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I have an assignment on permutations and combinations topics. In that there is a question-
The number of interior angles of a regular polygon is $150^circ$ each. The number of diagonals of the polygon is _____.



Attempt



I don't know about any thing about the P&C method for diagonals. So I found the side as per the formula $$(n-2)(360^circ)=(theta)n$$ where $n$ is the number of side and $theta$ as interior angle.



But the main problem came to be the diagonal part because I was not able to understand the logic given on platforms like MSE itself. (Maybe it is due to language problem because I am still learning English language.)



But I tried to count the polygon diagonal one by one to generate some pattern which may be useful. So I observed this-



In quads, if we start making diagonals then for first it will be $1$, then again $1$ and $0$ and $0$.



In pents, the similar process gave $2$ then again $2$ then $1$ and then $0$, and $0$.



In hexes, $3$ then $3$ then $2$ then $1$ then $0$ and again $0$.



Also, I observed that for the last two vertices it came to be $0$ always.



So observing this I first did in same way for hepts and after doing this I checked the answers for above cases in that formula $$frac{n(n-3)}{2}$$. (Though I didn't understand how it was formed. And to my surprise, it came to be same. I even checked for $12, 13, 50, 40 ldots$ It all gave the same value as that formula.




Now my doubt is What I observed is right but how? Also I wrote it in terms of $$2(n-3)+(n-4)+...+1$$ to give $$frac{n(n-3)}{2}$$.











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    I have an assignment on permutations and combinations topics. In that there is a question-
    The number of interior angles of a regular polygon is $150^circ$ each. The number of diagonals of the polygon is _____.



    Attempt



    I don't know about any thing about the P&C method for diagonals. So I found the side as per the formula $$(n-2)(360^circ)=(theta)n$$ where $n$ is the number of side and $theta$ as interior angle.



    But the main problem came to be the diagonal part because I was not able to understand the logic given on platforms like MSE itself. (Maybe it is due to language problem because I am still learning English language.)



    But I tried to count the polygon diagonal one by one to generate some pattern which may be useful. So I observed this-



    In quads, if we start making diagonals then for first it will be $1$, then again $1$ and $0$ and $0$.



    In pents, the similar process gave $2$ then again $2$ then $1$ and then $0$, and $0$.



    In hexes, $3$ then $3$ then $2$ then $1$ then $0$ and again $0$.



    Also, I observed that for the last two vertices it came to be $0$ always.



    So observing this I first did in same way for hepts and after doing this I checked the answers for above cases in that formula $$frac{n(n-3)}{2}$$. (Though I didn't understand how it was formed. And to my surprise, it came to be same. I even checked for $12, 13, 50, 40 ldots$ It all gave the same value as that formula.




    Now my doubt is What I observed is right but how? Also I wrote it in terms of $$2(n-3)+(n-4)+...+1$$ to give $$frac{n(n-3)}{2}$$.











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      I have an assignment on permutations and combinations topics. In that there is a question-
      The number of interior angles of a regular polygon is $150^circ$ each. The number of diagonals of the polygon is _____.



      Attempt



      I don't know about any thing about the P&C method for diagonals. So I found the side as per the formula $$(n-2)(360^circ)=(theta)n$$ where $n$ is the number of side and $theta$ as interior angle.



      But the main problem came to be the diagonal part because I was not able to understand the logic given on platforms like MSE itself. (Maybe it is due to language problem because I am still learning English language.)



      But I tried to count the polygon diagonal one by one to generate some pattern which may be useful. So I observed this-



      In quads, if we start making diagonals then for first it will be $1$, then again $1$ and $0$ and $0$.



      In pents, the similar process gave $2$ then again $2$ then $1$ and then $0$, and $0$.



      In hexes, $3$ then $3$ then $2$ then $1$ then $0$ and again $0$.



      Also, I observed that for the last two vertices it came to be $0$ always.



      So observing this I first did in same way for hepts and after doing this I checked the answers for above cases in that formula $$frac{n(n-3)}{2}$$. (Though I didn't understand how it was formed. And to my surprise, it came to be same. I even checked for $12, 13, 50, 40 ldots$ It all gave the same value as that formula.




      Now my doubt is What I observed is right but how? Also I wrote it in terms of $$2(n-3)+(n-4)+...+1$$ to give $$frac{n(n-3)}{2}$$.











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      I have an assignment on permutations and combinations topics. In that there is a question-
      The number of interior angles of a regular polygon is $150^circ$ each. The number of diagonals of the polygon is _____.



      Attempt



      I don't know about any thing about the P&C method for diagonals. So I found the side as per the formula $$(n-2)(360^circ)=(theta)n$$ where $n$ is the number of side and $theta$ as interior angle.



      But the main problem came to be the diagonal part because I was not able to understand the logic given on platforms like MSE itself. (Maybe it is due to language problem because I am still learning English language.)



      But I tried to count the polygon diagonal one by one to generate some pattern which may be useful. So I observed this-



      In quads, if we start making diagonals then for first it will be $1$, then again $1$ and $0$ and $0$.



      In pents, the similar process gave $2$ then again $2$ then $1$ and then $0$, and $0$.



      In hexes, $3$ then $3$ then $2$ then $1$ then $0$ and again $0$.



      Also, I observed that for the last two vertices it came to be $0$ always.



      So observing this I first did in same way for hepts and after doing this I checked the answers for above cases in that formula $$frac{n(n-3)}{2}$$. (Though I didn't understand how it was formed. And to my surprise, it came to be same. I even checked for $12, 13, 50, 40 ldots$ It all gave the same value as that formula.




      Now my doubt is What I observed is right but how? Also I wrote it in terms of $$2(n-3)+(n-4)+...+1$$ to give $$frac{n(n-3)}{2}$$.








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          You can use inclusion-exclusion principle. Let $A_1A_2...A_n$ be the $n$-gon. $A_1$ can connect with $n-1$ vertices, $A_2$ can connect with $n-2$ vertices (note connection with $A_1$ was already considered) and so on $A_{n-1}$ can connect with only $1$ vertex $A_n$. Hence:
          $$(n-1)+(n-2)+cdots +1=frac{n(n-1)}{2}.$$
          Now to find the number of diagonals, we must exclude the lines between the neighboring vertices, which is $n$:
          $$frac{n(n-1)}{2}-n=frac{n(n-3)}{2},$$
          which is pretty much the same as mlerma54's answer.






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            The number of line segments determined by $n$ points in the plane is $n$ choose 2, i.e., $binom{n}{2} = frac{n(n-1)}{2}$. But in a polygon, $n$ of those segments will be sides, so subtract it to get the number of diagonals: $frac{n(n-1)}{2} - n = frac{n(n-3)}{2}$.






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              The classic formula for the number of diagonals of an $n$ sided polygon is $frac {n(n-3)}2$ as you say. The way to see it is you have $n$ choices for the first end of a diagonal, then $n-3$ choices for the other end because you can't use the original vertex or a neighboring one, but have counted each diagonal twice so divide by $2$.



              You can write your sum $$2(n-3)+(n-4)+(n-5)+ldots+1=2(n-3)+sum_{i=1}^{n-4}i\=2(n-3)+frac 12(n-4)(n-3)\=frac 12(n-3)(4+(n-4))\=frac 12n(n-3)$$






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                You can also use the Handshake Lemma from graph theory. Let $G(V,E)$ be a graph on $n$ vertices, where the vertices form a regular $n$-gon and the edges are the diagonals of the $n$-gon. Then, prove that each vertex of $G$ has degree $n-3$. By the Handshake Lemma, $G$ has
                $$|E|=frac{1}{2},sum_{vin V},deg(v)=frac{1}{2},n,(n-3)=frac{n(n-3)}{2}$$ edges.






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                  You can use inclusion-exclusion principle. Let $A_1A_2...A_n$ be the $n$-gon. $A_1$ can connect with $n-1$ vertices, $A_2$ can connect with $n-2$ vertices (note connection with $A_1$ was already considered) and so on $A_{n-1}$ can connect with only $1$ vertex $A_n$. Hence:
                  $$(n-1)+(n-2)+cdots +1=frac{n(n-1)}{2}.$$
                  Now to find the number of diagonals, we must exclude the lines between the neighboring vertices, which is $n$:
                  $$frac{n(n-1)}{2}-n=frac{n(n-3)}{2},$$
                  which is pretty much the same as mlerma54's answer.






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                    You can use inclusion-exclusion principle. Let $A_1A_2...A_n$ be the $n$-gon. $A_1$ can connect with $n-1$ vertices, $A_2$ can connect with $n-2$ vertices (note connection with $A_1$ was already considered) and so on $A_{n-1}$ can connect with only $1$ vertex $A_n$. Hence:
                    $$(n-1)+(n-2)+cdots +1=frac{n(n-1)}{2}.$$
                    Now to find the number of diagonals, we must exclude the lines between the neighboring vertices, which is $n$:
                    $$frac{n(n-1)}{2}-n=frac{n(n-3)}{2},$$
                    which is pretty much the same as mlerma54's answer.






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                      You can use inclusion-exclusion principle. Let $A_1A_2...A_n$ be the $n$-gon. $A_1$ can connect with $n-1$ vertices, $A_2$ can connect with $n-2$ vertices (note connection with $A_1$ was already considered) and so on $A_{n-1}$ can connect with only $1$ vertex $A_n$. Hence:
                      $$(n-1)+(n-2)+cdots +1=frac{n(n-1)}{2}.$$
                      Now to find the number of diagonals, we must exclude the lines between the neighboring vertices, which is $n$:
                      $$frac{n(n-1)}{2}-n=frac{n(n-3)}{2},$$
                      which is pretty much the same as mlerma54's answer.






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                      You can use inclusion-exclusion principle. Let $A_1A_2...A_n$ be the $n$-gon. $A_1$ can connect with $n-1$ vertices, $A_2$ can connect with $n-2$ vertices (note connection with $A_1$ was already considered) and so on $A_{n-1}$ can connect with only $1$ vertex $A_n$. Hence:
                      $$(n-1)+(n-2)+cdots +1=frac{n(n-1)}{2}.$$
                      Now to find the number of diagonals, we must exclude the lines between the neighboring vertices, which is $n$:
                      $$frac{n(n-1)}{2}-n=frac{n(n-3)}{2},$$
                      which is pretty much the same as mlerma54's answer.







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                          The number of line segments determined by $n$ points in the plane is $n$ choose 2, i.e., $binom{n}{2} = frac{n(n-1)}{2}$. But in a polygon, $n$ of those segments will be sides, so subtract it to get the number of diagonals: $frac{n(n-1)}{2} - n = frac{n(n-3)}{2}$.






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                            The number of line segments determined by $n$ points in the plane is $n$ choose 2, i.e., $binom{n}{2} = frac{n(n-1)}{2}$. But in a polygon, $n$ of those segments will be sides, so subtract it to get the number of diagonals: $frac{n(n-1)}{2} - n = frac{n(n-3)}{2}$.






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                              The number of line segments determined by $n$ points in the plane is $n$ choose 2, i.e., $binom{n}{2} = frac{n(n-1)}{2}$. But in a polygon, $n$ of those segments will be sides, so subtract it to get the number of diagonals: $frac{n(n-1)}{2} - n = frac{n(n-3)}{2}$.






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                              The number of line segments determined by $n$ points in the plane is $n$ choose 2, i.e., $binom{n}{2} = frac{n(n-1)}{2}$. But in a polygon, $n$ of those segments will be sides, so subtract it to get the number of diagonals: $frac{n(n-1)}{2} - n = frac{n(n-3)}{2}$.







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                                  The classic formula for the number of diagonals of an $n$ sided polygon is $frac {n(n-3)}2$ as you say. The way to see it is you have $n$ choices for the first end of a diagonal, then $n-3$ choices for the other end because you can't use the original vertex or a neighboring one, but have counted each diagonal twice so divide by $2$.



                                  You can write your sum $$2(n-3)+(n-4)+(n-5)+ldots+1=2(n-3)+sum_{i=1}^{n-4}i\=2(n-3)+frac 12(n-4)(n-3)\=frac 12(n-3)(4+(n-4))\=frac 12n(n-3)$$






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                                    The classic formula for the number of diagonals of an $n$ sided polygon is $frac {n(n-3)}2$ as you say. The way to see it is you have $n$ choices for the first end of a diagonal, then $n-3$ choices for the other end because you can't use the original vertex or a neighboring one, but have counted each diagonal twice so divide by $2$.



                                    You can write your sum $$2(n-3)+(n-4)+(n-5)+ldots+1=2(n-3)+sum_{i=1}^{n-4}i\=2(n-3)+frac 12(n-4)(n-3)\=frac 12(n-3)(4+(n-4))\=frac 12n(n-3)$$






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                                      The classic formula for the number of diagonals of an $n$ sided polygon is $frac {n(n-3)}2$ as you say. The way to see it is you have $n$ choices for the first end of a diagonal, then $n-3$ choices for the other end because you can't use the original vertex or a neighboring one, but have counted each diagonal twice so divide by $2$.



                                      You can write your sum $$2(n-3)+(n-4)+(n-5)+ldots+1=2(n-3)+sum_{i=1}^{n-4}i\=2(n-3)+frac 12(n-4)(n-3)\=frac 12(n-3)(4+(n-4))\=frac 12n(n-3)$$






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                                      The classic formula for the number of diagonals of an $n$ sided polygon is $frac {n(n-3)}2$ as you say. The way to see it is you have $n$ choices for the first end of a diagonal, then $n-3$ choices for the other end because you can't use the original vertex or a neighboring one, but have counted each diagonal twice so divide by $2$.



                                      You can write your sum $$2(n-3)+(n-4)+(n-5)+ldots+1=2(n-3)+sum_{i=1}^{n-4}i\=2(n-3)+frac 12(n-4)(n-3)\=frac 12(n-3)(4+(n-4))\=frac 12n(n-3)$$







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                                          You can also use the Handshake Lemma from graph theory. Let $G(V,E)$ be a graph on $n$ vertices, where the vertices form a regular $n$-gon and the edges are the diagonals of the $n$-gon. Then, prove that each vertex of $G$ has degree $n-3$. By the Handshake Lemma, $G$ has
                                          $$|E|=frac{1}{2},sum_{vin V},deg(v)=frac{1}{2},n,(n-3)=frac{n(n-3)}{2}$$ edges.






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                                            You can also use the Handshake Lemma from graph theory. Let $G(V,E)$ be a graph on $n$ vertices, where the vertices form a regular $n$-gon and the edges are the diagonals of the $n$-gon. Then, prove that each vertex of $G$ has degree $n-3$. By the Handshake Lemma, $G$ has
                                            $$|E|=frac{1}{2},sum_{vin V},deg(v)=frac{1}{2},n,(n-3)=frac{n(n-3)}{2}$$ edges.






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                                              You can also use the Handshake Lemma from graph theory. Let $G(V,E)$ be a graph on $n$ vertices, where the vertices form a regular $n$-gon and the edges are the diagonals of the $n$-gon. Then, prove that each vertex of $G$ has degree $n-3$. By the Handshake Lemma, $G$ has
                                              $$|E|=frac{1}{2},sum_{vin V},deg(v)=frac{1}{2},n,(n-3)=frac{n(n-3)}{2}$$ edges.






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                                              You can also use the Handshake Lemma from graph theory. Let $G(V,E)$ be a graph on $n$ vertices, where the vertices form a regular $n$-gon and the edges are the diagonals of the $n$-gon. Then, prove that each vertex of $G$ has degree $n-3$. By the Handshake Lemma, $G$ has
                                              $$|E|=frac{1}{2},sum_{vin V},deg(v)=frac{1}{2},n,(n-3)=frac{n(n-3)}{2}$$ edges.







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