Prove that $sin^2(x)/x=x-lfloor xrfloor$ has infinite solutions
I am trying to prove that
$sin^2(x)/x=x-lfloor xrfloor$ has infinite solutions.
I know that $sin^2(x) $is between [0,1] and $|x|>|sin(x)|$ therefore $x>sin^2x$
so the left side of the equation is between [0,1].
for right side of the equation I know that it between [0,1) but I don`t know how to continue from these info in order to show that it has infinite solutions.
Also, I am thinking the Intermediate value theorem might help to prove it, however I don`t know how to show more than one solution with this theorem.
Any suggestions?
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I am trying to prove that
$sin^2(x)/x=x-lfloor xrfloor$ has infinite solutions.
I know that $sin^2(x) $is between [0,1] and $|x|>|sin(x)|$ therefore $x>sin^2x$
so the left side of the equation is between [0,1].
for right side of the equation I know that it between [0,1) but I don`t know how to continue from these info in order to show that it has infinite solutions.
Also, I am thinking the Intermediate value theorem might help to prove it, however I don`t know how to show more than one solution with this theorem.
Any suggestions?
calculus
The intermediate value theorem is the right idea. Note that the left-hand side is $0$ at multiple of $pi$ and the right-hand side is $0$ at the integers.
– saulspatz
Dec 7 at 14:47
What you probably want to do is to show that you have at least one solution in an interval $(kpi,(k+1)pi)$
– Andrei
Dec 7 at 14:47
What is $[x]$ ?
– Rhys Hughes
Dec 7 at 14:50
2
@JohnD The intermediate value theorem guarantees you at least one solution, not only one.
– Federico
Dec 7 at 15:02
1
@AlexVong for [1.75] it returns 1.
– John D
Dec 7 at 15:25
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I am trying to prove that
$sin^2(x)/x=x-lfloor xrfloor$ has infinite solutions.
I know that $sin^2(x) $is between [0,1] and $|x|>|sin(x)|$ therefore $x>sin^2x$
so the left side of the equation is between [0,1].
for right side of the equation I know that it between [0,1) but I don`t know how to continue from these info in order to show that it has infinite solutions.
Also, I am thinking the Intermediate value theorem might help to prove it, however I don`t know how to show more than one solution with this theorem.
Any suggestions?
calculus
I am trying to prove that
$sin^2(x)/x=x-lfloor xrfloor$ has infinite solutions.
I know that $sin^2(x) $is between [0,1] and $|x|>|sin(x)|$ therefore $x>sin^2x$
so the left side of the equation is between [0,1].
for right side of the equation I know that it between [0,1) but I don`t know how to continue from these info in order to show that it has infinite solutions.
Also, I am thinking the Intermediate value theorem might help to prove it, however I don`t know how to show more than one solution with this theorem.
Any suggestions?
calculus
calculus
edited Dec 7 at 14:53
Andrei
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John D
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The intermediate value theorem is the right idea. Note that the left-hand side is $0$ at multiple of $pi$ and the right-hand side is $0$ at the integers.
– saulspatz
Dec 7 at 14:47
What you probably want to do is to show that you have at least one solution in an interval $(kpi,(k+1)pi)$
– Andrei
Dec 7 at 14:47
What is $[x]$ ?
– Rhys Hughes
Dec 7 at 14:50
2
@JohnD The intermediate value theorem guarantees you at least one solution, not only one.
– Federico
Dec 7 at 15:02
1
@AlexVong for [1.75] it returns 1.
– John D
Dec 7 at 15:25
|
show 4 more comments
The intermediate value theorem is the right idea. Note that the left-hand side is $0$ at multiple of $pi$ and the right-hand side is $0$ at the integers.
– saulspatz
Dec 7 at 14:47
What you probably want to do is to show that you have at least one solution in an interval $(kpi,(k+1)pi)$
– Andrei
Dec 7 at 14:47
What is $[x]$ ?
– Rhys Hughes
Dec 7 at 14:50
2
@JohnD The intermediate value theorem guarantees you at least one solution, not only one.
– Federico
Dec 7 at 15:02
1
@AlexVong for [1.75] it returns 1.
– John D
Dec 7 at 15:25
The intermediate value theorem is the right idea. Note that the left-hand side is $0$ at multiple of $pi$ and the right-hand side is $0$ at the integers.
– saulspatz
Dec 7 at 14:47
The intermediate value theorem is the right idea. Note that the left-hand side is $0$ at multiple of $pi$ and the right-hand side is $0$ at the integers.
– saulspatz
Dec 7 at 14:47
What you probably want to do is to show that you have at least one solution in an interval $(kpi,(k+1)pi)$
– Andrei
Dec 7 at 14:47
What you probably want to do is to show that you have at least one solution in an interval $(kpi,(k+1)pi)$
– Andrei
Dec 7 at 14:47
What is $[x]$ ?
– Rhys Hughes
Dec 7 at 14:50
What is $[x]$ ?
– Rhys Hughes
Dec 7 at 14:50
2
2
@JohnD The intermediate value theorem guarantees you at least one solution, not only one.
– Federico
Dec 7 at 15:02
@JohnD The intermediate value theorem guarantees you at least one solution, not only one.
– Federico
Dec 7 at 15:02
1
1
@AlexVong for [1.75] it returns 1.
– John D
Dec 7 at 15:25
@AlexVong for [1.75] it returns 1.
– John D
Dec 7 at 15:25
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It is not restrictive to look for solutions $>1$.
Consider
$$
f(x)=frac{sin^2x}{x}-(x-lfloor xrfloor)
$$
Then, for integer $n>1$,
$$
f(n)=frac{sin^2n}{n}>0
$$
and
$$
lim_{xto (n+1)^-}f(x)=frac{sin^2n}{n}-1<0
$$
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For positive integers $n$
On every interval $(n, n+1]$
$frac{sin^2 x}{x} - x + lfloor x rfloor$ is continuous.
$lim_limits{xto n^+} frac{sin^2 x}{x} - x + lfloor x rfloor > 0$
and
$frac{sin^2 (n+1)}{n} - n + lfloor n rfloor < 0$
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It is not restrictive to look for solutions $>1$.
Consider
$$
f(x)=frac{sin^2x}{x}-(x-lfloor xrfloor)
$$
Then, for integer $n>1$,
$$
f(n)=frac{sin^2n}{n}>0
$$
and
$$
lim_{xto (n+1)^-}f(x)=frac{sin^2n}{n}-1<0
$$
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It is not restrictive to look for solutions $>1$.
Consider
$$
f(x)=frac{sin^2x}{x}-(x-lfloor xrfloor)
$$
Then, for integer $n>1$,
$$
f(n)=frac{sin^2n}{n}>0
$$
and
$$
lim_{xto (n+1)^-}f(x)=frac{sin^2n}{n}-1<0
$$
add a comment |
It is not restrictive to look for solutions $>1$.
Consider
$$
f(x)=frac{sin^2x}{x}-(x-lfloor xrfloor)
$$
Then, for integer $n>1$,
$$
f(n)=frac{sin^2n}{n}>0
$$
and
$$
lim_{xto (n+1)^-}f(x)=frac{sin^2n}{n}-1<0
$$
It is not restrictive to look for solutions $>1$.
Consider
$$
f(x)=frac{sin^2x}{x}-(x-lfloor xrfloor)
$$
Then, for integer $n>1$,
$$
f(n)=frac{sin^2n}{n}>0
$$
and
$$
lim_{xto (n+1)^-}f(x)=frac{sin^2n}{n}-1<0
$$
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For positive integers $n$
On every interval $(n, n+1]$
$frac{sin^2 x}{x} - x + lfloor x rfloor$ is continuous.
$lim_limits{xto n^+} frac{sin^2 x}{x} - x + lfloor x rfloor > 0$
and
$frac{sin^2 (n+1)}{n} - n + lfloor n rfloor < 0$
add a comment |
For positive integers $n$
On every interval $(n, n+1]$
$frac{sin^2 x}{x} - x + lfloor x rfloor$ is continuous.
$lim_limits{xto n^+} frac{sin^2 x}{x} - x + lfloor x rfloor > 0$
and
$frac{sin^2 (n+1)}{n} - n + lfloor n rfloor < 0$
add a comment |
For positive integers $n$
On every interval $(n, n+1]$
$frac{sin^2 x}{x} - x + lfloor x rfloor$ is continuous.
$lim_limits{xto n^+} frac{sin^2 x}{x} - x + lfloor x rfloor > 0$
and
$frac{sin^2 (n+1)}{n} - n + lfloor n rfloor < 0$
For positive integers $n$
On every interval $(n, n+1]$
$frac{sin^2 x}{x} - x + lfloor x rfloor$ is continuous.
$lim_limits{xto n^+} frac{sin^2 x}{x} - x + lfloor x rfloor > 0$
and
$frac{sin^2 (n+1)}{n} - n + lfloor n rfloor < 0$
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The intermediate value theorem is the right idea. Note that the left-hand side is $0$ at multiple of $pi$ and the right-hand side is $0$ at the integers.
– saulspatz
Dec 7 at 14:47
What you probably want to do is to show that you have at least one solution in an interval $(kpi,(k+1)pi)$
– Andrei
Dec 7 at 14:47
What is $[x]$ ?
– Rhys Hughes
Dec 7 at 14:50
2
@JohnD The intermediate value theorem guarantees you at least one solution, not only one.
– Federico
Dec 7 at 15:02
1
@AlexVong for [1.75] it returns 1.
– John D
Dec 7 at 15:25