On the irreducibility of a polynomial and Gauss lemma
$begingroup$
Let $P (X) = X^5 − 6X + 3$.
Prove that it is irreducible over $mathbb{Q}$.
In the solution I have for this exercice, I have litterally:
P is irreducible over $mathbb{F}_5$, therefore, by Gauss Lemma, it is irreducible over $mathbb{Q}$.
I am lacking the necessary knowledge about irreducibility by reducing modulo p. All I know is that there is a bijection between roots of P in $overline{mathbb{Q}}$ and the roots of $overline{P}$ in $overline{mathbb{F}_p}$.
I also know this generalization of Gauss Lemma: in a factorial ring A, with its fraction field K, a primitive $P$ is irreducible in $A[X] Leftrightarrow $ $P$ is irreducible in K[X].
How does this apply to P above?
Thank you for any directions or help.
abstract-algebra
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Let $P (X) = X^5 − 6X + 3$.
Prove that it is irreducible over $mathbb{Q}$.
In the solution I have for this exercice, I have litterally:
P is irreducible over $mathbb{F}_5$, therefore, by Gauss Lemma, it is irreducible over $mathbb{Q}$.
I am lacking the necessary knowledge about irreducibility by reducing modulo p. All I know is that there is a bijection between roots of P in $overline{mathbb{Q}}$ and the roots of $overline{P}$ in $overline{mathbb{F}_p}$.
I also know this generalization of Gauss Lemma: in a factorial ring A, with its fraction field K, a primitive $P$ is irreducible in $A[X] Leftrightarrow $ $P$ is irreducible in K[X].
How does this apply to P above?
Thank you for any directions or help.
abstract-algebra
$endgroup$
3
$begingroup$
Because $P$ is irreducible over $mathbb{Z}_5 Rightarrow P$ is irreducible over $mathbb{Z}$. And then $P$ is irreducible over $mathbb{Q}$ by Gauss's Lemma.
$endgroup$
– mouthetics
Dec 23 '18 at 3:50
$begingroup$
Thank you! is this a general fact? could please give some link to the litterature or a proof that P is irreducible over $mathbb{F}_pRightarrow$ P is irreducible over $mathbb{Z}$?
$endgroup$
– PerelMan
Dec 23 '18 at 4:17
2
$begingroup$
@PerelMan A factorisation over $Bbb Z$ induces one over $Bbb F_p$.
$endgroup$
– Lord Shark the Unknown
Dec 23 '18 at 5:19
2
$begingroup$
PerelMan, I try and describe the use of modular reduction in irreducibility proofs here. Also observe that Eisenstein's criterion with $p=3$ works here as well (and is the go-to technique for many).
$endgroup$
– Jyrki Lahtonen
Dec 23 '18 at 7:57
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Let $P (X) = X^5 − 6X + 3$.
Prove that it is irreducible over $mathbb{Q}$.
In the solution I have for this exercice, I have litterally:
P is irreducible over $mathbb{F}_5$, therefore, by Gauss Lemma, it is irreducible over $mathbb{Q}$.
I am lacking the necessary knowledge about irreducibility by reducing modulo p. All I know is that there is a bijection between roots of P in $overline{mathbb{Q}}$ and the roots of $overline{P}$ in $overline{mathbb{F}_p}$.
I also know this generalization of Gauss Lemma: in a factorial ring A, with its fraction field K, a primitive $P$ is irreducible in $A[X] Leftrightarrow $ $P$ is irreducible in K[X].
How does this apply to P above?
Thank you for any directions or help.
abstract-algebra
$endgroup$
Let $P (X) = X^5 − 6X + 3$.
Prove that it is irreducible over $mathbb{Q}$.
In the solution I have for this exercice, I have litterally:
P is irreducible over $mathbb{F}_5$, therefore, by Gauss Lemma, it is irreducible over $mathbb{Q}$.
I am lacking the necessary knowledge about irreducibility by reducing modulo p. All I know is that there is a bijection between roots of P in $overline{mathbb{Q}}$ and the roots of $overline{P}$ in $overline{mathbb{F}_p}$.
I also know this generalization of Gauss Lemma: in a factorial ring A, with its fraction field K, a primitive $P$ is irreducible in $A[X] Leftrightarrow $ $P$ is irreducible in K[X].
How does this apply to P above?
Thank you for any directions or help.
abstract-algebra
abstract-algebra
asked Dec 23 '18 at 3:40
PerelManPerelMan
538311
538311
3
$begingroup$
Because $P$ is irreducible over $mathbb{Z}_5 Rightarrow P$ is irreducible over $mathbb{Z}$. And then $P$ is irreducible over $mathbb{Q}$ by Gauss's Lemma.
$endgroup$
– mouthetics
Dec 23 '18 at 3:50
$begingroup$
Thank you! is this a general fact? could please give some link to the litterature or a proof that P is irreducible over $mathbb{F}_pRightarrow$ P is irreducible over $mathbb{Z}$?
$endgroup$
– PerelMan
Dec 23 '18 at 4:17
2
$begingroup$
@PerelMan A factorisation over $Bbb Z$ induces one over $Bbb F_p$.
$endgroup$
– Lord Shark the Unknown
Dec 23 '18 at 5:19
2
$begingroup$
PerelMan, I try and describe the use of modular reduction in irreducibility proofs here. Also observe that Eisenstein's criterion with $p=3$ works here as well (and is the go-to technique for many).
$endgroup$
– Jyrki Lahtonen
Dec 23 '18 at 7:57
add a comment |
3
$begingroup$
Because $P$ is irreducible over $mathbb{Z}_5 Rightarrow P$ is irreducible over $mathbb{Z}$. And then $P$ is irreducible over $mathbb{Q}$ by Gauss's Lemma.
$endgroup$
– mouthetics
Dec 23 '18 at 3:50
$begingroup$
Thank you! is this a general fact? could please give some link to the litterature or a proof that P is irreducible over $mathbb{F}_pRightarrow$ P is irreducible over $mathbb{Z}$?
$endgroup$
– PerelMan
Dec 23 '18 at 4:17
2
$begingroup$
@PerelMan A factorisation over $Bbb Z$ induces one over $Bbb F_p$.
$endgroup$
– Lord Shark the Unknown
Dec 23 '18 at 5:19
2
$begingroup$
PerelMan, I try and describe the use of modular reduction in irreducibility proofs here. Also observe that Eisenstein's criterion with $p=3$ works here as well (and is the go-to technique for many).
$endgroup$
– Jyrki Lahtonen
Dec 23 '18 at 7:57
3
3
$begingroup$
Because $P$ is irreducible over $mathbb{Z}_5 Rightarrow P$ is irreducible over $mathbb{Z}$. And then $P$ is irreducible over $mathbb{Q}$ by Gauss's Lemma.
$endgroup$
– mouthetics
Dec 23 '18 at 3:50
$begingroup$
Because $P$ is irreducible over $mathbb{Z}_5 Rightarrow P$ is irreducible over $mathbb{Z}$. And then $P$ is irreducible over $mathbb{Q}$ by Gauss's Lemma.
$endgroup$
– mouthetics
Dec 23 '18 at 3:50
$begingroup$
Thank you! is this a general fact? could please give some link to the litterature or a proof that P is irreducible over $mathbb{F}_pRightarrow$ P is irreducible over $mathbb{Z}$?
$endgroup$
– PerelMan
Dec 23 '18 at 4:17
$begingroup$
Thank you! is this a general fact? could please give some link to the litterature or a proof that P is irreducible over $mathbb{F}_pRightarrow$ P is irreducible over $mathbb{Z}$?
$endgroup$
– PerelMan
Dec 23 '18 at 4:17
2
2
$begingroup$
@PerelMan A factorisation over $Bbb Z$ induces one over $Bbb F_p$.
$endgroup$
– Lord Shark the Unknown
Dec 23 '18 at 5:19
$begingroup$
@PerelMan A factorisation over $Bbb Z$ induces one over $Bbb F_p$.
$endgroup$
– Lord Shark the Unknown
Dec 23 '18 at 5:19
2
2
$begingroup$
PerelMan, I try and describe the use of modular reduction in irreducibility proofs here. Also observe that Eisenstein's criterion with $p=3$ works here as well (and is the go-to technique for many).
$endgroup$
– Jyrki Lahtonen
Dec 23 '18 at 7:57
$begingroup$
PerelMan, I try and describe the use of modular reduction in irreducibility proofs here. Also observe that Eisenstein's criterion with $p=3$ works here as well (and is the go-to technique for many).
$endgroup$
– Jyrki Lahtonen
Dec 23 '18 at 7:57
add a comment |
1 Answer
1
active
oldest
votes
$begingroup$
There is a general result: Let $R$ be a ring and $I$ be a proper ideal. Fix a nonconstant monic polynomial $p(x) in R[x]$. If $overline{p(x)} in (R/I)[x]$ is irreducible, then $p(x)$ is irreducible in $R[x]$.
You can prove this by considering the contrapositive.
$endgroup$
add a comment |
Your Answer
StackExchange.ifUsing("editor", function () {
return StackExchange.using("mathjaxEditing", function () {
StackExchange.MarkdownEditor.creationCallbacks.add(function (editor, postfix) {
StackExchange.mathjaxEditing.prepareWmdForMathJax(editor, postfix, [["$", "$"], ["\\(","\\)"]]);
});
});
}, "mathjax-editing");
StackExchange.ready(function() {
var channelOptions = {
tags: "".split(" "),
id: "69"
};
initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);
StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function() {
// Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled) {
StackExchange.using("snippets", function() {
createEditor();
});
}
else {
createEditor();
}
});
function createEditor() {
StackExchange.prepareEditor({
heartbeatType: 'answer',
autoActivateHeartbeat: false,
convertImagesToLinks: true,
noModals: true,
showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
reputationToPostImages: 10,
bindNavPrevention: true,
postfix: "",
imageUploader: {
brandingHtml: "Powered by u003ca class="icon-imgur-white" href="https://imgur.com/"u003eu003c/au003e",
contentPolicyHtml: "User contributions licensed under u003ca href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"u003ecc by-sa 3.0 with attribution requiredu003c/au003e u003ca href="https://stackoverflow.com/legal/content-policy"u003e(content policy)u003c/au003e",
allowUrls: true
},
noCode: true, onDemand: true,
discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
});
}
});
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
StackExchange.ready(
function () {
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f3050038%2fon-the-irreducibility-of-a-polynomial-and-gauss-lemma%23new-answer', 'question_page');
}
);
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
1 Answer
1
active
oldest
votes
1 Answer
1
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
$begingroup$
There is a general result: Let $R$ be a ring and $I$ be a proper ideal. Fix a nonconstant monic polynomial $p(x) in R[x]$. If $overline{p(x)} in (R/I)[x]$ is irreducible, then $p(x)$ is irreducible in $R[x]$.
You can prove this by considering the contrapositive.
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
There is a general result: Let $R$ be a ring and $I$ be a proper ideal. Fix a nonconstant monic polynomial $p(x) in R[x]$. If $overline{p(x)} in (R/I)[x]$ is irreducible, then $p(x)$ is irreducible in $R[x]$.
You can prove this by considering the contrapositive.
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
There is a general result: Let $R$ be a ring and $I$ be a proper ideal. Fix a nonconstant monic polynomial $p(x) in R[x]$. If $overline{p(x)} in (R/I)[x]$ is irreducible, then $p(x)$ is irreducible in $R[x]$.
You can prove this by considering the contrapositive.
$endgroup$
There is a general result: Let $R$ be a ring and $I$ be a proper ideal. Fix a nonconstant monic polynomial $p(x) in R[x]$. If $overline{p(x)} in (R/I)[x]$ is irreducible, then $p(x)$ is irreducible in $R[x]$.
You can prove this by considering the contrapositive.
answered Dec 23 '18 at 5:18
Aniruddh AgarwalAniruddh Agarwal
1218
1218
add a comment |
add a comment |
Thanks for contributing an answer to Mathematics Stack Exchange!
- Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!
But avoid …
- Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.
- Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.
Use MathJax to format equations. MathJax reference.
To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
StackExchange.ready(
function () {
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f3050038%2fon-the-irreducibility-of-a-polynomial-and-gauss-lemma%23new-answer', 'question_page');
}
);
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
3
$begingroup$
Because $P$ is irreducible over $mathbb{Z}_5 Rightarrow P$ is irreducible over $mathbb{Z}$. And then $P$ is irreducible over $mathbb{Q}$ by Gauss's Lemma.
$endgroup$
– mouthetics
Dec 23 '18 at 3:50
$begingroup$
Thank you! is this a general fact? could please give some link to the litterature or a proof that P is irreducible over $mathbb{F}_pRightarrow$ P is irreducible over $mathbb{Z}$?
$endgroup$
– PerelMan
Dec 23 '18 at 4:17
2
$begingroup$
@PerelMan A factorisation over $Bbb Z$ induces one over $Bbb F_p$.
$endgroup$
– Lord Shark the Unknown
Dec 23 '18 at 5:19
2
$begingroup$
PerelMan, I try and describe the use of modular reduction in irreducibility proofs here. Also observe that Eisenstein's criterion with $p=3$ works here as well (and is the go-to technique for many).
$endgroup$
– Jyrki Lahtonen
Dec 23 '18 at 7:57