Why is $F_n = r^n$ a solution of the difference equation if $r$ satisfies $r^2-r-1=0$?












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The following is from p.4 of https://www.math.ucdavis.edu/~hunter/intro_analysis_pdf/ch3.pdf




The terms in the Fibonacci sequence are uniquely determined by the linear
difference equation



$$F_n − F_{n−1} − F_{n−2} = 0, n ≥ 3$$



with the initial conditions $F_1 = 1, F_2 = 1$.



We see that $F_n = r^n$ is a solution of the difference equation if $r$ satisfies
$r^2 − r − 1 = 0$ which gives $r = phi$ or −$dfrac{1}{phi}$ where $phi = dfrac{1 + sqrt{5}}{2}approx 1.61803$.




I'm unable to see why $F_n = r^n$ is a solution of the difference equation if $r$ satisfies $r^2-r-1=0$.










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    Do you mean $F_n$ not $F^n$? If so, plugging in $F_n=r^n$, we get $r^n-r^{n-1}-r^{n-2}=r^{n-2}(r^2-r-1)=0$ and clearly $rne0$.
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    See the answer at this duplicate.
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    @TheSimpliFire: Yes, I meant $F_n$.
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The following is from p.4 of https://www.math.ucdavis.edu/~hunter/intro_analysis_pdf/ch3.pdf




The terms in the Fibonacci sequence are uniquely determined by the linear
difference equation



$$F_n − F_{n−1} − F_{n−2} = 0, n ≥ 3$$



with the initial conditions $F_1 = 1, F_2 = 1$.



We see that $F_n = r^n$ is a solution of the difference equation if $r$ satisfies
$r^2 − r − 1 = 0$ which gives $r = phi$ or −$dfrac{1}{phi}$ where $phi = dfrac{1 + sqrt{5}}{2}approx 1.61803$.




I'm unable to see why $F_n = r^n$ is a solution of the difference equation if $r$ satisfies $r^2-r-1=0$.










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    Do you mean $F_n$ not $F^n$? If so, plugging in $F_n=r^n$, we get $r^n-r^{n-1}-r^{n-2}=r^{n-2}(r^2-r-1)=0$ and clearly $rne0$.
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    See the answer at this duplicate.
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    – Dietrich Burde
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    @TheSimpliFire: Yes, I meant $F_n$.
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The following is from p.4 of https://www.math.ucdavis.edu/~hunter/intro_analysis_pdf/ch3.pdf




The terms in the Fibonacci sequence are uniquely determined by the linear
difference equation



$$F_n − F_{n−1} − F_{n−2} = 0, n ≥ 3$$



with the initial conditions $F_1 = 1, F_2 = 1$.



We see that $F_n = r^n$ is a solution of the difference equation if $r$ satisfies
$r^2 − r − 1 = 0$ which gives $r = phi$ or −$dfrac{1}{phi}$ where $phi = dfrac{1 + sqrt{5}}{2}approx 1.61803$.




I'm unable to see why $F_n = r^n$ is a solution of the difference equation if $r$ satisfies $r^2-r-1=0$.










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The following is from p.4 of https://www.math.ucdavis.edu/~hunter/intro_analysis_pdf/ch3.pdf




The terms in the Fibonacci sequence are uniquely determined by the linear
difference equation



$$F_n − F_{n−1} − F_{n−2} = 0, n ≥ 3$$



with the initial conditions $F_1 = 1, F_2 = 1$.



We see that $F_n = r^n$ is a solution of the difference equation if $r$ satisfies
$r^2 − r − 1 = 0$ which gives $r = phi$ or −$dfrac{1}{phi}$ where $phi = dfrac{1 + sqrt{5}}{2}approx 1.61803$.




I'm unable to see why $F_n = r^n$ is a solution of the difference equation if $r$ satisfies $r^2-r-1=0$.







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    Do you mean $F_n$ not $F^n$? If so, plugging in $F_n=r^n$, we get $r^n-r^{n-1}-r^{n-2}=r^{n-2}(r^2-r-1)=0$ and clearly $rne0$.
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    See the answer at this duplicate.
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    – Dietrich Burde
    Dec 28 '18 at 19:15










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    @TheSimpliFire: Yes, I meant $F_n$.
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    Do you mean $F_n$ not $F^n$? If so, plugging in $F_n=r^n$, we get $r^n-r^{n-1}-r^{n-2}=r^{n-2}(r^2-r-1)=0$ and clearly $rne0$.
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    – TheSimpliFire
    Dec 28 '18 at 19:12












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    See the answer at this duplicate.
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    – Dietrich Burde
    Dec 28 '18 at 19:15










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    @TheSimpliFire: Yes, I meant $F_n$.
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    – K.M
    Dec 28 '18 at 19:28








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Do you mean $F_n$ not $F^n$? If so, plugging in $F_n=r^n$, we get $r^n-r^{n-1}-r^{n-2}=r^{n-2}(r^2-r-1)=0$ and clearly $rne0$.
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Dec 28 '18 at 19:12






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Do you mean $F_n$ not $F^n$? If so, plugging in $F_n=r^n$, we get $r^n-r^{n-1}-r^{n-2}=r^{n-2}(r^2-r-1)=0$ and clearly $rne0$.
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See the answer at this duplicate.
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– Dietrich Burde
Dec 28 '18 at 19:15




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See the answer at this duplicate.
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@TheSimpliFire: Yes, I meant $F_n$.
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@TheSimpliFire: Yes, I meant $F_n$.
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Hint: Multiply $r^2 − r − 1 = 0$ by $r^{n-2}$.






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    Multiplying $r^2 -r-1=0$ by $r^{n-2}$, I get that $r^{n}-r^{n-1}-r^{n-2}=0$, but I'm not sure how I would get that $F_{n}=r^{n}$ without first assuming that $F_n=r^{n}$ and then plugging this into $r^{n}-r^{n-1}-r^{n-2}=0$
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Usually, the complete solution to a difference equation with two distinct roots in the characteristic equation is in the form $$A{r_1}^n + B{r_2}^n$$.



In your case, the distinct roots for $r_1$ and $r_2$ are $phi = dfrac {1+sqrt{5}}{2}$ and $-dfrac {1}{phi} = dfrac {1-sqrt{5}}{2}$. Thus the complete solution is $$F_n = dfrac {1}{sqrt {5}} left (phi^n - dfrac {1}{phi}^n right)$$






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    Hint: Multiply $r^2 − r − 1 = 0$ by $r^{n-2}$.






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      Multiplying $r^2 -r-1=0$ by $r^{n-2}$, I get that $r^{n}-r^{n-1}-r^{n-2}=0$, but I'm not sure how I would get that $F_{n}=r^{n}$ without first assuming that $F_n=r^{n}$ and then plugging this into $r^{n}-r^{n-1}-r^{n-2}=0$
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    Hint: Multiply $r^2 − r − 1 = 0$ by $r^{n-2}$.






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      Multiplying $r^2 -r-1=0$ by $r^{n-2}$, I get that $r^{n}-r^{n-1}-r^{n-2}=0$, but I'm not sure how I would get that $F_{n}=r^{n}$ without first assuming that $F_n=r^{n}$ and then plugging this into $r^{n}-r^{n-1}-r^{n-2}=0$
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    Hint: Multiply $r^2 − r − 1 = 0$ by $r^{n-2}$.







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      Multiplying $r^2 -r-1=0$ by $r^{n-2}$, I get that $r^{n}-r^{n-1}-r^{n-2}=0$, but I'm not sure how I would get that $F_{n}=r^{n}$ without first assuming that $F_n=r^{n}$ and then plugging this into $r^{n}-r^{n-1}-r^{n-2}=0$
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      Multiplying $r^2 -r-1=0$ by $r^{n-2}$, I get that $r^{n}-r^{n-1}-r^{n-2}=0$, but I'm not sure how I would get that $F_{n}=r^{n}$ without first assuming that $F_n=r^{n}$ and then plugging this into $r^{n}-r^{n-1}-r^{n-2}=0$
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    $begingroup$
    Multiplying $r^2 -r-1=0$ by $r^{n-2}$, I get that $r^{n}-r^{n-1}-r^{n-2}=0$, but I'm not sure how I would get that $F_{n}=r^{n}$ without first assuming that $F_n=r^{n}$ and then plugging this into $r^{n}-r^{n-1}-r^{n-2}=0$
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    – K.M
    Dec 29 '18 at 21:14




    $begingroup$
    Multiplying $r^2 -r-1=0$ by $r^{n-2}$, I get that $r^{n}-r^{n-1}-r^{n-2}=0$, but I'm not sure how I would get that $F_{n}=r^{n}$ without first assuming that $F_n=r^{n}$ and then plugging this into $r^{n}-r^{n-1}-r^{n-2}=0$
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    – K.M
    Dec 29 '18 at 21:14











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    Usually, the complete solution to a difference equation with two distinct roots in the characteristic equation is in the form $$A{r_1}^n + B{r_2}^n$$.



    In your case, the distinct roots for $r_1$ and $r_2$ are $phi = dfrac {1+sqrt{5}}{2}$ and $-dfrac {1}{phi} = dfrac {1-sqrt{5}}{2}$. Thus the complete solution is $$F_n = dfrac {1}{sqrt {5}} left (phi^n - dfrac {1}{phi}^n right)$$






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      Usually, the complete solution to a difference equation with two distinct roots in the characteristic equation is in the form $$A{r_1}^n + B{r_2}^n$$.



      In your case, the distinct roots for $r_1$ and $r_2$ are $phi = dfrac {1+sqrt{5}}{2}$ and $-dfrac {1}{phi} = dfrac {1-sqrt{5}}{2}$. Thus the complete solution is $$F_n = dfrac {1}{sqrt {5}} left (phi^n - dfrac {1}{phi}^n right)$$






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        Usually, the complete solution to a difference equation with two distinct roots in the characteristic equation is in the form $$A{r_1}^n + B{r_2}^n$$.



        In your case, the distinct roots for $r_1$ and $r_2$ are $phi = dfrac {1+sqrt{5}}{2}$ and $-dfrac {1}{phi} = dfrac {1-sqrt{5}}{2}$. Thus the complete solution is $$F_n = dfrac {1}{sqrt {5}} left (phi^n - dfrac {1}{phi}^n right)$$






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        Usually, the complete solution to a difference equation with two distinct roots in the characteristic equation is in the form $$A{r_1}^n + B{r_2}^n$$.



        In your case, the distinct roots for $r_1$ and $r_2$ are $phi = dfrac {1+sqrt{5}}{2}$ and $-dfrac {1}{phi} = dfrac {1-sqrt{5}}{2}$. Thus the complete solution is $$F_n = dfrac {1}{sqrt {5}} left (phi^n - dfrac {1}{phi}^n right)$$







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