Find the expected number of stages until one of the players is eliminated.












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Moreover I have been given a problem based on this example: enter image description here



I tried to find an appropriate martingale to solve this problem but I couldn't. I would appreciate any tips and hints.










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    The two player game is known to have an expected length that is the product of the starting numbers of coins.
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    – Ross Millikan
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    @RossMillikan I have thought about $ M_n = X_n Y_n Z_n $, unfortunately it's not a martingale $ E(M_{n+1} | X_n = X, Y_n=Y, Z_n = Z) = XYZ -frac{1}{3}(X + Y + Z) $.
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I have been given an example:
enter image description here



Moreover I have been given a problem based on this example: enter image description here



I tried to find an appropriate martingale to solve this problem but I couldn't. I would appreciate any tips and hints.










share|cite|improve this question











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  • $begingroup$
    The two player game is known to have an expected length that is the product of the starting numbers of coins.
    $endgroup$
    – Ross Millikan
    Jan 10 at 22:40










  • $begingroup$
    @RossMillikan I have thought about $ M_n = X_n Y_n Z_n $, unfortunately it's not a martingale $ E(M_{n+1} | X_n = X, Y_n=Y, Z_n = Z) = XYZ -frac{1}{3}(X + Y + Z) $.
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    – Wywana
    Jan 11 at 0:35
















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$begingroup$


I have been given an example:
enter image description here



Moreover I have been given a problem based on this example: enter image description here



I tried to find an appropriate martingale to solve this problem but I couldn't. I would appreciate any tips and hints.










share|cite|improve this question











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I have been given an example:
enter image description here



Moreover I have been given a problem based on this example: enter image description here



I tried to find an appropriate martingale to solve this problem but I couldn't. I would appreciate any tips and hints.







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  • $begingroup$
    The two player game is known to have an expected length that is the product of the starting numbers of coins.
    $endgroup$
    – Ross Millikan
    Jan 10 at 22:40










  • $begingroup$
    @RossMillikan I have thought about $ M_n = X_n Y_n Z_n $, unfortunately it's not a martingale $ E(M_{n+1} | X_n = X, Y_n=Y, Z_n = Z) = XYZ -frac{1}{3}(X + Y + Z) $.
    $endgroup$
    – Wywana
    Jan 11 at 0:35




















  • $begingroup$
    The two player game is known to have an expected length that is the product of the starting numbers of coins.
    $endgroup$
    – Ross Millikan
    Jan 10 at 22:40










  • $begingroup$
    @RossMillikan I have thought about $ M_n = X_n Y_n Z_n $, unfortunately it's not a martingale $ E(M_{n+1} | X_n = X, Y_n=Y, Z_n = Z) = XYZ -frac{1}{3}(X + Y + Z) $.
    $endgroup$
    – Wywana
    Jan 11 at 0:35


















$begingroup$
The two player game is known to have an expected length that is the product of the starting numbers of coins.
$endgroup$
– Ross Millikan
Jan 10 at 22:40




$begingroup$
The two player game is known to have an expected length that is the product of the starting numbers of coins.
$endgroup$
– Ross Millikan
Jan 10 at 22:40












$begingroup$
@RossMillikan I have thought about $ M_n = X_n Y_n Z_n $, unfortunately it's not a martingale $ E(M_{n+1} | X_n = X, Y_n=Y, Z_n = Z) = XYZ -frac{1}{3}(X + Y + Z) $.
$endgroup$
– Wywana
Jan 11 at 0:35






$begingroup$
@RossMillikan I have thought about $ M_n = X_n Y_n Z_n $, unfortunately it's not a martingale $ E(M_{n+1} | X_n = X, Y_n=Y, Z_n = Z) = XYZ -frac{1}{3}(X + Y + Z) $.
$endgroup$
– Wywana
Jan 11 at 0:35












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