How to Prove The Complement Of The Domain Is Complement Of The Image If f Is Bijective












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It seems true that $f(overline{X}) = overline{f(X)}$ for $f:Arightarrow B$ and $X$ is any subset of $A$ if and only if $f$ is bijective.But I couldn't write it as a formal way like epsilon argument.It makes sense to me but the trouble I have is with the formal prove.










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    Of course not ! Take $f(x)=xboldsymbol 1_{mathbb Qcap [0,1]}$. Is surjective : $[0,1]to mathbb Qcap [0,1]$ but $fleft(overline{[0,1]cap mathbb Q}right)neq overline{f([0,1]cap mathbb Q)}$
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  • What if it is bijective it is surely true. Let me change the question then
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  • Now it's not : $f(x)=xboldsymbol 1_{mathbb Qcap [0,1]}-xboldsymbol 1_{mathbb Rsetminus mathbb Qcap [0,1]}$. It's bijective $[0,1]to (mathbb Qcap [0,1])cup((mathbb Rsetminus mathbb Q)cap (0,-1])$ but $f(overline{[0,1]cap mathbb Q})neq overline{f([0,1]cap mathbb Q)}$. What is exactely your exercise ?
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It seems true that $f(overline{X}) = overline{f(X)}$ for $f:Arightarrow B$ and $X$ is any subset of $A$ if and only if $f$ is bijective.But I couldn't write it as a formal way like epsilon argument.It makes sense to me but the trouble I have is with the formal prove.










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    Of course not ! Take $f(x)=xboldsymbol 1_{mathbb Qcap [0,1]}$. Is surjective : $[0,1]to mathbb Qcap [0,1]$ but $fleft(overline{[0,1]cap mathbb Q}right)neq overline{f([0,1]cap mathbb Q)}$
    – Surb
    Dec 9 at 13:02












  • What if it is bijective it is surely true. Let me change the question then
    – selman özlyn
    Dec 9 at 13:12










  • Now it's not : $f(x)=xboldsymbol 1_{mathbb Qcap [0,1]}-xboldsymbol 1_{mathbb Rsetminus mathbb Qcap [0,1]}$. It's bijective $[0,1]to (mathbb Qcap [0,1])cup((mathbb Rsetminus mathbb Q)cap (0,-1])$ but $f(overline{[0,1]cap mathbb Q})neq overline{f([0,1]cap mathbb Q)}$. What is exactely your exercise ?
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    Dec 9 at 13:33
















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It seems true that $f(overline{X}) = overline{f(X)}$ for $f:Arightarrow B$ and $X$ is any subset of $A$ if and only if $f$ is bijective.But I couldn't write it as a formal way like epsilon argument.It makes sense to me but the trouble I have is with the formal prove.










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It seems true that $f(overline{X}) = overline{f(X)}$ for $f:Arightarrow B$ and $X$ is any subset of $A$ if and only if $f$ is bijective.But I couldn't write it as a formal way like epsilon argument.It makes sense to me but the trouble I have is with the formal prove.







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    Of course not ! Take $f(x)=xboldsymbol 1_{mathbb Qcap [0,1]}$. Is surjective : $[0,1]to mathbb Qcap [0,1]$ but $fleft(overline{[0,1]cap mathbb Q}right)neq overline{f([0,1]cap mathbb Q)}$
    – Surb
    Dec 9 at 13:02












  • What if it is bijective it is surely true. Let me change the question then
    – selman özlyn
    Dec 9 at 13:12










  • Now it's not : $f(x)=xboldsymbol 1_{mathbb Qcap [0,1]}-xboldsymbol 1_{mathbb Rsetminus mathbb Qcap [0,1]}$. It's bijective $[0,1]to (mathbb Qcap [0,1])cup((mathbb Rsetminus mathbb Q)cap (0,-1])$ but $f(overline{[0,1]cap mathbb Q})neq overline{f([0,1]cap mathbb Q)}$. What is exactely your exercise ?
    – Surb
    Dec 9 at 13:33
















  • 1




    Of course not ! Take $f(x)=xboldsymbol 1_{mathbb Qcap [0,1]}$. Is surjective : $[0,1]to mathbb Qcap [0,1]$ but $fleft(overline{[0,1]cap mathbb Q}right)neq overline{f([0,1]cap mathbb Q)}$
    – Surb
    Dec 9 at 13:02












  • What if it is bijective it is surely true. Let me change the question then
    – selman özlyn
    Dec 9 at 13:12










  • Now it's not : $f(x)=xboldsymbol 1_{mathbb Qcap [0,1]}-xboldsymbol 1_{mathbb Rsetminus mathbb Qcap [0,1]}$. It's bijective $[0,1]to (mathbb Qcap [0,1])cup((mathbb Rsetminus mathbb Q)cap (0,-1])$ but $f(overline{[0,1]cap mathbb Q})neq overline{f([0,1]cap mathbb Q)}$. What is exactely your exercise ?
    – Surb
    Dec 9 at 13:33










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Of course not ! Take $f(x)=xboldsymbol 1_{mathbb Qcap [0,1]}$. Is surjective : $[0,1]to mathbb Qcap [0,1]$ but $fleft(overline{[0,1]cap mathbb Q}right)neq overline{f([0,1]cap mathbb Q)}$
– Surb
Dec 9 at 13:02






Of course not ! Take $f(x)=xboldsymbol 1_{mathbb Qcap [0,1]}$. Is surjective : $[0,1]to mathbb Qcap [0,1]$ but $fleft(overline{[0,1]cap mathbb Q}right)neq overline{f([0,1]cap mathbb Q)}$
– Surb
Dec 9 at 13:02














What if it is bijective it is surely true. Let me change the question then
– selman özlyn
Dec 9 at 13:12




What if it is bijective it is surely true. Let me change the question then
– selman özlyn
Dec 9 at 13:12












Now it's not : $f(x)=xboldsymbol 1_{mathbb Qcap [0,1]}-xboldsymbol 1_{mathbb Rsetminus mathbb Qcap [0,1]}$. It's bijective $[0,1]to (mathbb Qcap [0,1])cup((mathbb Rsetminus mathbb Q)cap (0,-1])$ but $f(overline{[0,1]cap mathbb Q})neq overline{f([0,1]cap mathbb Q)}$. What is exactely your exercise ?
– Surb
Dec 9 at 13:33






Now it's not : $f(x)=xboldsymbol 1_{mathbb Qcap [0,1]}-xboldsymbol 1_{mathbb Rsetminus mathbb Qcap [0,1]}$. It's bijective $[0,1]to (mathbb Qcap [0,1])cup((mathbb Rsetminus mathbb Q)cap (0,-1])$ but $f(overline{[0,1]cap mathbb Q})neq overline{f([0,1]cap mathbb Q)}$. What is exactely your exercise ?
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Let us formulate matters more precisely: consider two arbitrary sets $A, B$ and a map $f: A rightarrow B$. We have the following elementary propositions:






  1. $f$ is injective if and only if
    $$(forall X)(X subseteq A implies f(complement_{A}X) subseteq complement_{B}f(X))$$




Proof : Assuming first the injectivity of $f$, consider arbitrary $X subseteq A$ and $y in f(complement_{A}X)$, such that $y=f(x)$ with $x in A setminus X$. If we were to assume by contradiction that $y in f(X)$ it would entail that $y=f(t)$ for a certain $t in X$; as $y=f(x)=f(t)$ and $f$ is injective, we could conclude $x=t in X$ in contradiction to $x notin X$. Hence $y in B setminus f(X)$ and the inclusion is established.



Assuming conversely that the stated inclusion holds for any subset $X$, let us consider arbitrary $x, y in A$ with $x neq y$. This means that $y in A setminus {x}$ and thus by our assumption
$$f({y})={f(y)} subseteq f(A setminus {x})subseteq B setminus f({x})=B setminus {f(x)}$$
from which we infer that $f(x) neq f(y)$ and conclude $f$ is indeed injective. $Box$






  1. $f$ is bijective if and only if:
    $$(forall X)(X subseteq A implies f(complement_{A}X)=complement_{B}f(X))$$




Proof : Assume first $f$ is bijective and consider arbitrary $X subseteq A$. Bijectivity comprises injectivity and thus the previous result entails that we have a valid inclusion in the direction specified above. As for the reverse inclusion we quote the following general result, valid for any function without any special hypotheses:



$$(forall X)(X subseteq A implies f(A) setminus f(X) subseteq f(A setminus X))$$



and we bear in mind that since $f$ is also assumed to be surjective, we automatically have $f(A)=B$.



To establish the reverse implication, assuming the given relation of equality for any subset $X$ we first infer by 1. that $f$ is injective; its surjectivity we derive by considering the particular case $X= emptyset$, which yields:
$$f(A setminus emptyset)=f(A)=B setminus f(emptyset)=B setminus emptyset =B$$
This concludes the proof. $Box$






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    Let us formulate matters more precisely: consider two arbitrary sets $A, B$ and a map $f: A rightarrow B$. We have the following elementary propositions:






    1. $f$ is injective if and only if
      $$(forall X)(X subseteq A implies f(complement_{A}X) subseteq complement_{B}f(X))$$




    Proof : Assuming first the injectivity of $f$, consider arbitrary $X subseteq A$ and $y in f(complement_{A}X)$, such that $y=f(x)$ with $x in A setminus X$. If we were to assume by contradiction that $y in f(X)$ it would entail that $y=f(t)$ for a certain $t in X$; as $y=f(x)=f(t)$ and $f$ is injective, we could conclude $x=t in X$ in contradiction to $x notin X$. Hence $y in B setminus f(X)$ and the inclusion is established.



    Assuming conversely that the stated inclusion holds for any subset $X$, let us consider arbitrary $x, y in A$ with $x neq y$. This means that $y in A setminus {x}$ and thus by our assumption
    $$f({y})={f(y)} subseteq f(A setminus {x})subseteq B setminus f({x})=B setminus {f(x)}$$
    from which we infer that $f(x) neq f(y)$ and conclude $f$ is indeed injective. $Box$






    1. $f$ is bijective if and only if:
      $$(forall X)(X subseteq A implies f(complement_{A}X)=complement_{B}f(X))$$




    Proof : Assume first $f$ is bijective and consider arbitrary $X subseteq A$. Bijectivity comprises injectivity and thus the previous result entails that we have a valid inclusion in the direction specified above. As for the reverse inclusion we quote the following general result, valid for any function without any special hypotheses:



    $$(forall X)(X subseteq A implies f(A) setminus f(X) subseteq f(A setminus X))$$



    and we bear in mind that since $f$ is also assumed to be surjective, we automatically have $f(A)=B$.



    To establish the reverse implication, assuming the given relation of equality for any subset $X$ we first infer by 1. that $f$ is injective; its surjectivity we derive by considering the particular case $X= emptyset$, which yields:
    $$f(A setminus emptyset)=f(A)=B setminus f(emptyset)=B setminus emptyset =B$$
    This concludes the proof. $Box$






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      Let us formulate matters more precisely: consider two arbitrary sets $A, B$ and a map $f: A rightarrow B$. We have the following elementary propositions:






      1. $f$ is injective if and only if
        $$(forall X)(X subseteq A implies f(complement_{A}X) subseteq complement_{B}f(X))$$




      Proof : Assuming first the injectivity of $f$, consider arbitrary $X subseteq A$ and $y in f(complement_{A}X)$, such that $y=f(x)$ with $x in A setminus X$. If we were to assume by contradiction that $y in f(X)$ it would entail that $y=f(t)$ for a certain $t in X$; as $y=f(x)=f(t)$ and $f$ is injective, we could conclude $x=t in X$ in contradiction to $x notin X$. Hence $y in B setminus f(X)$ and the inclusion is established.



      Assuming conversely that the stated inclusion holds for any subset $X$, let us consider arbitrary $x, y in A$ with $x neq y$. This means that $y in A setminus {x}$ and thus by our assumption
      $$f({y})={f(y)} subseteq f(A setminus {x})subseteq B setminus f({x})=B setminus {f(x)}$$
      from which we infer that $f(x) neq f(y)$ and conclude $f$ is indeed injective. $Box$






      1. $f$ is bijective if and only if:
        $$(forall X)(X subseteq A implies f(complement_{A}X)=complement_{B}f(X))$$




      Proof : Assume first $f$ is bijective and consider arbitrary $X subseteq A$. Bijectivity comprises injectivity and thus the previous result entails that we have a valid inclusion in the direction specified above. As for the reverse inclusion we quote the following general result, valid for any function without any special hypotheses:



      $$(forall X)(X subseteq A implies f(A) setminus f(X) subseteq f(A setminus X))$$



      and we bear in mind that since $f$ is also assumed to be surjective, we automatically have $f(A)=B$.



      To establish the reverse implication, assuming the given relation of equality for any subset $X$ we first infer by 1. that $f$ is injective; its surjectivity we derive by considering the particular case $X= emptyset$, which yields:
      $$f(A setminus emptyset)=f(A)=B setminus f(emptyset)=B setminus emptyset =B$$
      This concludes the proof. $Box$






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        Let us formulate matters more precisely: consider two arbitrary sets $A, B$ and a map $f: A rightarrow B$. We have the following elementary propositions:






        1. $f$ is injective if and only if
          $$(forall X)(X subseteq A implies f(complement_{A}X) subseteq complement_{B}f(X))$$




        Proof : Assuming first the injectivity of $f$, consider arbitrary $X subseteq A$ and $y in f(complement_{A}X)$, such that $y=f(x)$ with $x in A setminus X$. If we were to assume by contradiction that $y in f(X)$ it would entail that $y=f(t)$ for a certain $t in X$; as $y=f(x)=f(t)$ and $f$ is injective, we could conclude $x=t in X$ in contradiction to $x notin X$. Hence $y in B setminus f(X)$ and the inclusion is established.



        Assuming conversely that the stated inclusion holds for any subset $X$, let us consider arbitrary $x, y in A$ with $x neq y$. This means that $y in A setminus {x}$ and thus by our assumption
        $$f({y})={f(y)} subseteq f(A setminus {x})subseteq B setminus f({x})=B setminus {f(x)}$$
        from which we infer that $f(x) neq f(y)$ and conclude $f$ is indeed injective. $Box$






        1. $f$ is bijective if and only if:
          $$(forall X)(X subseteq A implies f(complement_{A}X)=complement_{B}f(X))$$




        Proof : Assume first $f$ is bijective and consider arbitrary $X subseteq A$. Bijectivity comprises injectivity and thus the previous result entails that we have a valid inclusion in the direction specified above. As for the reverse inclusion we quote the following general result, valid for any function without any special hypotheses:



        $$(forall X)(X subseteq A implies f(A) setminus f(X) subseteq f(A setminus X))$$



        and we bear in mind that since $f$ is also assumed to be surjective, we automatically have $f(A)=B$.



        To establish the reverse implication, assuming the given relation of equality for any subset $X$ we first infer by 1. that $f$ is injective; its surjectivity we derive by considering the particular case $X= emptyset$, which yields:
        $$f(A setminus emptyset)=f(A)=B setminus f(emptyset)=B setminus emptyset =B$$
        This concludes the proof. $Box$






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        Let us formulate matters more precisely: consider two arbitrary sets $A, B$ and a map $f: A rightarrow B$. We have the following elementary propositions:






        1. $f$ is injective if and only if
          $$(forall X)(X subseteq A implies f(complement_{A}X) subseteq complement_{B}f(X))$$




        Proof : Assuming first the injectivity of $f$, consider arbitrary $X subseteq A$ and $y in f(complement_{A}X)$, such that $y=f(x)$ with $x in A setminus X$. If we were to assume by contradiction that $y in f(X)$ it would entail that $y=f(t)$ for a certain $t in X$; as $y=f(x)=f(t)$ and $f$ is injective, we could conclude $x=t in X$ in contradiction to $x notin X$. Hence $y in B setminus f(X)$ and the inclusion is established.



        Assuming conversely that the stated inclusion holds for any subset $X$, let us consider arbitrary $x, y in A$ with $x neq y$. This means that $y in A setminus {x}$ and thus by our assumption
        $$f({y})={f(y)} subseteq f(A setminus {x})subseteq B setminus f({x})=B setminus {f(x)}$$
        from which we infer that $f(x) neq f(y)$ and conclude $f$ is indeed injective. $Box$






        1. $f$ is bijective if and only if:
          $$(forall X)(X subseteq A implies f(complement_{A}X)=complement_{B}f(X))$$




        Proof : Assume first $f$ is bijective and consider arbitrary $X subseteq A$. Bijectivity comprises injectivity and thus the previous result entails that we have a valid inclusion in the direction specified above. As for the reverse inclusion we quote the following general result, valid for any function without any special hypotheses:



        $$(forall X)(X subseteq A implies f(A) setminus f(X) subseteq f(A setminus X))$$



        and we bear in mind that since $f$ is also assumed to be surjective, we automatically have $f(A)=B$.



        To establish the reverse implication, assuming the given relation of equality for any subset $X$ we first infer by 1. that $f$ is injective; its surjectivity we derive by considering the particular case $X= emptyset$, which yields:
        $$f(A setminus emptyset)=f(A)=B setminus f(emptyset)=B setminus emptyset =B$$
        This concludes the proof. $Box$







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