How to calculate the tangent of a 3d Parabola
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I have the following parabola $$ P:y^2 − 6x − 6y + 3 = 0.$$ How can I find the tangent parallel to line $ell: 3x − 2y + 7 = 0$?
I wouldn't have any problem with this problem if there was only one variable but how does this work with 2? Do I have to divert the parabola twice?
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I have the following parabola $$ P:y^2 − 6x − 6y + 3 = 0.$$ How can I find the tangent parallel to line $ell: 3x − 2y + 7 = 0$?
I wouldn't have any problem with this problem if there was only one variable but how does this work with 2? Do I have to divert the parabola twice?
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I have the following parabola $$ P:y^2 − 6x − 6y + 3 = 0.$$ How can I find the tangent parallel to line $ell: 3x − 2y + 7 = 0$?
I wouldn't have any problem with this problem if there was only one variable but how does this work with 2? Do I have to divert the parabola twice?
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I have the following parabola $$ P:y^2 − 6x − 6y + 3 = 0.$$ How can I find the tangent parallel to line $ell: 3x − 2y + 7 = 0$?
I wouldn't have any problem with this problem if there was only one variable but how does this work with 2? Do I have to divert the parabola twice?
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$P:y^2 − 6x − 6y + 3 = 0, ell: 3x − 2y + 7 = 0$
Note that these are still curves in the $xy$ plane, just not given in the conventional $y=f(x)$ form. This is called the implicit expression of a curve.
The slope of the tangent should be $frac32$. Differentiate the equation of $P$ with respect to $x$,
$2yy'-6-6y'=0implies y'=frac3{y-3}=frac32implies y-3=2$ or $y=5$
$y^2-6x-6y+3=0implies 25-6x-30+3=0implies x=-frac13$
The required tangent passes through $(-frac13,5)$. Its equation is $y-5=frac32(x+frac13)implies y=frac32x+frac{11}2$
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So the slope of a line is $3/2$ so a tangenthas equation $y=3x/2 +n$.
Since $3x = 2y-2n$ we have quadratic equation on $y$ with parameter $$y^2-6y+3 -2(2y-2n)=0$$
or
$$y^2-10y+3 +4n=0$$
since it must have only one solution, a discriminant is 0:
$$ 100-4(3+4n)=0implies n=11/2$$
so the equation of tangent is $boxed{y={3over 2}x +{11over 2}}$.
$y^2-6y+3-2(2y-2n)=0$
– Shubham Johri
Dec 3 at 15:39
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The tangent line to this parabola at a point $(x_0,y_0)$ on it is given by the equation $$yy_0-3(x+x_0)-3(y+y_0)+3=0. tag 1$$ (There’s a simple substitution rule to obtain the tangent to any conic given its implicit Cartesian equation.) Rearrange this equation into $$-3x+(y_0-3)y-3(x_0+y_0+3)=0.$$ Comparing its coefficients to those of the parallel line equation we have $y_0-3=2$. Substitute the resulting value of $y_0$ into the parabola’s equation and solve for $x_0$, then substitute both into equation (1).
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3 Answers
3
active
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active
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$P:y^2 − 6x − 6y + 3 = 0, ell: 3x − 2y + 7 = 0$
Note that these are still curves in the $xy$ plane, just not given in the conventional $y=f(x)$ form. This is called the implicit expression of a curve.
The slope of the tangent should be $frac32$. Differentiate the equation of $P$ with respect to $x$,
$2yy'-6-6y'=0implies y'=frac3{y-3}=frac32implies y-3=2$ or $y=5$
$y^2-6x-6y+3=0implies 25-6x-30+3=0implies x=-frac13$
The required tangent passes through $(-frac13,5)$. Its equation is $y-5=frac32(x+frac13)implies y=frac32x+frac{11}2$
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2
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accepted
$P:y^2 − 6x − 6y + 3 = 0, ell: 3x − 2y + 7 = 0$
Note that these are still curves in the $xy$ plane, just not given in the conventional $y=f(x)$ form. This is called the implicit expression of a curve.
The slope of the tangent should be $frac32$. Differentiate the equation of $P$ with respect to $x$,
$2yy'-6-6y'=0implies y'=frac3{y-3}=frac32implies y-3=2$ or $y=5$
$y^2-6x-6y+3=0implies 25-6x-30+3=0implies x=-frac13$
The required tangent passes through $(-frac13,5)$. Its equation is $y-5=frac32(x+frac13)implies y=frac32x+frac{11}2$
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2
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up vote
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$P:y^2 − 6x − 6y + 3 = 0, ell: 3x − 2y + 7 = 0$
Note that these are still curves in the $xy$ plane, just not given in the conventional $y=f(x)$ form. This is called the implicit expression of a curve.
The slope of the tangent should be $frac32$. Differentiate the equation of $P$ with respect to $x$,
$2yy'-6-6y'=0implies y'=frac3{y-3}=frac32implies y-3=2$ or $y=5$
$y^2-6x-6y+3=0implies 25-6x-30+3=0implies x=-frac13$
The required tangent passes through $(-frac13,5)$. Its equation is $y-5=frac32(x+frac13)implies y=frac32x+frac{11}2$
$P:y^2 − 6x − 6y + 3 = 0, ell: 3x − 2y + 7 = 0$
Note that these are still curves in the $xy$ plane, just not given in the conventional $y=f(x)$ form. This is called the implicit expression of a curve.
The slope of the tangent should be $frac32$. Differentiate the equation of $P$ with respect to $x$,
$2yy'-6-6y'=0implies y'=frac3{y-3}=frac32implies y-3=2$ or $y=5$
$y^2-6x-6y+3=0implies 25-6x-30+3=0implies x=-frac13$
The required tangent passes through $(-frac13,5)$. Its equation is $y-5=frac32(x+frac13)implies y=frac32x+frac{11}2$
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So the slope of a line is $3/2$ so a tangenthas equation $y=3x/2 +n$.
Since $3x = 2y-2n$ we have quadratic equation on $y$ with parameter $$y^2-6y+3 -2(2y-2n)=0$$
or
$$y^2-10y+3 +4n=0$$
since it must have only one solution, a discriminant is 0:
$$ 100-4(3+4n)=0implies n=11/2$$
so the equation of tangent is $boxed{y={3over 2}x +{11over 2}}$.
$y^2-6y+3-2(2y-2n)=0$
– Shubham Johri
Dec 3 at 15:39
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So the slope of a line is $3/2$ so a tangenthas equation $y=3x/2 +n$.
Since $3x = 2y-2n$ we have quadratic equation on $y$ with parameter $$y^2-6y+3 -2(2y-2n)=0$$
or
$$y^2-10y+3 +4n=0$$
since it must have only one solution, a discriminant is 0:
$$ 100-4(3+4n)=0implies n=11/2$$
so the equation of tangent is $boxed{y={3over 2}x +{11over 2}}$.
$y^2-6y+3-2(2y-2n)=0$
– Shubham Johri
Dec 3 at 15:39
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So the slope of a line is $3/2$ so a tangenthas equation $y=3x/2 +n$.
Since $3x = 2y-2n$ we have quadratic equation on $y$ with parameter $$y^2-6y+3 -2(2y-2n)=0$$
or
$$y^2-10y+3 +4n=0$$
since it must have only one solution, a discriminant is 0:
$$ 100-4(3+4n)=0implies n=11/2$$
so the equation of tangent is $boxed{y={3over 2}x +{11over 2}}$.
So the slope of a line is $3/2$ so a tangenthas equation $y=3x/2 +n$.
Since $3x = 2y-2n$ we have quadratic equation on $y$ with parameter $$y^2-6y+3 -2(2y-2n)=0$$
or
$$y^2-10y+3 +4n=0$$
since it must have only one solution, a discriminant is 0:
$$ 100-4(3+4n)=0implies n=11/2$$
so the equation of tangent is $boxed{y={3over 2}x +{11over 2}}$.
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answered Dec 3 at 13:05
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$y^2-6y+3-2(2y-2n)=0$
– Shubham Johri
Dec 3 at 15:39
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$y^2-6y+3-2(2y-2n)=0$
– Shubham Johri
Dec 3 at 15:39
$y^2-6y+3-2(2y-2n)=0$
– Shubham Johri
Dec 3 at 15:39
$y^2-6y+3-2(2y-2n)=0$
– Shubham Johri
Dec 3 at 15:39
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The tangent line to this parabola at a point $(x_0,y_0)$ on it is given by the equation $$yy_0-3(x+x_0)-3(y+y_0)+3=0. tag 1$$ (There’s a simple substitution rule to obtain the tangent to any conic given its implicit Cartesian equation.) Rearrange this equation into $$-3x+(y_0-3)y-3(x_0+y_0+3)=0.$$ Comparing its coefficients to those of the parallel line equation we have $y_0-3=2$. Substitute the resulting value of $y_0$ into the parabola’s equation and solve for $x_0$, then substitute both into equation (1).
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The tangent line to this parabola at a point $(x_0,y_0)$ on it is given by the equation $$yy_0-3(x+x_0)-3(y+y_0)+3=0. tag 1$$ (There’s a simple substitution rule to obtain the tangent to any conic given its implicit Cartesian equation.) Rearrange this equation into $$-3x+(y_0-3)y-3(x_0+y_0+3)=0.$$ Comparing its coefficients to those of the parallel line equation we have $y_0-3=2$. Substitute the resulting value of $y_0$ into the parabola’s equation and solve for $x_0$, then substitute both into equation (1).
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The tangent line to this parabola at a point $(x_0,y_0)$ on it is given by the equation $$yy_0-3(x+x_0)-3(y+y_0)+3=0. tag 1$$ (There’s a simple substitution rule to obtain the tangent to any conic given its implicit Cartesian equation.) Rearrange this equation into $$-3x+(y_0-3)y-3(x_0+y_0+3)=0.$$ Comparing its coefficients to those of the parallel line equation we have $y_0-3=2$. Substitute the resulting value of $y_0$ into the parabola’s equation and solve for $x_0$, then substitute both into equation (1).
The tangent line to this parabola at a point $(x_0,y_0)$ on it is given by the equation $$yy_0-3(x+x_0)-3(y+y_0)+3=0. tag 1$$ (There’s a simple substitution rule to obtain the tangent to any conic given its implicit Cartesian equation.) Rearrange this equation into $$-3x+(y_0-3)y-3(x_0+y_0+3)=0.$$ Comparing its coefficients to those of the parallel line equation we have $y_0-3=2$. Substitute the resulting value of $y_0$ into the parabola’s equation and solve for $x_0$, then substitute both into equation (1).
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