A question about “$times$” notation with group actions












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Per Wikipedia, a (left) group action is defined as follows:




If $G $ is a group and $X$ is a set, then a (left) group action $φ$ of $G$ on $X$ is a function $$varphi : G times X to X : (g,x)mapsto varphi(g,x)cdots
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(and so on).




My question is, what is the meaning of the "$times$" notation in this context? It immediately calls to mind direct products and cross products. If so, it is defined via two groups, but $X$ here is a set than group, so I have my doubts.










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    For the record, this is not the definition of a left group action, the crucial part of the definition is missing.
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$begingroup$


Per Wikipedia, a (left) group action is defined as follows:




If $G $ is a group and $X$ is a set, then a (left) group action $φ$ of $G$ on $X$ is a function $$varphi : G times X to X : (g,x)mapsto varphi(g,x)cdots
$$
(and so on).




My question is, what is the meaning of the "$times$" notation in this context? It immediately calls to mind direct products and cross products. If so, it is defined via two groups, but $X$ here is a set than group, so I have my doubts.










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    $begingroup$
    For the record, this is not the definition of a left group action, the crucial part of the definition is missing.
    $endgroup$
    – Did
    Dec 28 '18 at 17:37
















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$begingroup$


Per Wikipedia, a (left) group action is defined as follows:




If $G $ is a group and $X$ is a set, then a (left) group action $φ$ of $G$ on $X$ is a function $$varphi : G times X to X : (g,x)mapsto varphi(g,x)cdots
$$
(and so on).




My question is, what is the meaning of the "$times$" notation in this context? It immediately calls to mind direct products and cross products. If so, it is defined via two groups, but $X$ here is a set than group, so I have my doubts.










share|cite|improve this question











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Per Wikipedia, a (left) group action is defined as follows:




If $G $ is a group and $X$ is a set, then a (left) group action $φ$ of $G$ on $X$ is a function $$varphi : G times X to X : (g,x)mapsto varphi(g,x)cdots
$$
(and so on).




My question is, what is the meaning of the "$times$" notation in this context? It immediately calls to mind direct products and cross products. If so, it is defined via two groups, but $X$ here is a set than group, so I have my doubts.







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    $begingroup$
    For the record, this is not the definition of a left group action, the crucial part of the definition is missing.
    $endgroup$
    – Did
    Dec 28 '18 at 17:37
















  • 1




    $begingroup$
    For the record, this is not the definition of a left group action, the crucial part of the definition is missing.
    $endgroup$
    – Did
    Dec 28 '18 at 17:37










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$begingroup$
For the record, this is not the definition of a left group action, the crucial part of the definition is missing.
$endgroup$
– Did
Dec 28 '18 at 17:37






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For the record, this is not the definition of a left group action, the crucial part of the definition is missing.
$endgroup$
– Did
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It is the Cartesian product of (the underlying set of) $G$ with $X$, i.e., $$Gtimes X={(g, x)mid gin G, xin X}.$$






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    $begingroup$

    It is the Cartesian product of the two sets $G$ and $X$. The group structure on $G$ will then be used in the definition of an "action" (associativity and identity acts like an identity).






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      $begingroup$

      The $times$ here is not a cross product, but a cartesian product (an operation between sets). Here it indicates that the action $varphi$ is actually a function that has the set $G times X$ for its domain ($G times X$ is the set of all pairs of an element of $G$ together with an element of $X$). Its codomain is $X$.



      Or put it more simple, $phi$ takes one element of the group $G$ and one element of the set $X$, and returns as output an element of $X$.






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        It is the Cartesian product of (the underlying set of) $G$ with $X$, i.e., $$Gtimes X={(g, x)mid gin G, xin X}.$$






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          It is the Cartesian product of (the underlying set of) $G$ with $X$, i.e., $$Gtimes X={(g, x)mid gin G, xin X}.$$






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            It is the Cartesian product of (the underlying set of) $G$ with $X$, i.e., $$Gtimes X={(g, x)mid gin G, xin X}.$$






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            It is the Cartesian product of (the underlying set of) $G$ with $X$, i.e., $$Gtimes X={(g, x)mid gin G, xin X}.$$







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                $begingroup$

                It is the Cartesian product of the two sets $G$ and $X$. The group structure on $G$ will then be used in the definition of an "action" (associativity and identity acts like an identity).






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                  It is the Cartesian product of the two sets $G$ and $X$. The group structure on $G$ will then be used in the definition of an "action" (associativity and identity acts like an identity).






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                    $begingroup$

                    It is the Cartesian product of the two sets $G$ and $X$. The group structure on $G$ will then be used in the definition of an "action" (associativity and identity acts like an identity).






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                    It is the Cartesian product of the two sets $G$ and $X$. The group structure on $G$ will then be used in the definition of an "action" (associativity and identity acts like an identity).







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                        $begingroup$

                        The $times$ here is not a cross product, but a cartesian product (an operation between sets). Here it indicates that the action $varphi$ is actually a function that has the set $G times X$ for its domain ($G times X$ is the set of all pairs of an element of $G$ together with an element of $X$). Its codomain is $X$.



                        Or put it more simple, $phi$ takes one element of the group $G$ and one element of the set $X$, and returns as output an element of $X$.






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                          $begingroup$

                          The $times$ here is not a cross product, but a cartesian product (an operation between sets). Here it indicates that the action $varphi$ is actually a function that has the set $G times X$ for its domain ($G times X$ is the set of all pairs of an element of $G$ together with an element of $X$). Its codomain is $X$.



                          Or put it more simple, $phi$ takes one element of the group $G$ and one element of the set $X$, and returns as output an element of $X$.






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                            $begingroup$

                            The $times$ here is not a cross product, but a cartesian product (an operation between sets). Here it indicates that the action $varphi$ is actually a function that has the set $G times X$ for its domain ($G times X$ is the set of all pairs of an element of $G$ together with an element of $X$). Its codomain is $X$.



                            Or put it more simple, $phi$ takes one element of the group $G$ and one element of the set $X$, and returns as output an element of $X$.






                            share|cite|improve this answer









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                            The $times$ here is not a cross product, but a cartesian product (an operation between sets). Here it indicates that the action $varphi$ is actually a function that has the set $G times X$ for its domain ($G times X$ is the set of all pairs of an element of $G$ together with an element of $X$). Its codomain is $X$.



                            Or put it more simple, $phi$ takes one element of the group $G$ and one element of the set $X$, and returns as output an element of $X$.







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