How to resolve a circular reference / livelock












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I seem to have myself an equation that is what MS Excel refers to as a circular reference; that I believe is also called a "Livelock".



I have composed the formula:



A = M + D - R - (0.05(A - 250000)+2500)



Where:



A = Offer Price
M = Mortgage
D = Deposit
R = Renovation costs


Is it even possible to resolve A?



Background



I'm trying to calculate an offer price to make on a property, based on certain costs, including Stamp Duty Land Tax (SDLT), but SDLT requires the offer price.



I'm afraid my GCSE maths was so long ago, I can't think of a way that I might achieve this, or what it might be called in mathematics (unless it's a simultaneous equation (hence tag)).



TIA.










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    Expand the right-hand side, move all the terms with A to the left side and divide through by the resulting coefficient.
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    Circular references of formulas are not locks of any kind. They generally just lead to simplification of formulas.
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    – Matt Samuel
    Jan 6 at 21:14
















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I seem to have myself an equation that is what MS Excel refers to as a circular reference; that I believe is also called a "Livelock".



I have composed the formula:



A = M + D - R - (0.05(A - 250000)+2500)



Where:



A = Offer Price
M = Mortgage
D = Deposit
R = Renovation costs


Is it even possible to resolve A?



Background



I'm trying to calculate an offer price to make on a property, based on certain costs, including Stamp Duty Land Tax (SDLT), but SDLT requires the offer price.



I'm afraid my GCSE maths was so long ago, I can't think of a way that I might achieve this, or what it might be called in mathematics (unless it's a simultaneous equation (hence tag)).



TIA.










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    Expand the right-hand side, move all the terms with A to the left side and divide through by the resulting coefficient.
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    – amd
    Jan 6 at 20:32










  • $begingroup$
    Circular references of formulas are not locks of any kind. They generally just lead to simplification of formulas.
    $endgroup$
    – Matt Samuel
    Jan 6 at 21:14














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I seem to have myself an equation that is what MS Excel refers to as a circular reference; that I believe is also called a "Livelock".



I have composed the formula:



A = M + D - R - (0.05(A - 250000)+2500)



Where:



A = Offer Price
M = Mortgage
D = Deposit
R = Renovation costs


Is it even possible to resolve A?



Background



I'm trying to calculate an offer price to make on a property, based on certain costs, including Stamp Duty Land Tax (SDLT), but SDLT requires the offer price.



I'm afraid my GCSE maths was so long ago, I can't think of a way that I might achieve this, or what it might be called in mathematics (unless it's a simultaneous equation (hence tag)).



TIA.










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I seem to have myself an equation that is what MS Excel refers to as a circular reference; that I believe is also called a "Livelock".



I have composed the formula:



A = M + D - R - (0.05(A - 250000)+2500)



Where:



A = Offer Price
M = Mortgage
D = Deposit
R = Renovation costs


Is it even possible to resolve A?



Background



I'm trying to calculate an offer price to make on a property, based on certain costs, including Stamp Duty Land Tax (SDLT), but SDLT requires the offer price.



I'm afraid my GCSE maths was so long ago, I can't think of a way that I might achieve this, or what it might be called in mathematics (unless it's a simultaneous equation (hence tag)).



TIA.







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  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Expand the right-hand side, move all the terms with A to the left side and divide through by the resulting coefficient.
    $endgroup$
    – amd
    Jan 6 at 20:32










  • $begingroup$
    Circular references of formulas are not locks of any kind. They generally just lead to simplification of formulas.
    $endgroup$
    – Matt Samuel
    Jan 6 at 21:14














  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Expand the right-hand side, move all the terms with A to the left side and divide through by the resulting coefficient.
    $endgroup$
    – amd
    Jan 6 at 20:32










  • $begingroup$
    Circular references of formulas are not locks of any kind. They generally just lead to simplification of formulas.
    $endgroup$
    – Matt Samuel
    Jan 6 at 21:14








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$begingroup$
Expand the right-hand side, move all the terms with A to the left side and divide through by the resulting coefficient.
$endgroup$
– amd
Jan 6 at 20:32




$begingroup$
Expand the right-hand side, move all the terms with A to the left side and divide through by the resulting coefficient.
$endgroup$
– amd
Jan 6 at 20:32












$begingroup$
Circular references of formulas are not locks of any kind. They generally just lead to simplification of formulas.
$endgroup$
– Matt Samuel
Jan 6 at 21:14




$begingroup$
Circular references of formulas are not locks of any kind. They generally just lead to simplification of formulas.
$endgroup$
– Matt Samuel
Jan 6 at 21:14










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This is elementary algebra; we treat everything else as a constant and work to isolate $A$. First, we expand out that expression on the right using the distributive property:
$$ A = M+D-R - (0.05(A-250000)+2500)$$
$$ A = M+D-R - 0.05(A-250000)-2500$$
$$ A = M+D-R - 0.05A +0.05cdot 250000-2500$$
Next, we move all the multiples of $A$ over to one side, and apply the distributive property in reverse. I'll also consolidate the constant terms here:
$$A + 0.05A = M+D-R + 12500-2500$$
$$1.05cdot A = M+D-R + 10000$$
Finally, divide by the coefficient of $A$:
$$A = frac1{1.05}(M+D-R + 10000)$$






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    Thank you @jmerry. I guess like most things in life, it's simple when you know how.
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    – woter324
    Jan 6 at 21:16











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This is elementary algebra; we treat everything else as a constant and work to isolate $A$. First, we expand out that expression on the right using the distributive property:
$$ A = M+D-R - (0.05(A-250000)+2500)$$
$$ A = M+D-R - 0.05(A-250000)-2500$$
$$ A = M+D-R - 0.05A +0.05cdot 250000-2500$$
Next, we move all the multiples of $A$ over to one side, and apply the distributive property in reverse. I'll also consolidate the constant terms here:
$$A + 0.05A = M+D-R + 12500-2500$$
$$1.05cdot A = M+D-R + 10000$$
Finally, divide by the coefficient of $A$:
$$A = frac1{1.05}(M+D-R + 10000)$$






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    Thank you @jmerry. I guess like most things in life, it's simple when you know how.
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$begingroup$

This is elementary algebra; we treat everything else as a constant and work to isolate $A$. First, we expand out that expression on the right using the distributive property:
$$ A = M+D-R - (0.05(A-250000)+2500)$$
$$ A = M+D-R - 0.05(A-250000)-2500$$
$$ A = M+D-R - 0.05A +0.05cdot 250000-2500$$
Next, we move all the multiples of $A$ over to one side, and apply the distributive property in reverse. I'll also consolidate the constant terms here:
$$A + 0.05A = M+D-R + 12500-2500$$
$$1.05cdot A = M+D-R + 10000$$
Finally, divide by the coefficient of $A$:
$$A = frac1{1.05}(M+D-R + 10000)$$






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    Thank you @jmerry. I guess like most things in life, it's simple when you know how.
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    – woter324
    Jan 6 at 21:16














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$begingroup$

This is elementary algebra; we treat everything else as a constant and work to isolate $A$. First, we expand out that expression on the right using the distributive property:
$$ A = M+D-R - (0.05(A-250000)+2500)$$
$$ A = M+D-R - 0.05(A-250000)-2500$$
$$ A = M+D-R - 0.05A +0.05cdot 250000-2500$$
Next, we move all the multiples of $A$ over to one side, and apply the distributive property in reverse. I'll also consolidate the constant terms here:
$$A + 0.05A = M+D-R + 12500-2500$$
$$1.05cdot A = M+D-R + 10000$$
Finally, divide by the coefficient of $A$:
$$A = frac1{1.05}(M+D-R + 10000)$$






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This is elementary algebra; we treat everything else as a constant and work to isolate $A$. First, we expand out that expression on the right using the distributive property:
$$ A = M+D-R - (0.05(A-250000)+2500)$$
$$ A = M+D-R - 0.05(A-250000)-2500$$
$$ A = M+D-R - 0.05A +0.05cdot 250000-2500$$
Next, we move all the multiples of $A$ over to one side, and apply the distributive property in reverse. I'll also consolidate the constant terms here:
$$A + 0.05A = M+D-R + 12500-2500$$
$$1.05cdot A = M+D-R + 10000$$
Finally, divide by the coefficient of $A$:
$$A = frac1{1.05}(M+D-R + 10000)$$







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    Thank you @jmerry. I guess like most things in life, it's simple when you know how.
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    Thank you @jmerry. I guess like most things in life, it's simple when you know how.
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Thank you @jmerry. I guess like most things in life, it's simple when you know how.
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$begingroup$
Thank you @jmerry. I guess like most things in life, it's simple when you know how.
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