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In a connected simple graph $G$ with $30$ edges, what is the maximum number of vertices possible?




According to me, the answer is 31, obtained in a star structured graph. But the solution manual claims that the answer should be $9$ .



Am I correct or what am I doing wrong? Please let me know.



Thanks in advance!










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    In a connected simple graph $G$ with $30$ edges, what is the maximum number of vertices possible?




    According to me, the answer is 31, obtained in a star structured graph. But the solution manual claims that the answer should be $9$ .



    Am I correct or what am I doing wrong? Please let me know.



    Thanks in advance!










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      In a connected simple graph $G$ with $30$ edges, what is the maximum number of vertices possible?




      According to me, the answer is 31, obtained in a star structured graph. But the solution manual claims that the answer should be $9$ .



      Am I correct or what am I doing wrong? Please let me know.



      Thanks in advance!










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      In a connected simple graph $G$ with $30$ edges, what is the maximum number of vertices possible?




      According to me, the answer is 31, obtained in a star structured graph. But the solution manual claims that the answer should be $9$ .



      Am I correct or what am I doing wrong? Please let me know.



      Thanks in advance!







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          Is the question asking instead for the minimum number of vertices for a simple graph with 30 edges? A simple graph of $n$ vertices has at most $frac{n(n-1)}{2}$ undirected edges...that gives 36 edges for $n=9$, but only 28 edges for $n=8$.






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            You can ask what is a minimum number of vertices that graph is not connected and with 30 edges.



            Then exsist partition $(A,B)$ with no edges between them. So we have $${|A|choose 2}+{|B|choose 2} geq 30$$



            where $n=|A|+|B|$ the number you are looking for.





            Let $x=|A|$ then $|B|=n-x$ and $0<x<n$. So $$30leq {x^2 +(n-x)^2-nover 2}leq {n-1choose 2}+{1choose 2}$$
            and thus $$30leq {n-1choose 2}implies n_{min}= 9$$






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              Is the question asking instead for the minimum number of vertices for a simple graph with 30 edges? A simple graph of $n$ vertices has at most $frac{n(n-1)}{2}$ undirected edges...that gives 36 edges for $n=9$, but only 28 edges for $n=8$.






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                Is the question asking instead for the minimum number of vertices for a simple graph with 30 edges? A simple graph of $n$ vertices has at most $frac{n(n-1)}{2}$ undirected edges...that gives 36 edges for $n=9$, but only 28 edges for $n=8$.






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                  Is the question asking instead for the minimum number of vertices for a simple graph with 30 edges? A simple graph of $n$ vertices has at most $frac{n(n-1)}{2}$ undirected edges...that gives 36 edges for $n=9$, but only 28 edges for $n=8$.






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                  Is the question asking instead for the minimum number of vertices for a simple graph with 30 edges? A simple graph of $n$ vertices has at most $frac{n(n-1)}{2}$ undirected edges...that gives 36 edges for $n=9$, but only 28 edges for $n=8$.







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                      Idea:



                      You can ask what is a minimum number of vertices that graph is not connected and with 30 edges.



                      Then exsist partition $(A,B)$ with no edges between them. So we have $${|A|choose 2}+{|B|choose 2} geq 30$$



                      where $n=|A|+|B|$ the number you are looking for.





                      Let $x=|A|$ then $|B|=n-x$ and $0<x<n$. So $$30leq {x^2 +(n-x)^2-nover 2}leq {n-1choose 2}+{1choose 2}$$
                      and thus $$30leq {n-1choose 2}implies n_{min}= 9$$






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                        Idea:



                        You can ask what is a minimum number of vertices that graph is not connected and with 30 edges.



                        Then exsist partition $(A,B)$ with no edges between them. So we have $${|A|choose 2}+{|B|choose 2} geq 30$$



                        where $n=|A|+|B|$ the number you are looking for.





                        Let $x=|A|$ then $|B|=n-x$ and $0<x<n$. So $$30leq {x^2 +(n-x)^2-nover 2}leq {n-1choose 2}+{1choose 2}$$
                        and thus $$30leq {n-1choose 2}implies n_{min}= 9$$






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                          Idea:



                          You can ask what is a minimum number of vertices that graph is not connected and with 30 edges.



                          Then exsist partition $(A,B)$ with no edges between them. So we have $${|A|choose 2}+{|B|choose 2} geq 30$$



                          where $n=|A|+|B|$ the number you are looking for.





                          Let $x=|A|$ then $|B|=n-x$ and $0<x<n$. So $$30leq {x^2 +(n-x)^2-nover 2}leq {n-1choose 2}+{1choose 2}$$
                          and thus $$30leq {n-1choose 2}implies n_{min}= 9$$






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                          Idea:



                          You can ask what is a minimum number of vertices that graph is not connected and with 30 edges.



                          Then exsist partition $(A,B)$ with no edges between them. So we have $${|A|choose 2}+{|B|choose 2} geq 30$$



                          where $n=|A|+|B|$ the number you are looking for.





                          Let $x=|A|$ then $|B|=n-x$ and $0<x<n$. So $$30leq {x^2 +(n-x)^2-nover 2}leq {n-1choose 2}+{1choose 2}$$
                          and thus $$30leq {n-1choose 2}implies n_{min}= 9$$







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