Krull Dimension of $K otimes_k L$












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Let $k$ be a field and $K,L$ are arbitrary extensions of $k$.



What do we know about $dim(K otimes_k L)$ (as Krull dimension). How does it depend on transcendence degrees $trdeg_k(K), trdeg_k(L)$?



Futhermore: If we cosider by $k$ instead of a field a ring and $K,L$ be it's ring extensions. How does $dim(K otimes_k L)$ depend on $dim(K), dim(L)$?










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    Let $k$ be a field and $K,L$ are arbitrary extensions of $k$.



    What do we know about $dim(K otimes_k L)$ (as Krull dimension). How does it depend on transcendence degrees $trdeg_k(K), trdeg_k(L)$?



    Futhermore: If we cosider by $k$ instead of a field a ring and $K,L$ be it's ring extensions. How does $dim(K otimes_k L)$ depend on $dim(K), dim(L)$?










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      Let $k$ be a field and $K,L$ are arbitrary extensions of $k$.



      What do we know about $dim(K otimes_k L)$ (as Krull dimension). How does it depend on transcendence degrees $trdeg_k(K), trdeg_k(L)$?



      Futhermore: If we cosider by $k$ instead of a field a ring and $K,L$ be it's ring extensions. How does $dim(K otimes_k L)$ depend on $dim(K), dim(L)$?










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      Let $k$ be a field and $K,L$ are arbitrary extensions of $k$.



      What do we know about $dim(K otimes_k L)$ (as Krull dimension). How does it depend on transcendence degrees $trdeg_k(K), trdeg_k(L)$?



      Futhermore: If we cosider by $k$ instead of a field a ring and $K,L$ be it's ring extensions. How does $dim(K otimes_k L)$ depend on $dim(K), dim(L)$?







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          In the case where $k$ is a field we have



          $$ dim (K otimes_k L) = min(operatorname{trdeg}_k K, operatorname{trdeg}_k L) $$
          There is a Proof in Görtz's and Wedhorn's Algebraic Geometry 1 (Lemma B.97).



          No such thing is possible in the second case: Suppose $k$ is a ring that "happens to be" a field and $K = L = k(x_1, dots, x_n)$ are the ring extensions of $k$. We have $dim K = dim L = 0$ since they are fields but $dim(K otimes_k L) = n$. So $dim(K otimes_k L)$ does not only depend on $dim K$ and $dim L$.






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            Thank you. Do you know anything about results if we consider the same story with rings instead of fields?
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            looks that in case of rings it has something to do with transcendence degrees of quotient fields of the rings
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            Dec 30 '18 at 2:20











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          In the case where $k$ is a field we have



          $$ dim (K otimes_k L) = min(operatorname{trdeg}_k K, operatorname{trdeg}_k L) $$
          There is a Proof in Görtz's and Wedhorn's Algebraic Geometry 1 (Lemma B.97).



          No such thing is possible in the second case: Suppose $k$ is a ring that "happens to be" a field and $K = L = k(x_1, dots, x_n)$ are the ring extensions of $k$. We have $dim K = dim L = 0$ since they are fields but $dim(K otimes_k L) = n$. So $dim(K otimes_k L)$ does not only depend on $dim K$ and $dim L$.






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            Thank you. Do you know anything about results if we consider the same story with rings instead of fields?
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            – KarlPeter
            Dec 30 '18 at 0:55










          • $begingroup$
            looks that in case of rings it has something to do with transcendence degrees of quotient fields of the rings
            $endgroup$
            – KarlPeter
            Dec 30 '18 at 2:20
















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          $begingroup$

          In the case where $k$ is a field we have



          $$ dim (K otimes_k L) = min(operatorname{trdeg}_k K, operatorname{trdeg}_k L) $$
          There is a Proof in Görtz's and Wedhorn's Algebraic Geometry 1 (Lemma B.97).



          No such thing is possible in the second case: Suppose $k$ is a ring that "happens to be" a field and $K = L = k(x_1, dots, x_n)$ are the ring extensions of $k$. We have $dim K = dim L = 0$ since they are fields but $dim(K otimes_k L) = n$. So $dim(K otimes_k L)$ does not only depend on $dim K$ and $dim L$.






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          • $begingroup$
            Thank you. Do you know anything about results if we consider the same story with rings instead of fields?
            $endgroup$
            – KarlPeter
            Dec 30 '18 at 0:55










          • $begingroup$
            looks that in case of rings it has something to do with transcendence degrees of quotient fields of the rings
            $endgroup$
            – KarlPeter
            Dec 30 '18 at 2:20














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          $begingroup$

          In the case where $k$ is a field we have



          $$ dim (K otimes_k L) = min(operatorname{trdeg}_k K, operatorname{trdeg}_k L) $$
          There is a Proof in Görtz's and Wedhorn's Algebraic Geometry 1 (Lemma B.97).



          No such thing is possible in the second case: Suppose $k$ is a ring that "happens to be" a field and $K = L = k(x_1, dots, x_n)$ are the ring extensions of $k$. We have $dim K = dim L = 0$ since they are fields but $dim(K otimes_k L) = n$. So $dim(K otimes_k L)$ does not only depend on $dim K$ and $dim L$.






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          In the case where $k$ is a field we have



          $$ dim (K otimes_k L) = min(operatorname{trdeg}_k K, operatorname{trdeg}_k L) $$
          There is a Proof in Görtz's and Wedhorn's Algebraic Geometry 1 (Lemma B.97).



          No such thing is possible in the second case: Suppose $k$ is a ring that "happens to be" a field and $K = L = k(x_1, dots, x_n)$ are the ring extensions of $k$. We have $dim K = dim L = 0$ since they are fields but $dim(K otimes_k L) = n$. So $dim(K otimes_k L)$ does not only depend on $dim K$ and $dim L$.







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          • $begingroup$
            Thank you. Do you know anything about results if we consider the same story with rings instead of fields?
            $endgroup$
            – KarlPeter
            Dec 30 '18 at 0:55










          • $begingroup$
            looks that in case of rings it has something to do with transcendence degrees of quotient fields of the rings
            $endgroup$
            – KarlPeter
            Dec 30 '18 at 2:20


















          • $begingroup$
            Thank you. Do you know anything about results if we consider the same story with rings instead of fields?
            $endgroup$
            – KarlPeter
            Dec 30 '18 at 0:55










          • $begingroup$
            looks that in case of rings it has something to do with transcendence degrees of quotient fields of the rings
            $endgroup$
            – KarlPeter
            Dec 30 '18 at 2:20
















          $begingroup$
          Thank you. Do you know anything about results if we consider the same story with rings instead of fields?
          $endgroup$
          – KarlPeter
          Dec 30 '18 at 0:55




          $begingroup$
          Thank you. Do you know anything about results if we consider the same story with rings instead of fields?
          $endgroup$
          – KarlPeter
          Dec 30 '18 at 0:55












          $begingroup$
          looks that in case of rings it has something to do with transcendence degrees of quotient fields of the rings
          $endgroup$
          – KarlPeter
          Dec 30 '18 at 2:20




          $begingroup$
          looks that in case of rings it has something to do with transcendence degrees of quotient fields of the rings
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          Dec 30 '18 at 2:20


















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