About parabolic subgroup of a Weyl group
$begingroup$
Let $W$ be a Weyl group/Coxeter group. Let $Phi$ be the associated root system, fix a positive root system $Phi^+$ and let
$Delta$ be the set of simple roots.
Let $W_I$ be the parabolic subgroup of $W$ generated by $Isubseteq Delta$.
Does $W_I=W_Jimplies I=J$?
Does $sin W$ with $sneq 1$, $s^2=1implies s=s_alpha$ for some root $alpha$?
abstract-algebra group-theory root-systems coxeter-groups weyl-group
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Let $W$ be a Weyl group/Coxeter group. Let $Phi$ be the associated root system, fix a positive root system $Phi^+$ and let
$Delta$ be the set of simple roots.
Let $W_I$ be the parabolic subgroup of $W$ generated by $Isubseteq Delta$.
Does $W_I=W_Jimplies I=J$?
Does $sin W$ with $sneq 1$, $s^2=1implies s=s_alpha$ for some root $alpha$?
abstract-algebra group-theory root-systems coxeter-groups weyl-group
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
What are your thoughts? What properties of Weyl groups do you know which might help? Also, in question 2 I assume you want to exclude the trivial counterexample $s=id$.
$endgroup$
– Torsten Schoeneberg
Dec 29 '18 at 4:51
1
$begingroup$
My thought is that if 2. is correct. Then I can say the set of order 2 elements in $W_I$ is the set of order 2 elements in $W_J$. Then ${s_alpha:alphainPhi_I}={s_alpha:alphainPhi_J}$. This implies $Phi_I=Phi_J$ and then $I=J$.
$endgroup$
– James Cheung
Dec 29 '18 at 17:55
1
$begingroup$
$s=-id$ is an element of the Weyl group for many root systems (e.g. all of type $B_n, C_n$, and all exceptional ones except $E_6$), and is a counterexample to 2. as soon as the rank is $ge 2$.
$endgroup$
– Torsten Schoeneberg
Jan 2 at 1:57
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Let $W$ be a Weyl group/Coxeter group. Let $Phi$ be the associated root system, fix a positive root system $Phi^+$ and let
$Delta$ be the set of simple roots.
Let $W_I$ be the parabolic subgroup of $W$ generated by $Isubseteq Delta$.
Does $W_I=W_Jimplies I=J$?
Does $sin W$ with $sneq 1$, $s^2=1implies s=s_alpha$ for some root $alpha$?
abstract-algebra group-theory root-systems coxeter-groups weyl-group
$endgroup$
Let $W$ be a Weyl group/Coxeter group. Let $Phi$ be the associated root system, fix a positive root system $Phi^+$ and let
$Delta$ be the set of simple roots.
Let $W_I$ be the parabolic subgroup of $W$ generated by $Isubseteq Delta$.
Does $W_I=W_Jimplies I=J$?
Does $sin W$ with $sneq 1$, $s^2=1implies s=s_alpha$ for some root $alpha$?
abstract-algebra group-theory root-systems coxeter-groups weyl-group
abstract-algebra group-theory root-systems coxeter-groups weyl-group
edited Jan 3 at 14:42
user593746
asked Dec 29 '18 at 4:44
James CheungJames Cheung
1184
1184
$begingroup$
What are your thoughts? What properties of Weyl groups do you know which might help? Also, in question 2 I assume you want to exclude the trivial counterexample $s=id$.
$endgroup$
– Torsten Schoeneberg
Dec 29 '18 at 4:51
1
$begingroup$
My thought is that if 2. is correct. Then I can say the set of order 2 elements in $W_I$ is the set of order 2 elements in $W_J$. Then ${s_alpha:alphainPhi_I}={s_alpha:alphainPhi_J}$. This implies $Phi_I=Phi_J$ and then $I=J$.
$endgroup$
– James Cheung
Dec 29 '18 at 17:55
1
$begingroup$
$s=-id$ is an element of the Weyl group for many root systems (e.g. all of type $B_n, C_n$, and all exceptional ones except $E_6$), and is a counterexample to 2. as soon as the rank is $ge 2$.
$endgroup$
– Torsten Schoeneberg
Jan 2 at 1:57
add a comment |
$begingroup$
What are your thoughts? What properties of Weyl groups do you know which might help? Also, in question 2 I assume you want to exclude the trivial counterexample $s=id$.
$endgroup$
– Torsten Schoeneberg
Dec 29 '18 at 4:51
1
$begingroup$
My thought is that if 2. is correct. Then I can say the set of order 2 elements in $W_I$ is the set of order 2 elements in $W_J$. Then ${s_alpha:alphainPhi_I}={s_alpha:alphainPhi_J}$. This implies $Phi_I=Phi_J$ and then $I=J$.
$endgroup$
– James Cheung
Dec 29 '18 at 17:55
1
$begingroup$
$s=-id$ is an element of the Weyl group for many root systems (e.g. all of type $B_n, C_n$, and all exceptional ones except $E_6$), and is a counterexample to 2. as soon as the rank is $ge 2$.
$endgroup$
– Torsten Schoeneberg
Jan 2 at 1:57
$begingroup$
What are your thoughts? What properties of Weyl groups do you know which might help? Also, in question 2 I assume you want to exclude the trivial counterexample $s=id$.
$endgroup$
– Torsten Schoeneberg
Dec 29 '18 at 4:51
$begingroup$
What are your thoughts? What properties of Weyl groups do you know which might help? Also, in question 2 I assume you want to exclude the trivial counterexample $s=id$.
$endgroup$
– Torsten Schoeneberg
Dec 29 '18 at 4:51
1
1
$begingroup$
My thought is that if 2. is correct. Then I can say the set of order 2 elements in $W_I$ is the set of order 2 elements in $W_J$. Then ${s_alpha:alphainPhi_I}={s_alpha:alphainPhi_J}$. This implies $Phi_I=Phi_J$ and then $I=J$.
$endgroup$
– James Cheung
Dec 29 '18 at 17:55
$begingroup$
My thought is that if 2. is correct. Then I can say the set of order 2 elements in $W_I$ is the set of order 2 elements in $W_J$. Then ${s_alpha:alphainPhi_I}={s_alpha:alphainPhi_J}$. This implies $Phi_I=Phi_J$ and then $I=J$.
$endgroup$
– James Cheung
Dec 29 '18 at 17:55
1
1
$begingroup$
$s=-id$ is an element of the Weyl group for many root systems (e.g. all of type $B_n, C_n$, and all exceptional ones except $E_6$), and is a counterexample to 2. as soon as the rank is $ge 2$.
$endgroup$
– Torsten Schoeneberg
Jan 2 at 1:57
$begingroup$
$s=-id$ is an element of the Weyl group for many root systems (e.g. all of type $B_n, C_n$, and all exceptional ones except $E_6$), and is a counterexample to 2. as soon as the rank is $ge 2$.
$endgroup$
– Torsten Schoeneberg
Jan 2 at 1:57
add a comment |
0
active
oldest
votes
Your Answer
StackExchange.ifUsing("editor", function () {
return StackExchange.using("mathjaxEditing", function () {
StackExchange.MarkdownEditor.creationCallbacks.add(function (editor, postfix) {
StackExchange.mathjaxEditing.prepareWmdForMathJax(editor, postfix, [["$", "$"], ["\\(","\\)"]]);
});
});
}, "mathjax-editing");
StackExchange.ready(function() {
var channelOptions = {
tags: "".split(" "),
id: "69"
};
initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);
StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function() {
// Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled) {
StackExchange.using("snippets", function() {
createEditor();
});
}
else {
createEditor();
}
});
function createEditor() {
StackExchange.prepareEditor({
heartbeatType: 'answer',
autoActivateHeartbeat: false,
convertImagesToLinks: true,
noModals: true,
showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
reputationToPostImages: 10,
bindNavPrevention: true,
postfix: "",
imageUploader: {
brandingHtml: "Powered by u003ca class="icon-imgur-white" href="https://imgur.com/"u003eu003c/au003e",
contentPolicyHtml: "User contributions licensed under u003ca href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"u003ecc by-sa 3.0 with attribution requiredu003c/au003e u003ca href="https://stackoverflow.com/legal/content-policy"u003e(content policy)u003c/au003e",
allowUrls: true
},
noCode: true, onDemand: true,
discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
});
}
});
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
StackExchange.ready(
function () {
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f3055536%2fabout-parabolic-subgroup-of-a-weyl-group%23new-answer', 'question_page');
}
);
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
0
active
oldest
votes
0
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
Thanks for contributing an answer to Mathematics Stack Exchange!
- Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!
But avoid …
- Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.
- Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.
Use MathJax to format equations. MathJax reference.
To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
StackExchange.ready(
function () {
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f3055536%2fabout-parabolic-subgroup-of-a-weyl-group%23new-answer', 'question_page');
}
);
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
$begingroup$
What are your thoughts? What properties of Weyl groups do you know which might help? Also, in question 2 I assume you want to exclude the trivial counterexample $s=id$.
$endgroup$
– Torsten Schoeneberg
Dec 29 '18 at 4:51
1
$begingroup$
My thought is that if 2. is correct. Then I can say the set of order 2 elements in $W_I$ is the set of order 2 elements in $W_J$. Then ${s_alpha:alphainPhi_I}={s_alpha:alphainPhi_J}$. This implies $Phi_I=Phi_J$ and then $I=J$.
$endgroup$
– James Cheung
Dec 29 '18 at 17:55
1
$begingroup$
$s=-id$ is an element of the Weyl group for many root systems (e.g. all of type $B_n, C_n$, and all exceptional ones except $E_6$), and is a counterexample to 2. as soon as the rank is $ge 2$.
$endgroup$
– Torsten Schoeneberg
Jan 2 at 1:57