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In my book they make the point that: "The method of substitution cannot be force to work".



They then go on to say that: "there is no substitution that will do much good with the integral $int x(2+x^7)^{frac{1}{5}}dx $ "



However, the integral $int x^6(2+x^7)^{frac{1}{5}}dx $ does apparently yield a substitution for $2+x^7$. Where $u=2+x^7$



Why is this? What distinguishes the two, obviously the order of the exponent $x$ and $x^6$ does something. But I am unsure about what.










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    In my book they make the point that: "The method of substitution cannot be force to work".



    They then go on to say that: "there is no substitution that will do much good with the integral $int x(2+x^7)^{frac{1}{5}}dx $ "



    However, the integral $int x^6(2+x^7)^{frac{1}{5}}dx $ does apparently yield a substitution for $2+x^7$. Where $u=2+x^7$



    Why is this? What distinguishes the two, obviously the order of the exponent $x$ and $x^6$ does something. But I am unsure about what.










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      In my book they make the point that: "The method of substitution cannot be force to work".



      They then go on to say that: "there is no substitution that will do much good with the integral $int x(2+x^7)^{frac{1}{5}}dx $ "



      However, the integral $int x^6(2+x^7)^{frac{1}{5}}dx $ does apparently yield a substitution for $2+x^7$. Where $u=2+x^7$



      Why is this? What distinguishes the two, obviously the order of the exponent $x$ and $x^6$ does something. But I am unsure about what.










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      In my book they make the point that: "The method of substitution cannot be force to work".



      They then go on to say that: "there is no substitution that will do much good with the integral $int x(2+x^7)^{frac{1}{5}}dx $ "



      However, the integral $int x^6(2+x^7)^{frac{1}{5}}dx $ does apparently yield a substitution for $2+x^7$. Where $u=2+x^7$



      Why is this? What distinguishes the two, obviously the order of the exponent $x$ and $x^6$ does something. But I am unsure about what.







      calculus integration indefinite-integrals






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          Consider $$z=2+x^7$$
          $$dz=7x^6dx\text{or}$$
          $$x^6dx=dz/7$$
          This means, $$int x^6(2+x^7)^{1/5}dx=intfrac{1}{7} z^{1/5}dz\text{which can easily be calculated to be equal to }frac{5z^{6/5}}{42}.$$
          Note that nothing of this sort could happen in the case $x^1$, since it won't come out to be of the form of the differentiation of $2+x^7$.






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          Consider $$z=2+x^7$$
          $$dz=7x^6dx\text{or}$$
          $$x^6dx=dz/7$$
          This means, $$int x^6(2+x^7)^{1/5}dx=intfrac{1}{7} z^{1/5}dz\text{which can easily be calculated to be equal to }frac{5z^{6/5}}{42}.$$
          Note that nothing of this sort could happen in the case $x^1$, since it won't come out to be of the form of the differentiation of $2+x^7$.






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          Consider $$z=2+x^7$$
          $$dz=7x^6dx\text{or}$$
          $$x^6dx=dz/7$$
          This means, $$int x^6(2+x^7)^{1/5}dx=intfrac{1}{7} z^{1/5}dz\text{which can easily be calculated to be equal to }frac{5z^{6/5}}{42}.$$
          Note that nothing of this sort could happen in the case $x^1$, since it won't come out to be of the form of the differentiation of $2+x^7$.






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          Consider $$z=2+x^7$$
          $$dz=7x^6dx\text{or}$$
          $$x^6dx=dz/7$$
          This means, $$int x^6(2+x^7)^{1/5}dx=intfrac{1}{7} z^{1/5}dz\text{which can easily be calculated to be equal to }frac{5z^{6/5}}{42}.$$
          Note that nothing of this sort could happen in the case $x^1$, since it won't come out to be of the form of the differentiation of $2+x^7$.






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          Consider $$z=2+x^7$$
          $$dz=7x^6dx\text{or}$$
          $$x^6dx=dz/7$$
          This means, $$int x^6(2+x^7)^{1/5}dx=intfrac{1}{7} z^{1/5}dz\text{which can easily be calculated to be equal to }frac{5z^{6/5}}{42}.$$
          Note that nothing of this sort could happen in the case $x^1$, since it won't come out to be of the form of the differentiation of $2+x^7$.







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