circle inside an ellipse with fixed width but variable length
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Inside an ellipse with width 'a' and length 'b', there is a circle. The circle touches the point (-a,0), which means circle touches the edge of the ellipse but ellipse doesn't cut through the circle. I need to find the minimum value or the range of 'b' when the radius of the circle is 'r' and 'a'='R'. How do I do it? note: a_0=R-r
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Inside an ellipse with width 'a' and length 'b', there is a circle. The circle touches the point (-a,0), which means circle touches the edge of the ellipse but ellipse doesn't cut through the circle. I need to find the minimum value or the range of 'b' when the radius of the circle is 'r' and 'a'='R'. How do I do it? note: a_0=R-r
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If you were given the value of $b$ as well as $a,$ do you know how you could compute the radius of curvature of the ellipse at $(-a,0)$?
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– David K
Jan 10 at 16:20
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Hint: Show that the center of the circle lies on a focus of the ellipse.
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Inside an ellipse with width 'a' and length 'b', there is a circle. The circle touches the point (-a,0), which means circle touches the edge of the ellipse but ellipse doesn't cut through the circle. I need to find the minimum value or the range of 'b' when the radius of the circle is 'r' and 'a'='R'. How do I do it? note: a_0=R-r
geometry functions
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Inside an ellipse with width 'a' and length 'b', there is a circle. The circle touches the point (-a,0), which means circle touches the edge of the ellipse but ellipse doesn't cut through the circle. I need to find the minimum value or the range of 'b' when the radius of the circle is 'r' and 'a'='R'. How do I do it? note: a_0=R-r
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If you were given the value of $b$ as well as $a,$ do you know how you could compute the radius of curvature of the ellipse at $(-a,0)$?
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– David K
Jan 10 at 16:20
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Hint: Show that the center of the circle lies on a focus of the ellipse.
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– amd
Jan 11 at 2:16
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If you were given the value of $b$ as well as $a,$ do you know how you could compute the radius of curvature of the ellipse at $(-a,0)$?
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– David K
Jan 10 at 16:20
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Hint: Show that the center of the circle lies on a focus of the ellipse.
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– amd
Jan 11 at 2:16
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If you were given the value of $b$ as well as $a,$ do you know how you could compute the radius of curvature of the ellipse at $(-a,0)$?
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– David K
Jan 10 at 16:20
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If you were given the value of $b$ as well as $a,$ do you know how you could compute the radius of curvature of the ellipse at $(-a,0)$?
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– David K
Jan 10 at 16:20
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Hint: Show that the center of the circle lies on a focus of the ellipse.
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– amd
Jan 11 at 2:16
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Hint: Show that the center of the circle lies on a focus of the ellipse.
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The smallest value of $b$ is that leading to tangency between ellipse and circle.
Write down the equations of the ellipse and circle, eliminate $y^2$ to get a single quadratic equation in $x$. Ellipse and circle are tangent when that equation has a single solution, i.e. when its discriminant vanishes.
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The smallest value of $b$ is that leading to tangency between ellipse and circle.
Write down the equations of the ellipse and circle, eliminate $y^2$ to get a single quadratic equation in $x$. Ellipse and circle are tangent when that equation has a single solution, i.e. when its discriminant vanishes.
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The smallest value of $b$ is that leading to tangency between ellipse and circle.
Write down the equations of the ellipse and circle, eliminate $y^2$ to get a single quadratic equation in $x$. Ellipse and circle are tangent when that equation has a single solution, i.e. when its discriminant vanishes.
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The smallest value of $b$ is that leading to tangency between ellipse and circle.
Write down the equations of the ellipse and circle, eliminate $y^2$ to get a single quadratic equation in $x$. Ellipse and circle are tangent when that equation has a single solution, i.e. when its discriminant vanishes.
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The smallest value of $b$ is that leading to tangency between ellipse and circle.
Write down the equations of the ellipse and circle, eliminate $y^2$ to get a single quadratic equation in $x$. Ellipse and circle are tangent when that equation has a single solution, i.e. when its discriminant vanishes.
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If you were given the value of $b$ as well as $a,$ do you know how you could compute the radius of curvature of the ellipse at $(-a,0)$?
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Hint: Show that the center of the circle lies on a focus of the ellipse.
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