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So I have this following exercise



Consider the curve given by the graph of the sine function $t rightarrow (t,sin(t))$. Determine the directed curvature at each point of this curve.



Supposing that directed curvatue and oriented curvature is the same thing there is a definition saying that oriented curvature is given by the identity



$$T'(t_0)=left(kappa_{alpha}(t_0) cdot parallelalpha'(t_0)parallel right)N(t_0)$$



If the turning angle of the curve $theta(t)$ is known, then $kappa_{alpha}(t)= displaystylefrac{theta'(t)}{parallel alpha'(t) parallel}$.



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    Help you do what? Do the calculations! But, be careful. In your definition, $N$ is not the principal normal vector, but rather a unit vector perpendicular to $T$ so that $T,N$ make a right-handed frame at each point.
    – Ted Shifrin
    Dec 12 '18 at 22:30










  • Okay so for a curve parametrized by arc length $parallel alpha'(t) parallel=1$ then $T'(t_0)=kappa_{alpha}(t_0)N(t_0)$ and $T'(t)=alpha''(t)$. Then I take the derivative $alpha'(t)=(1,cos (t))$ and $alpha''(t)=(0,-sin (t))$. Hereafter I am stuck.
    – Alim Teacher
    Dec 13 '18 at 9:27












  • I found out how to do it now
    – Alim Teacher
    Dec 13 '18 at 14:57
















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So I have this following exercise



Consider the curve given by the graph of the sine function $t rightarrow (t,sin(t))$. Determine the directed curvature at each point of this curve.



Supposing that directed curvatue and oriented curvature is the same thing there is a definition saying that oriented curvature is given by the identity



$$T'(t_0)=left(kappa_{alpha}(t_0) cdot parallelalpha'(t_0)parallel right)N(t_0)$$



If the turning angle of the curve $theta(t)$ is known, then $kappa_{alpha}(t)= displaystylefrac{theta'(t)}{parallel alpha'(t) parallel}$.



Can someone help me?










share|cite|improve this question


















  • 1




    Help you do what? Do the calculations! But, be careful. In your definition, $N$ is not the principal normal vector, but rather a unit vector perpendicular to $T$ so that $T,N$ make a right-handed frame at each point.
    – Ted Shifrin
    Dec 12 '18 at 22:30










  • Okay so for a curve parametrized by arc length $parallel alpha'(t) parallel=1$ then $T'(t_0)=kappa_{alpha}(t_0)N(t_0)$ and $T'(t)=alpha''(t)$. Then I take the derivative $alpha'(t)=(1,cos (t))$ and $alpha''(t)=(0,-sin (t))$. Hereafter I am stuck.
    – Alim Teacher
    Dec 13 '18 at 9:27












  • I found out how to do it now
    – Alim Teacher
    Dec 13 '18 at 14:57














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So I have this following exercise



Consider the curve given by the graph of the sine function $t rightarrow (t,sin(t))$. Determine the directed curvature at each point of this curve.



Supposing that directed curvatue and oriented curvature is the same thing there is a definition saying that oriented curvature is given by the identity



$$T'(t_0)=left(kappa_{alpha}(t_0) cdot parallelalpha'(t_0)parallel right)N(t_0)$$



If the turning angle of the curve $theta(t)$ is known, then $kappa_{alpha}(t)= displaystylefrac{theta'(t)}{parallel alpha'(t) parallel}$.



Can someone help me?










share|cite|improve this question













So I have this following exercise



Consider the curve given by the graph of the sine function $t rightarrow (t,sin(t))$. Determine the directed curvature at each point of this curve.



Supposing that directed curvatue and oriented curvature is the same thing there is a definition saying that oriented curvature is given by the identity



$$T'(t_0)=left(kappa_{alpha}(t_0) cdot parallelalpha'(t_0)parallel right)N(t_0)$$



If the turning angle of the curve $theta(t)$ is known, then $kappa_{alpha}(t)= displaystylefrac{theta'(t)}{parallel alpha'(t) parallel}$.



Can someone help me?







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    Help you do what? Do the calculations! But, be careful. In your definition, $N$ is not the principal normal vector, but rather a unit vector perpendicular to $T$ so that $T,N$ make a right-handed frame at each point.
    – Ted Shifrin
    Dec 12 '18 at 22:30










  • Okay so for a curve parametrized by arc length $parallel alpha'(t) parallel=1$ then $T'(t_0)=kappa_{alpha}(t_0)N(t_0)$ and $T'(t)=alpha''(t)$. Then I take the derivative $alpha'(t)=(1,cos (t))$ and $alpha''(t)=(0,-sin (t))$. Hereafter I am stuck.
    – Alim Teacher
    Dec 13 '18 at 9:27












  • I found out how to do it now
    – Alim Teacher
    Dec 13 '18 at 14:57














  • 1




    Help you do what? Do the calculations! But, be careful. In your definition, $N$ is not the principal normal vector, but rather a unit vector perpendicular to $T$ so that $T,N$ make a right-handed frame at each point.
    – Ted Shifrin
    Dec 12 '18 at 22:30










  • Okay so for a curve parametrized by arc length $parallel alpha'(t) parallel=1$ then $T'(t_0)=kappa_{alpha}(t_0)N(t_0)$ and $T'(t)=alpha''(t)$. Then I take the derivative $alpha'(t)=(1,cos (t))$ and $alpha''(t)=(0,-sin (t))$. Hereafter I am stuck.
    – Alim Teacher
    Dec 13 '18 at 9:27












  • I found out how to do it now
    – Alim Teacher
    Dec 13 '18 at 14:57








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1




Help you do what? Do the calculations! But, be careful. In your definition, $N$ is not the principal normal vector, but rather a unit vector perpendicular to $T$ so that $T,N$ make a right-handed frame at each point.
– Ted Shifrin
Dec 12 '18 at 22:30




Help you do what? Do the calculations! But, be careful. In your definition, $N$ is not the principal normal vector, but rather a unit vector perpendicular to $T$ so that $T,N$ make a right-handed frame at each point.
– Ted Shifrin
Dec 12 '18 at 22:30












Okay so for a curve parametrized by arc length $parallel alpha'(t) parallel=1$ then $T'(t_0)=kappa_{alpha}(t_0)N(t_0)$ and $T'(t)=alpha''(t)$. Then I take the derivative $alpha'(t)=(1,cos (t))$ and $alpha''(t)=(0,-sin (t))$. Hereafter I am stuck.
– Alim Teacher
Dec 13 '18 at 9:27






Okay so for a curve parametrized by arc length $parallel alpha'(t) parallel=1$ then $T'(t_0)=kappa_{alpha}(t_0)N(t_0)$ and $T'(t)=alpha''(t)$. Then I take the derivative $alpha'(t)=(1,cos (t))$ and $alpha''(t)=(0,-sin (t))$. Hereafter I am stuck.
– Alim Teacher
Dec 13 '18 at 9:27














I found out how to do it now
– Alim Teacher
Dec 13 '18 at 14:57




I found out how to do it now
– Alim Teacher
Dec 13 '18 at 14:57










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