For every closed neighborhood $Delta_Xsubset D$ , Is there an entourage $U$ with $Usubseteq D$?












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Let $(X, mathcal{U})$ be an uniform space. It is known that every entourage $Uinmathcal{U}$ is a neighborhood of $Delta_X$, but the converse is not true, in general.



What can say about closed neighborhood of $Delta_X$? Is it true that for a closed neighborhood $Dneq Delta_X$ of $Delta_X$, there is $Uinmathcal{U}$ with $Usubseteq D$?



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    Let $(X, mathcal{U})$ be an uniform space. It is known that every entourage $Uinmathcal{U}$ is a neighborhood of $Delta_X$, but the converse is not true, in general.



    What can say about closed neighborhood of $Delta_X$? Is it true that for a closed neighborhood $Dneq Delta_X$ of $Delta_X$, there is $Uinmathcal{U}$ with $Usubseteq D$?



    Thanks a lot.










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      Let $(X, mathcal{U})$ be an uniform space. It is known that every entourage $Uinmathcal{U}$ is a neighborhood of $Delta_X$, but the converse is not true, in general.



      What can say about closed neighborhood of $Delta_X$? Is it true that for a closed neighborhood $Dneq Delta_X$ of $Delta_X$, there is $Uinmathcal{U}$ with $Usubseteq D$?



      Thanks a lot.










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      Let $(X, mathcal{U})$ be an uniform space. It is known that every entourage $Uinmathcal{U}$ is a neighborhood of $Delta_X$, but the converse is not true, in general.



      What can say about closed neighborhood of $Delta_X$? Is it true that for a closed neighborhood $Dneq Delta_X$ of $Delta_X$, there is $Uinmathcal{U}$ with $Usubseteq D$?



      Thanks a lot.







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          No, that's not true in general. Consider $mathbb{R}$ with its standard uniform structure. Let$$D^star=left{(x,y)inmathbb{R}^2,middle|,-frac1{1+x^2}leqslant yleqslantfrac1{1+x^2}right}$$and let $D$ be what you obtain when you apply to $D^star$ a rotation of $fracpi4$ radians around the origin. Then $D$ is a closed neighborhood of $Delta_{mathbb R}$, but it contains no entourage.






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            Show that in a separated uniform space: If we have a neighbourhood $U$ of $Delta_X$ that is no entourage, then $overline{U}$ is a closed neighbourhood of $Delta_X$ that contains no entourage.






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              No, that's not true in general. Consider $mathbb{R}$ with its standard uniform structure. Let$$D^star=left{(x,y)inmathbb{R}^2,middle|,-frac1{1+x^2}leqslant yleqslantfrac1{1+x^2}right}$$and let $D$ be what you obtain when you apply to $D^star$ a rotation of $fracpi4$ radians around the origin. Then $D$ is a closed neighborhood of $Delta_{mathbb R}$, but it contains no entourage.






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                No, that's not true in general. Consider $mathbb{R}$ with its standard uniform structure. Let$$D^star=left{(x,y)inmathbb{R}^2,middle|,-frac1{1+x^2}leqslant yleqslantfrac1{1+x^2}right}$$and let $D$ be what you obtain when you apply to $D^star$ a rotation of $fracpi4$ radians around the origin. Then $D$ is a closed neighborhood of $Delta_{mathbb R}$, but it contains no entourage.






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                  No, that's not true in general. Consider $mathbb{R}$ with its standard uniform structure. Let$$D^star=left{(x,y)inmathbb{R}^2,middle|,-frac1{1+x^2}leqslant yleqslantfrac1{1+x^2}right}$$and let $D$ be what you obtain when you apply to $D^star$ a rotation of $fracpi4$ radians around the origin. Then $D$ is a closed neighborhood of $Delta_{mathbb R}$, but it contains no entourage.






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                  No, that's not true in general. Consider $mathbb{R}$ with its standard uniform structure. Let$$D^star=left{(x,y)inmathbb{R}^2,middle|,-frac1{1+x^2}leqslant yleqslantfrac1{1+x^2}right}$$and let $D$ be what you obtain when you apply to $D^star$ a rotation of $fracpi4$ radians around the origin. Then $D$ is a closed neighborhood of $Delta_{mathbb R}$, but it contains no entourage.







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                      Show that in a separated uniform space: If we have a neighbourhood $U$ of $Delta_X$ that is no entourage, then $overline{U}$ is a closed neighbourhood of $Delta_X$ that contains no entourage.






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                        Show that in a separated uniform space: If we have a neighbourhood $U$ of $Delta_X$ that is no entourage, then $overline{U}$ is a closed neighbourhood of $Delta_X$ that contains no entourage.






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                          Show that in a separated uniform space: If we have a neighbourhood $U$ of $Delta_X$ that is no entourage, then $overline{U}$ is a closed neighbourhood of $Delta_X$ that contains no entourage.






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                          Show that in a separated uniform space: If we have a neighbourhood $U$ of $Delta_X$ that is no entourage, then $overline{U}$ is a closed neighbourhood of $Delta_X$ that contains no entourage.







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