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I have to give the equations of the planes that go through the point $(3,4,5)$ that are parallel to the lines with direction $(0,2,1)$ and that are on a distance 2 from the point $(1,1,1)$.



So if you say that the other vector of this plane is given by $(a, b, c)$ then I came to the conclusion that the equations of these planes are given by



$alpha leftrightarrow (2c-b)x + ay - 2az = -6a-3b+6c$



but now I don't know how I can use the distance to calculate the specific equations because you can't really derive a relation between $a,b$ and $c$.



Is there something I'm missing or an easier approach to solve this problem?










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    I have to give the equations of the planes that go through the point $(3,4,5)$ that are parallel to the lines with direction $(0,2,1)$ and that are on a distance 2 from the point $(1,1,1)$.



    So if you say that the other vector of this plane is given by $(a, b, c)$ then I came to the conclusion that the equations of these planes are given by



    $alpha leftrightarrow (2c-b)x + ay - 2az = -6a-3b+6c$



    but now I don't know how I can use the distance to calculate the specific equations because you can't really derive a relation between $a,b$ and $c$.



    Is there something I'm missing or an easier approach to solve this problem?










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      I have to give the equations of the planes that go through the point $(3,4,5)$ that are parallel to the lines with direction $(0,2,1)$ and that are on a distance 2 from the point $(1,1,1)$.



      So if you say that the other vector of this plane is given by $(a, b, c)$ then I came to the conclusion that the equations of these planes are given by



      $alpha leftrightarrow (2c-b)x + ay - 2az = -6a-3b+6c$



      but now I don't know how I can use the distance to calculate the specific equations because you can't really derive a relation between $a,b$ and $c$.



      Is there something I'm missing or an easier approach to solve this problem?










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      I have to give the equations of the planes that go through the point $(3,4,5)$ that are parallel to the lines with direction $(0,2,1)$ and that are on a distance 2 from the point $(1,1,1)$.



      So if you say that the other vector of this plane is given by $(a, b, c)$ then I came to the conclusion that the equations of these planes are given by



      $alpha leftrightarrow (2c-b)x + ay - 2az = -6a-3b+6c$



      but now I don't know how I can use the distance to calculate the specific equations because you can't really derive a relation between $a,b$ and $c$.



      Is there something I'm missing or an easier approach to solve this problem?







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          Let consider the plane equation $ax+by+cz+1=0$ (recall indeed that we can assume wlog $d=1$) and the given conditions




          • $3a+4b+5c+1=0$


          • $0cdot a+2cdot b+1cdot c=0$


          • $frac{|1cdot a+1cdot b+1cdot c+1|}{sqrt{a^2+b^2+c^2}}=2$



          from which we can find $a,b,c$.






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            Working this problem from a perspective-geometric point of view, the first two conditions define a pencil of planes that contain the points $[3:4:5:1]$ and $[0:2:1:0]$ (the point at infinity on the given set of parallel lines). These planes are null vectors of the matrix $$begin{bmatrix}3&4&5&1\0&2&1&0end{bmatrix}.$$ This space is spanned by $[1:0:0:-3]$ and $[2:1:-1:0]$, so the planes containing the two points are linear combinations of these basis vectors: $$mathbfpi(lambda,mu) = lambda[1:0:0:-3]+mu[2:1:-2:0] = [lambda+2mu:mu:-2mu:-3lambda],$$ i.e., every plane that satisfies the first two conditions has an equation of the form $$(lambda+2mu)x + mu y - 2mu z - 3lambda = 0$$ for $lambda$ and $mu$ not both zero. Using the usual formula for the distance between a point and plane and squaring to eliminate the square root will give you a homogeneous quadratic equation in $lambda$ and $mu$, which in this case easily factors to give two linearly independent solutions.






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              Let consider the plane equation $ax+by+cz+1=0$ (recall indeed that we can assume wlog $d=1$) and the given conditions




              • $3a+4b+5c+1=0$


              • $0cdot a+2cdot b+1cdot c=0$


              • $frac{|1cdot a+1cdot b+1cdot c+1|}{sqrt{a^2+b^2+c^2}}=2$



              from which we can find $a,b,c$.






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                Let consider the plane equation $ax+by+cz+1=0$ (recall indeed that we can assume wlog $d=1$) and the given conditions




                • $3a+4b+5c+1=0$


                • $0cdot a+2cdot b+1cdot c=0$


                • $frac{|1cdot a+1cdot b+1cdot c+1|}{sqrt{a^2+b^2+c^2}}=2$



                from which we can find $a,b,c$.






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                  Let consider the plane equation $ax+by+cz+1=0$ (recall indeed that we can assume wlog $d=1$) and the given conditions




                  • $3a+4b+5c+1=0$


                  • $0cdot a+2cdot b+1cdot c=0$


                  • $frac{|1cdot a+1cdot b+1cdot c+1|}{sqrt{a^2+b^2+c^2}}=2$



                  from which we can find $a,b,c$.






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                  Let consider the plane equation $ax+by+cz+1=0$ (recall indeed that we can assume wlog $d=1$) and the given conditions




                  • $3a+4b+5c+1=0$


                  • $0cdot a+2cdot b+1cdot c=0$


                  • $frac{|1cdot a+1cdot b+1cdot c+1|}{sqrt{a^2+b^2+c^2}}=2$



                  from which we can find $a,b,c$.







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                      Working this problem from a perspective-geometric point of view, the first two conditions define a pencil of planes that contain the points $[3:4:5:1]$ and $[0:2:1:0]$ (the point at infinity on the given set of parallel lines). These planes are null vectors of the matrix $$begin{bmatrix}3&4&5&1\0&2&1&0end{bmatrix}.$$ This space is spanned by $[1:0:0:-3]$ and $[2:1:-1:0]$, so the planes containing the two points are linear combinations of these basis vectors: $$mathbfpi(lambda,mu) = lambda[1:0:0:-3]+mu[2:1:-2:0] = [lambda+2mu:mu:-2mu:-3lambda],$$ i.e., every plane that satisfies the first two conditions has an equation of the form $$(lambda+2mu)x + mu y - 2mu z - 3lambda = 0$$ for $lambda$ and $mu$ not both zero. Using the usual formula for the distance between a point and plane and squaring to eliminate the square root will give you a homogeneous quadratic equation in $lambda$ and $mu$, which in this case easily factors to give two linearly independent solutions.






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                        Working this problem from a perspective-geometric point of view, the first two conditions define a pencil of planes that contain the points $[3:4:5:1]$ and $[0:2:1:0]$ (the point at infinity on the given set of parallel lines). These planes are null vectors of the matrix $$begin{bmatrix}3&4&5&1\0&2&1&0end{bmatrix}.$$ This space is spanned by $[1:0:0:-3]$ and $[2:1:-1:0]$, so the planes containing the two points are linear combinations of these basis vectors: $$mathbfpi(lambda,mu) = lambda[1:0:0:-3]+mu[2:1:-2:0] = [lambda+2mu:mu:-2mu:-3lambda],$$ i.e., every plane that satisfies the first two conditions has an equation of the form $$(lambda+2mu)x + mu y - 2mu z - 3lambda = 0$$ for $lambda$ and $mu$ not both zero. Using the usual formula for the distance between a point and plane and squaring to eliminate the square root will give you a homogeneous quadratic equation in $lambda$ and $mu$, which in this case easily factors to give two linearly independent solutions.






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                          Working this problem from a perspective-geometric point of view, the first two conditions define a pencil of planes that contain the points $[3:4:5:1]$ and $[0:2:1:0]$ (the point at infinity on the given set of parallel lines). These planes are null vectors of the matrix $$begin{bmatrix}3&4&5&1\0&2&1&0end{bmatrix}.$$ This space is spanned by $[1:0:0:-3]$ and $[2:1:-1:0]$, so the planes containing the two points are linear combinations of these basis vectors: $$mathbfpi(lambda,mu) = lambda[1:0:0:-3]+mu[2:1:-2:0] = [lambda+2mu:mu:-2mu:-3lambda],$$ i.e., every plane that satisfies the first two conditions has an equation of the form $$(lambda+2mu)x + mu y - 2mu z - 3lambda = 0$$ for $lambda$ and $mu$ not both zero. Using the usual formula for the distance between a point and plane and squaring to eliminate the square root will give you a homogeneous quadratic equation in $lambda$ and $mu$, which in this case easily factors to give two linearly independent solutions.






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                          Working this problem from a perspective-geometric point of view, the first two conditions define a pencil of planes that contain the points $[3:4:5:1]$ and $[0:2:1:0]$ (the point at infinity on the given set of parallel lines). These planes are null vectors of the matrix $$begin{bmatrix}3&4&5&1\0&2&1&0end{bmatrix}.$$ This space is spanned by $[1:0:0:-3]$ and $[2:1:-1:0]$, so the planes containing the two points are linear combinations of these basis vectors: $$mathbfpi(lambda,mu) = lambda[1:0:0:-3]+mu[2:1:-2:0] = [lambda+2mu:mu:-2mu:-3lambda],$$ i.e., every plane that satisfies the first two conditions has an equation of the form $$(lambda+2mu)x + mu y - 2mu z - 3lambda = 0$$ for $lambda$ and $mu$ not both zero. Using the usual formula for the distance between a point and plane and squaring to eliminate the square root will give you a homogeneous quadratic equation in $lambda$ and $mu$, which in this case easily factors to give two linearly independent solutions.







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