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I'm having a hard time figuring this out.
I'm asked to find the the equations of the horizontal lines to the curve of
$$y=x^3-3x+1$$



I set the derivative equal to zero and solve for x, to find the constant of each equation (since they are horizontal), I get $-1$ and $1$. When graphing the function, the $-1$ makes sense graphically, but the $1$ doesn't make sense, I realized that even more when asked to find the equations of the lines perpendicular to the above tangent lines at the point of tangency. When looking for the point of tendency it seems I should be getting $y=3$ instead of $y=1$ (at the top of the bell curve)



I'm completely stuck and wonder what I did wrong.
Thanks a lot for your help and sorry about the formatting, not sure why it didn't work.



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    I'm having a hard time figuring this out.
    I'm asked to find the the equations of the horizontal lines to the curve of
    $$y=x^3-3x+1$$



    I set the derivative equal to zero and solve for x, to find the constant of each equation (since they are horizontal), I get $-1$ and $1$. When graphing the function, the $-1$ makes sense graphically, but the $1$ doesn't make sense, I realized that even more when asked to find the equations of the lines perpendicular to the above tangent lines at the point of tangency. When looking for the point of tendency it seems I should be getting $y=3$ instead of $y=1$ (at the top of the bell curve)



    I'm completely stuck and wonder what I did wrong.
    Thanks a lot for your help and sorry about the formatting, not sure why it didn't work.



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      I'm having a hard time figuring this out.
      I'm asked to find the the equations of the horizontal lines to the curve of
      $$y=x^3-3x+1$$



      I set the derivative equal to zero and solve for x, to find the constant of each equation (since they are horizontal), I get $-1$ and $1$. When graphing the function, the $-1$ makes sense graphically, but the $1$ doesn't make sense, I realized that even more when asked to find the equations of the lines perpendicular to the above tangent lines at the point of tangency. When looking for the point of tendency it seems I should be getting $y=3$ instead of $y=1$ (at the top of the bell curve)



      I'm completely stuck and wonder what I did wrong.
      Thanks a lot for your help and sorry about the formatting, not sure why it didn't work.



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      I'm having a hard time figuring this out.
      I'm asked to find the the equations of the horizontal lines to the curve of
      $$y=x^3-3x+1$$



      I set the derivative equal to zero and solve for x, to find the constant of each equation (since they are horizontal), I get $-1$ and $1$. When graphing the function, the $-1$ makes sense graphically, but the $1$ doesn't make sense, I realized that even more when asked to find the equations of the lines perpendicular to the above tangent lines at the point of tangency. When looking for the point of tendency it seems I should be getting $y=3$ instead of $y=1$ (at the top of the bell curve)



      I'm completely stuck and wonder what I did wrong.
      Thanks a lot for your help and sorry about the formatting, not sure why it didn't work.



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          Your way seems correct, starting form



          $$f(x)=x^3-3x+1 implies f'(x)=3x^2-3=0 implies x=pm 1$$



          and then




          • $f(1)=-1$

          • $f(-1)=3$


          and the $2$ horizontal lines are then



          $$y=-1, quad y=3$$






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          • Right, but I am confused as why the equation of the derivative equal to zero did not give me 3 as a result, shouldn't it have?
            – Minimorum
            Dec 8 at 17:45






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            @Minimorum No it does not. The roots for $f'(x)=0$ give us the 2 critical points with horizontal tangent which are point of maximum and point minimum in that case . We need to plug the values into $f(x)$ to find the corresponding $y$ values.
            – gimusi
            Dec 8 at 17:49












          • Ooooh got it. Makes sense. For some reason I was getting stuck on the initial roots. Thanks so much for the help
            – Minimorum
            Dec 8 at 17:51










          • @Minimorum The point on f(x) with horizontal tangent line are then $(1,-1)$ and $(-1, 3)$.
            – gimusi
            Dec 8 at 17:51










          • @Minimorum You are welcome! You doubt was a simple issu but you have presented that in a proper way with all the details. Well done! Bye
            – gimusi
            Dec 8 at 17:52











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          Your way seems correct, starting form



          $$f(x)=x^3-3x+1 implies f'(x)=3x^2-3=0 implies x=pm 1$$



          and then




          • $f(1)=-1$

          • $f(-1)=3$


          and the $2$ horizontal lines are then



          $$y=-1, quad y=3$$






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          • Right, but I am confused as why the equation of the derivative equal to zero did not give me 3 as a result, shouldn't it have?
            – Minimorum
            Dec 8 at 17:45






          • 1




            @Minimorum No it does not. The roots for $f'(x)=0$ give us the 2 critical points with horizontal tangent which are point of maximum and point minimum in that case . We need to plug the values into $f(x)$ to find the corresponding $y$ values.
            – gimusi
            Dec 8 at 17:49












          • Ooooh got it. Makes sense. For some reason I was getting stuck on the initial roots. Thanks so much for the help
            – Minimorum
            Dec 8 at 17:51










          • @Minimorum The point on f(x) with horizontal tangent line are then $(1,-1)$ and $(-1, 3)$.
            – gimusi
            Dec 8 at 17:51










          • @Minimorum You are welcome! You doubt was a simple issu but you have presented that in a proper way with all the details. Well done! Bye
            – gimusi
            Dec 8 at 17:52
















          1














          Your way seems correct, starting form



          $$f(x)=x^3-3x+1 implies f'(x)=3x^2-3=0 implies x=pm 1$$



          and then




          • $f(1)=-1$

          • $f(-1)=3$


          and the $2$ horizontal lines are then



          $$y=-1, quad y=3$$






          share|cite|improve this answer























          • Right, but I am confused as why the equation of the derivative equal to zero did not give me 3 as a result, shouldn't it have?
            – Minimorum
            Dec 8 at 17:45






          • 1




            @Minimorum No it does not. The roots for $f'(x)=0$ give us the 2 critical points with horizontal tangent which are point of maximum and point minimum in that case . We need to plug the values into $f(x)$ to find the corresponding $y$ values.
            – gimusi
            Dec 8 at 17:49












          • Ooooh got it. Makes sense. For some reason I was getting stuck on the initial roots. Thanks so much for the help
            – Minimorum
            Dec 8 at 17:51










          • @Minimorum The point on f(x) with horizontal tangent line are then $(1,-1)$ and $(-1, 3)$.
            – gimusi
            Dec 8 at 17:51










          • @Minimorum You are welcome! You doubt was a simple issu but you have presented that in a proper way with all the details. Well done! Bye
            – gimusi
            Dec 8 at 17:52














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          1






          Your way seems correct, starting form



          $$f(x)=x^3-3x+1 implies f'(x)=3x^2-3=0 implies x=pm 1$$



          and then




          • $f(1)=-1$

          • $f(-1)=3$


          and the $2$ horizontal lines are then



          $$y=-1, quad y=3$$






          share|cite|improve this answer














          Your way seems correct, starting form



          $$f(x)=x^3-3x+1 implies f'(x)=3x^2-3=0 implies x=pm 1$$



          and then




          • $f(1)=-1$

          • $f(-1)=3$


          and the $2$ horizontal lines are then



          $$y=-1, quad y=3$$







          share|cite|improve this answer














          share|cite|improve this answer



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          • Right, but I am confused as why the equation of the derivative equal to zero did not give me 3 as a result, shouldn't it have?
            – Minimorum
            Dec 8 at 17:45






          • 1




            @Minimorum No it does not. The roots for $f'(x)=0$ give us the 2 critical points with horizontal tangent which are point of maximum and point minimum in that case . We need to plug the values into $f(x)$ to find the corresponding $y$ values.
            – gimusi
            Dec 8 at 17:49












          • Ooooh got it. Makes sense. For some reason I was getting stuck on the initial roots. Thanks so much for the help
            – Minimorum
            Dec 8 at 17:51










          • @Minimorum The point on f(x) with horizontal tangent line are then $(1,-1)$ and $(-1, 3)$.
            – gimusi
            Dec 8 at 17:51










          • @Minimorum You are welcome! You doubt was a simple issu but you have presented that in a proper way with all the details. Well done! Bye
            – gimusi
            Dec 8 at 17:52


















          • Right, but I am confused as why the equation of the derivative equal to zero did not give me 3 as a result, shouldn't it have?
            – Minimorum
            Dec 8 at 17:45






          • 1




            @Minimorum No it does not. The roots for $f'(x)=0$ give us the 2 critical points with horizontal tangent which are point of maximum and point minimum in that case . We need to plug the values into $f(x)$ to find the corresponding $y$ values.
            – gimusi
            Dec 8 at 17:49












          • Ooooh got it. Makes sense. For some reason I was getting stuck on the initial roots. Thanks so much for the help
            – Minimorum
            Dec 8 at 17:51










          • @Minimorum The point on f(x) with horizontal tangent line are then $(1,-1)$ and $(-1, 3)$.
            – gimusi
            Dec 8 at 17:51










          • @Minimorum You are welcome! You doubt was a simple issu but you have presented that in a proper way with all the details. Well done! Bye
            – gimusi
            Dec 8 at 17:52
















          Right, but I am confused as why the equation of the derivative equal to zero did not give me 3 as a result, shouldn't it have?
          – Minimorum
          Dec 8 at 17:45




          Right, but I am confused as why the equation of the derivative equal to zero did not give me 3 as a result, shouldn't it have?
          – Minimorum
          Dec 8 at 17:45




          1




          1




          @Minimorum No it does not. The roots for $f'(x)=0$ give us the 2 critical points with horizontal tangent which are point of maximum and point minimum in that case . We need to plug the values into $f(x)$ to find the corresponding $y$ values.
          – gimusi
          Dec 8 at 17:49






          @Minimorum No it does not. The roots for $f'(x)=0$ give us the 2 critical points with horizontal tangent which are point of maximum and point minimum in that case . We need to plug the values into $f(x)$ to find the corresponding $y$ values.
          – gimusi
          Dec 8 at 17:49














          Ooooh got it. Makes sense. For some reason I was getting stuck on the initial roots. Thanks so much for the help
          – Minimorum
          Dec 8 at 17:51




          Ooooh got it. Makes sense. For some reason I was getting stuck on the initial roots. Thanks so much for the help
          – Minimorum
          Dec 8 at 17:51












          @Minimorum The point on f(x) with horizontal tangent line are then $(1,-1)$ and $(-1, 3)$.
          – gimusi
          Dec 8 at 17:51




          @Minimorum The point on f(x) with horizontal tangent line are then $(1,-1)$ and $(-1, 3)$.
          – gimusi
          Dec 8 at 17:51












          @Minimorum You are welcome! You doubt was a simple issu but you have presented that in a proper way with all the details. Well done! Bye
          – gimusi
          Dec 8 at 17:52




          @Minimorum You are welcome! You doubt was a simple issu but you have presented that in a proper way with all the details. Well done! Bye
          – gimusi
          Dec 8 at 17:52


















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