Rudin's functional analysis theorem 3.12
$begingroup$
Suppose $E$ is a convex subset of a locally convex space $X$. Then the weak closure $overline{E}_w$ of $E$ is equal to its original closure $overline{E}$.
The proof starts as follows
$overline{E}_w$ is weakly closed, hence originally closed, so that $overline{E} subset overline{E}_w$.
I don't get that inclusion, could anyone expound it please?
The proof also continues for the opposite inclusion, but I don't get that either
To obtain the poosite inclusion, choose $x_0 in X, x_0 notin overline{E}$. Part (b) of the separation theorem 3.4 shows that there exists $Lambda in X^*$ and $gamma in mathbb{R}$ such that, for every $x in overline{E}$
$$
Re ; Lambda x_0 < gamma < Re ; Lambda x
$$
The set $left{ x : Re ; Lambda x < gamma right}$ is therefore a weak neighborhood of $x_0$ that does not intersect $E$, thus $x_0 notin overline{E}_w$. This proves $overline{E}_w subset overline{E}$
functional-analysis proof-explanation topological-vector-spaces weak-topology
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Suppose $E$ is a convex subset of a locally convex space $X$. Then the weak closure $overline{E}_w$ of $E$ is equal to its original closure $overline{E}$.
The proof starts as follows
$overline{E}_w$ is weakly closed, hence originally closed, so that $overline{E} subset overline{E}_w$.
I don't get that inclusion, could anyone expound it please?
The proof also continues for the opposite inclusion, but I don't get that either
To obtain the poosite inclusion, choose $x_0 in X, x_0 notin overline{E}$. Part (b) of the separation theorem 3.4 shows that there exists $Lambda in X^*$ and $gamma in mathbb{R}$ such that, for every $x in overline{E}$
$$
Re ; Lambda x_0 < gamma < Re ; Lambda x
$$
The set $left{ x : Re ; Lambda x < gamma right}$ is therefore a weak neighborhood of $x_0$ that does not intersect $E$, thus $x_0 notin overline{E}_w$. This proves $overline{E}_w subset overline{E}$
functional-analysis proof-explanation topological-vector-spaces weak-topology
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Suppose $E$ is a convex subset of a locally convex space $X$. Then the weak closure $overline{E}_w$ of $E$ is equal to its original closure $overline{E}$.
The proof starts as follows
$overline{E}_w$ is weakly closed, hence originally closed, so that $overline{E} subset overline{E}_w$.
I don't get that inclusion, could anyone expound it please?
The proof also continues for the opposite inclusion, but I don't get that either
To obtain the poosite inclusion, choose $x_0 in X, x_0 notin overline{E}$. Part (b) of the separation theorem 3.4 shows that there exists $Lambda in X^*$ and $gamma in mathbb{R}$ such that, for every $x in overline{E}$
$$
Re ; Lambda x_0 < gamma < Re ; Lambda x
$$
The set $left{ x : Re ; Lambda x < gamma right}$ is therefore a weak neighborhood of $x_0$ that does not intersect $E$, thus $x_0 notin overline{E}_w$. This proves $overline{E}_w subset overline{E}$
functional-analysis proof-explanation topological-vector-spaces weak-topology
$endgroup$
Suppose $E$ is a convex subset of a locally convex space $X$. Then the weak closure $overline{E}_w$ of $E$ is equal to its original closure $overline{E}$.
The proof starts as follows
$overline{E}_w$ is weakly closed, hence originally closed, so that $overline{E} subset overline{E}_w$.
I don't get that inclusion, could anyone expound it please?
The proof also continues for the opposite inclusion, but I don't get that either
To obtain the poosite inclusion, choose $x_0 in X, x_0 notin overline{E}$. Part (b) of the separation theorem 3.4 shows that there exists $Lambda in X^*$ and $gamma in mathbb{R}$ such that, for every $x in overline{E}$
$$
Re ; Lambda x_0 < gamma < Re ; Lambda x
$$
The set $left{ x : Re ; Lambda x < gamma right}$ is therefore a weak neighborhood of $x_0$ that does not intersect $E$, thus $x_0 notin overline{E}_w$. This proves $overline{E}_w subset overline{E}$
functional-analysis proof-explanation topological-vector-spaces weak-topology
functional-analysis proof-explanation topological-vector-spaces weak-topology
edited Jan 10 at 12:02
user8469759
asked Jan 10 at 11:51
user8469759user8469759
1,5681618
1,5681618
add a comment |
add a comment |
2 Answers
2
active
oldest
votes
$begingroup$
First, the weak topology is weaker than the original topology
(it has fewer open and closed sets).
This means that every weakly closed set is also a closed set.
Second, the closure of $E$ is the smallest closed set that contains $E$.
Since the weak closure of $E$ contains $E$ and is closed, it must include the closure of $E$.
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
I know this might appear silly, but why the weak closure of $E$ contains $E$? For some reason this going back and forth between weak topology and original topology drives me crazy.
$endgroup$
– user8469759
Jan 10 at 12:06
$begingroup$
the weak closure is defined as the smallest weakly closed set that contains $E$. So by definition, it has to contain $E$.
$endgroup$
– supinf
Jan 10 at 12:07
1
$begingroup$
How about the other inclusion?
$endgroup$
– user8469759
Jan 10 at 12:09
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Second part: ${x: Re Lambda x <gamma}$ is the inverse image under $Lambda$ of ${zin mathbb C: Re z <gamma}$ which is open in $mathbb C$. Since each continuous linear functional is continuous for the weak topology this inverse image is an open set in the weak topology. This open set contains $x_0$ but it contains no point of $E$ (because $Re Lambda x >gamma$ for all $x in E$). This implies that it cannot belong to the weak closure of $E$. Hence $x_onotin overline {E}$ implies $x_0$ does not belong to weak closure of $E$. In other words, weak closure of $E$ is a subset of $overline {E}$.
$endgroup$
add a comment |
Your Answer
StackExchange.ifUsing("editor", function () {
return StackExchange.using("mathjaxEditing", function () {
StackExchange.MarkdownEditor.creationCallbacks.add(function (editor, postfix) {
StackExchange.mathjaxEditing.prepareWmdForMathJax(editor, postfix, [["$", "$"], ["\\(","\\)"]]);
});
});
}, "mathjax-editing");
StackExchange.ready(function() {
var channelOptions = {
tags: "".split(" "),
id: "69"
};
initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);
StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function() {
// Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled) {
StackExchange.using("snippets", function() {
createEditor();
});
}
else {
createEditor();
}
});
function createEditor() {
StackExchange.prepareEditor({
heartbeatType: 'answer',
autoActivateHeartbeat: false,
convertImagesToLinks: true,
noModals: true,
showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
reputationToPostImages: 10,
bindNavPrevention: true,
postfix: "",
imageUploader: {
brandingHtml: "Powered by u003ca class="icon-imgur-white" href="https://imgur.com/"u003eu003c/au003e",
contentPolicyHtml: "User contributions licensed under u003ca href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"u003ecc by-sa 3.0 with attribution requiredu003c/au003e u003ca href="https://stackoverflow.com/legal/content-policy"u003e(content policy)u003c/au003e",
allowUrls: true
},
noCode: true, onDemand: true,
discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
});
}
});
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
StackExchange.ready(
function () {
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f3068538%2frudins-functional-analysis-theorem-3-12%23new-answer', 'question_page');
}
);
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
2 Answers
2
active
oldest
votes
2 Answers
2
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
$begingroup$
First, the weak topology is weaker than the original topology
(it has fewer open and closed sets).
This means that every weakly closed set is also a closed set.
Second, the closure of $E$ is the smallest closed set that contains $E$.
Since the weak closure of $E$ contains $E$ and is closed, it must include the closure of $E$.
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
I know this might appear silly, but why the weak closure of $E$ contains $E$? For some reason this going back and forth between weak topology and original topology drives me crazy.
$endgroup$
– user8469759
Jan 10 at 12:06
$begingroup$
the weak closure is defined as the smallest weakly closed set that contains $E$. So by definition, it has to contain $E$.
$endgroup$
– supinf
Jan 10 at 12:07
1
$begingroup$
How about the other inclusion?
$endgroup$
– user8469759
Jan 10 at 12:09
add a comment |
$begingroup$
First, the weak topology is weaker than the original topology
(it has fewer open and closed sets).
This means that every weakly closed set is also a closed set.
Second, the closure of $E$ is the smallest closed set that contains $E$.
Since the weak closure of $E$ contains $E$ and is closed, it must include the closure of $E$.
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
I know this might appear silly, but why the weak closure of $E$ contains $E$? For some reason this going back and forth between weak topology and original topology drives me crazy.
$endgroup$
– user8469759
Jan 10 at 12:06
$begingroup$
the weak closure is defined as the smallest weakly closed set that contains $E$. So by definition, it has to contain $E$.
$endgroup$
– supinf
Jan 10 at 12:07
1
$begingroup$
How about the other inclusion?
$endgroup$
– user8469759
Jan 10 at 12:09
add a comment |
$begingroup$
First, the weak topology is weaker than the original topology
(it has fewer open and closed sets).
This means that every weakly closed set is also a closed set.
Second, the closure of $E$ is the smallest closed set that contains $E$.
Since the weak closure of $E$ contains $E$ and is closed, it must include the closure of $E$.
$endgroup$
First, the weak topology is weaker than the original topology
(it has fewer open and closed sets).
This means that every weakly closed set is also a closed set.
Second, the closure of $E$ is the smallest closed set that contains $E$.
Since the weak closure of $E$ contains $E$ and is closed, it must include the closure of $E$.
answered Jan 10 at 12:02
supinfsupinf
6,7561129
6,7561129
$begingroup$
I know this might appear silly, but why the weak closure of $E$ contains $E$? For some reason this going back and forth between weak topology and original topology drives me crazy.
$endgroup$
– user8469759
Jan 10 at 12:06
$begingroup$
the weak closure is defined as the smallest weakly closed set that contains $E$. So by definition, it has to contain $E$.
$endgroup$
– supinf
Jan 10 at 12:07
1
$begingroup$
How about the other inclusion?
$endgroup$
– user8469759
Jan 10 at 12:09
add a comment |
$begingroup$
I know this might appear silly, but why the weak closure of $E$ contains $E$? For some reason this going back and forth between weak topology and original topology drives me crazy.
$endgroup$
– user8469759
Jan 10 at 12:06
$begingroup$
the weak closure is defined as the smallest weakly closed set that contains $E$. So by definition, it has to contain $E$.
$endgroup$
– supinf
Jan 10 at 12:07
1
$begingroup$
How about the other inclusion?
$endgroup$
– user8469759
Jan 10 at 12:09
$begingroup$
I know this might appear silly, but why the weak closure of $E$ contains $E$? For some reason this going back and forth between weak topology and original topology drives me crazy.
$endgroup$
– user8469759
Jan 10 at 12:06
$begingroup$
I know this might appear silly, but why the weak closure of $E$ contains $E$? For some reason this going back and forth between weak topology and original topology drives me crazy.
$endgroup$
– user8469759
Jan 10 at 12:06
$begingroup$
the weak closure is defined as the smallest weakly closed set that contains $E$. So by definition, it has to contain $E$.
$endgroup$
– supinf
Jan 10 at 12:07
$begingroup$
the weak closure is defined as the smallest weakly closed set that contains $E$. So by definition, it has to contain $E$.
$endgroup$
– supinf
Jan 10 at 12:07
1
1
$begingroup$
How about the other inclusion?
$endgroup$
– user8469759
Jan 10 at 12:09
$begingroup$
How about the other inclusion?
$endgroup$
– user8469759
Jan 10 at 12:09
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Second part: ${x: Re Lambda x <gamma}$ is the inverse image under $Lambda$ of ${zin mathbb C: Re z <gamma}$ which is open in $mathbb C$. Since each continuous linear functional is continuous for the weak topology this inverse image is an open set in the weak topology. This open set contains $x_0$ but it contains no point of $E$ (because $Re Lambda x >gamma$ for all $x in E$). This implies that it cannot belong to the weak closure of $E$. Hence $x_onotin overline {E}$ implies $x_0$ does not belong to weak closure of $E$. In other words, weak closure of $E$ is a subset of $overline {E}$.
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Second part: ${x: Re Lambda x <gamma}$ is the inverse image under $Lambda$ of ${zin mathbb C: Re z <gamma}$ which is open in $mathbb C$. Since each continuous linear functional is continuous for the weak topology this inverse image is an open set in the weak topology. This open set contains $x_0$ but it contains no point of $E$ (because $Re Lambda x >gamma$ for all $x in E$). This implies that it cannot belong to the weak closure of $E$. Hence $x_onotin overline {E}$ implies $x_0$ does not belong to weak closure of $E$. In other words, weak closure of $E$ is a subset of $overline {E}$.
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Second part: ${x: Re Lambda x <gamma}$ is the inverse image under $Lambda$ of ${zin mathbb C: Re z <gamma}$ which is open in $mathbb C$. Since each continuous linear functional is continuous for the weak topology this inverse image is an open set in the weak topology. This open set contains $x_0$ but it contains no point of $E$ (because $Re Lambda x >gamma$ for all $x in E$). This implies that it cannot belong to the weak closure of $E$. Hence $x_onotin overline {E}$ implies $x_0$ does not belong to weak closure of $E$. In other words, weak closure of $E$ is a subset of $overline {E}$.
$endgroup$
Second part: ${x: Re Lambda x <gamma}$ is the inverse image under $Lambda$ of ${zin mathbb C: Re z <gamma}$ which is open in $mathbb C$. Since each continuous linear functional is continuous for the weak topology this inverse image is an open set in the weak topology. This open set contains $x_0$ but it contains no point of $E$ (because $Re Lambda x >gamma$ for all $x in E$). This implies that it cannot belong to the weak closure of $E$. Hence $x_onotin overline {E}$ implies $x_0$ does not belong to weak closure of $E$. In other words, weak closure of $E$ is a subset of $overline {E}$.
answered Jan 10 at 12:31
Kavi Rama MurthyKavi Rama Murthy
72.9k53170
72.9k53170
add a comment |
add a comment |
Thanks for contributing an answer to Mathematics Stack Exchange!
- Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!
But avoid …
- Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.
- Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.
Use MathJax to format equations. MathJax reference.
To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
StackExchange.ready(
function () {
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f3068538%2frudins-functional-analysis-theorem-3-12%23new-answer', 'question_page');
}
);
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown