Limit with arctan: $lim_{xrightarrow 0} frac{xsin 3x}{arctan x^2}$












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$$lim_{xrightarrow 0} frac{xsin 3x}{arctan x^2}$$



NB! I haven't learnt about L'Hôpital's rule yet, so I'm still solving limits using common limits.



What I've done so far



$$lim_{xrightarrow0}left[frac{x}{arctan x^2}cdot 3xcdot frac{sin 3x}{3x}right] = 0cdot1cdotlim_{xrightarrow0}left[frac{x}{arctan x^2}right] = 0??$$
Obviously I'm wrong, but I thought I'd show what I tried.










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    Do you have this inequality: $sin x leq x leq tan x$ for $x geq 0$? And the limits that follow from it: $sin x / x rightarrow 0$, etc.?
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$$lim_{xrightarrow 0} frac{xsin 3x}{arctan x^2}$$



NB! I haven't learnt about L'Hôpital's rule yet, so I'm still solving limits using common limits.



What I've done so far



$$lim_{xrightarrow0}left[frac{x}{arctan x^2}cdot 3xcdot frac{sin 3x}{3x}right] = 0cdot1cdotlim_{xrightarrow0}left[frac{x}{arctan x^2}right] = 0??$$
Obviously I'm wrong, but I thought I'd show what I tried.










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    Do you have this inequality: $sin x leq x leq tan x$ for $x geq 0$? And the limits that follow from it: $sin x / x rightarrow 0$, etc.?
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    – Simon S
    Nov 3 '14 at 23:46
















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$begingroup$


$$lim_{xrightarrow 0} frac{xsin 3x}{arctan x^2}$$



NB! I haven't learnt about L'Hôpital's rule yet, so I'm still solving limits using common limits.



What I've done so far



$$lim_{xrightarrow0}left[frac{x}{arctan x^2}cdot 3xcdot frac{sin 3x}{3x}right] = 0cdot1cdotlim_{xrightarrow0}left[frac{x}{arctan x^2}right] = 0??$$
Obviously I'm wrong, but I thought I'd show what I tried.










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$$lim_{xrightarrow 0} frac{xsin 3x}{arctan x^2}$$



NB! I haven't learnt about L'Hôpital's rule yet, so I'm still solving limits using common limits.



What I've done so far



$$lim_{xrightarrow0}left[frac{x}{arctan x^2}cdot 3xcdot frac{sin 3x}{3x}right] = 0cdot1cdotlim_{xrightarrow0}left[frac{x}{arctan x^2}right] = 0??$$
Obviously I'm wrong, but I thought I'd show what I tried.







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  • $begingroup$
    Do you have this inequality: $sin x leq x leq tan x$ for $x geq 0$? And the limits that follow from it: $sin x / x rightarrow 0$, etc.?
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    – Simon S
    Nov 3 '14 at 23:46




















  • $begingroup$
    Do you have this inequality: $sin x leq x leq tan x$ for $x geq 0$? And the limits that follow from it: $sin x / x rightarrow 0$, etc.?
    $endgroup$
    – Simon S
    Nov 3 '14 at 23:46


















$begingroup$
Do you have this inequality: $sin x leq x leq tan x$ for $x geq 0$? And the limits that follow from it: $sin x / x rightarrow 0$, etc.?
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– Simon S
Nov 3 '14 at 23:46






$begingroup$
Do you have this inequality: $sin x leq x leq tan x$ for $x geq 0$? And the limits that follow from it: $sin x / x rightarrow 0$, etc.?
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– Simon S
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You should put in
$$
frac{x^2}{arctan x^2}
$$
that has limit $1$:
$$
lim_{xto0}frac{xsin3x}{arctan x^2}=
lim_{xto0}3frac{sin3x}{3x}frac{x^2}{arctan x^2}=dots
$$
If you don't know the limit above, just substitute $t=arctan x^2$, so $x^2=tan t$ and the limit is
$$
lim_{xto0}frac{x^2}{arctan x^2}=lim_{tto0}frac{tan t}{t}
$$
that you should be able to manage.






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    Starting as you did, we want to find the limit of
    $$frac{3x^2}{arctan(x^2)}cdotfrac{sin(3x)}{3x}.$$
    Only the first term gives any trouble. Let $x$ be not too large, and let $x^2=tan w$, You want to find
    $$lim_{wto 0} frac{3tan w}{w},$$
    which is not difficult. Replace $tan w$ by $frac{sin w}{cos w}$.






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      Since $u sim tan u$, then $y sim arctan y$, so $x^2 sim arctan (x^2)$.



      This means that
      $$lim_{x to 0} frac{x sin 3x}{arctan x^2} = lim_{x to 0} frac{x3x}{x^2} = 3$$






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        This feels unsatisfactory, as you are still using the derivatives of the functions in the numerator and denominator.
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      Using the Asymptotic expansion:

      $sin(x)approx_0 x$

      $arctan(x^2) approx_0 x^2$

      So
      $$lim _{xrightarrow :0}:frac{xsin :3x}{arctan :x^2}=lim :_{xrightarrow 0}:frac{3x^2}{x^2}=color{red}{3}$$






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        You should put in
        $$
        frac{x^2}{arctan x^2}
        $$
        that has limit $1$:
        $$
        lim_{xto0}frac{xsin3x}{arctan x^2}=
        lim_{xto0}3frac{sin3x}{3x}frac{x^2}{arctan x^2}=dots
        $$
        If you don't know the limit above, just substitute $t=arctan x^2$, so $x^2=tan t$ and the limit is
        $$
        lim_{xto0}frac{x^2}{arctan x^2}=lim_{tto0}frac{tan t}{t}
        $$
        that you should be able to manage.






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          $begingroup$

          You should put in
          $$
          frac{x^2}{arctan x^2}
          $$
          that has limit $1$:
          $$
          lim_{xto0}frac{xsin3x}{arctan x^2}=
          lim_{xto0}3frac{sin3x}{3x}frac{x^2}{arctan x^2}=dots
          $$
          If you don't know the limit above, just substitute $t=arctan x^2$, so $x^2=tan t$ and the limit is
          $$
          lim_{xto0}frac{x^2}{arctan x^2}=lim_{tto0}frac{tan t}{t}
          $$
          that you should be able to manage.






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            You should put in
            $$
            frac{x^2}{arctan x^2}
            $$
            that has limit $1$:
            $$
            lim_{xto0}frac{xsin3x}{arctan x^2}=
            lim_{xto0}3frac{sin3x}{3x}frac{x^2}{arctan x^2}=dots
            $$
            If you don't know the limit above, just substitute $t=arctan x^2$, so $x^2=tan t$ and the limit is
            $$
            lim_{xto0}frac{x^2}{arctan x^2}=lim_{tto0}frac{tan t}{t}
            $$
            that you should be able to manage.






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            You should put in
            $$
            frac{x^2}{arctan x^2}
            $$
            that has limit $1$:
            $$
            lim_{xto0}frac{xsin3x}{arctan x^2}=
            lim_{xto0}3frac{sin3x}{3x}frac{x^2}{arctan x^2}=dots
            $$
            If you don't know the limit above, just substitute $t=arctan x^2$, so $x^2=tan t$ and the limit is
            $$
            lim_{xto0}frac{x^2}{arctan x^2}=lim_{tto0}frac{tan t}{t}
            $$
            that you should be able to manage.







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                Starting as you did, we want to find the limit of
                $$frac{3x^2}{arctan(x^2)}cdotfrac{sin(3x)}{3x}.$$
                Only the first term gives any trouble. Let $x$ be not too large, and let $x^2=tan w$, You want to find
                $$lim_{wto 0} frac{3tan w}{w},$$
                which is not difficult. Replace $tan w$ by $frac{sin w}{cos w}$.






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                  Starting as you did, we want to find the limit of
                  $$frac{3x^2}{arctan(x^2)}cdotfrac{sin(3x)}{3x}.$$
                  Only the first term gives any trouble. Let $x$ be not too large, and let $x^2=tan w$, You want to find
                  $$lim_{wto 0} frac{3tan w}{w},$$
                  which is not difficult. Replace $tan w$ by $frac{sin w}{cos w}$.






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                    Starting as you did, we want to find the limit of
                    $$frac{3x^2}{arctan(x^2)}cdotfrac{sin(3x)}{3x}.$$
                    Only the first term gives any trouble. Let $x$ be not too large, and let $x^2=tan w$, You want to find
                    $$lim_{wto 0} frac{3tan w}{w},$$
                    which is not difficult. Replace $tan w$ by $frac{sin w}{cos w}$.






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                    Starting as you did, we want to find the limit of
                    $$frac{3x^2}{arctan(x^2)}cdotfrac{sin(3x)}{3x}.$$
                    Only the first term gives any trouble. Let $x$ be not too large, and let $x^2=tan w$, You want to find
                    $$lim_{wto 0} frac{3tan w}{w},$$
                    which is not difficult. Replace $tan w$ by $frac{sin w}{cos w}$.







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                        Since $u sim tan u$, then $y sim arctan y$, so $x^2 sim arctan (x^2)$.



                        This means that
                        $$lim_{x to 0} frac{x sin 3x}{arctan x^2} = lim_{x to 0} frac{x3x}{x^2} = 3$$






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                          This feels unsatisfactory, as you are still using the derivatives of the functions in the numerator and denominator.
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                        Since $u sim tan u$, then $y sim arctan y$, so $x^2 sim arctan (x^2)$.



                        This means that
                        $$lim_{x to 0} frac{x sin 3x}{arctan x^2} = lim_{x to 0} frac{x3x}{x^2} = 3$$






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                          This feels unsatisfactory, as you are still using the derivatives of the functions in the numerator and denominator.
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                          Nov 3 '14 at 23:42














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                        Since $u sim tan u$, then $y sim arctan y$, so $x^2 sim arctan (x^2)$.



                        This means that
                        $$lim_{x to 0} frac{x sin 3x}{arctan x^2} = lim_{x to 0} frac{x3x}{x^2} = 3$$






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                        Since $u sim tan u$, then $y sim arctan y$, so $x^2 sim arctan (x^2)$.



                        This means that
                        $$lim_{x to 0} frac{x sin 3x}{arctan x^2} = lim_{x to 0} frac{x3x}{x^2} = 3$$







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                          This feels unsatisfactory, as you are still using the derivatives of the functions in the numerator and denominator.
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                        • $begingroup$
                          This feels unsatisfactory, as you are still using the derivatives of the functions in the numerator and denominator.
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                          Nov 3 '14 at 23:42
















                        $begingroup$
                        This feels unsatisfactory, as you are still using the derivatives of the functions in the numerator and denominator.
                        $endgroup$
                        – Simon S
                        Nov 3 '14 at 23:42




                        $begingroup$
                        This feels unsatisfactory, as you are still using the derivatives of the functions in the numerator and denominator.
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                        – Simon S
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                        Using the Asymptotic expansion:

                        $sin(x)approx_0 x$

                        $arctan(x^2) approx_0 x^2$

                        So
                        $$lim _{xrightarrow :0}:frac{xsin :3x}{arctan :x^2}=lim :_{xrightarrow 0}:frac{3x^2}{x^2}=color{red}{3}$$






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                          Using the Asymptotic expansion:

                          $sin(x)approx_0 x$

                          $arctan(x^2) approx_0 x^2$

                          So
                          $$lim _{xrightarrow :0}:frac{xsin :3x}{arctan :x^2}=lim :_{xrightarrow 0}:frac{3x^2}{x^2}=color{red}{3}$$






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                            Using the Asymptotic expansion:

                            $sin(x)approx_0 x$

                            $arctan(x^2) approx_0 x^2$

                            So
                            $$lim _{xrightarrow :0}:frac{xsin :3x}{arctan :x^2}=lim :_{xrightarrow 0}:frac{3x^2}{x^2}=color{red}{3}$$






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                            Using the Asymptotic expansion:

                            $sin(x)approx_0 x$

                            $arctan(x^2) approx_0 x^2$

                            So
                            $$lim _{xrightarrow :0}:frac{xsin :3x}{arctan :x^2}=lim :_{xrightarrow 0}:frac{3x^2}{x^2}=color{red}{3}$$







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