Transitive Probability Constraints Take 2
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We know that $P(B|A)$ and $P(C|B)$ don't generally constraint $P(C|A)$. But do $P(B|A)$, $P(neg A|neg B)$, $P(C|B)$, $P(neg B|neg C)$ jointly constrain $P(C|A)$ and $P(neg A|neg C)$? In particular, let $t > frac{1}{2}$ be such that
$t leq$ $P(B|A)$, $P(neg A|neg B)$, $P(C|B)$, $P(neg B|neg C)$.
What does this tell us about $P(C|A)$ and $P(neg A|neg C)$? In particular, does it imply $P(C|A)$, $P(neg A|neg C)$ $leq 1 - t$ can't both hold?
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We know that $P(B|A)$ and $P(C|B)$ don't generally constraint $P(C|A)$. But do $P(B|A)$, $P(neg A|neg B)$, $P(C|B)$, $P(neg B|neg C)$ jointly constrain $P(C|A)$ and $P(neg A|neg C)$? In particular, let $t > frac{1}{2}$ be such that
$t leq$ $P(B|A)$, $P(neg A|neg B)$, $P(C|B)$, $P(neg B|neg C)$.
What does this tell us about $P(C|A)$ and $P(neg A|neg C)$? In particular, does it imply $P(C|A)$, $P(neg A|neg C)$ $leq 1 - t$ can't both hold?
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We know that $P(B|A)$ and $P(C|B)$ don't generally constraint $P(C|A)$. But do $P(B|A)$, $P(neg A|neg B)$, $P(C|B)$, $P(neg B|neg C)$ jointly constrain $P(C|A)$ and $P(neg A|neg C)$? In particular, let $t > frac{1}{2}$ be such that
$t leq$ $P(B|A)$, $P(neg A|neg B)$, $P(C|B)$, $P(neg B|neg C)$.
What does this tell us about $P(C|A)$ and $P(neg A|neg C)$? In particular, does it imply $P(C|A)$, $P(neg A|neg C)$ $leq 1 - t$ can't both hold?
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We know that $P(B|A)$ and $P(C|B)$ don't generally constraint $P(C|A)$. But do $P(B|A)$, $P(neg A|neg B)$, $P(C|B)$, $P(neg B|neg C)$ jointly constrain $P(C|A)$ and $P(neg A|neg C)$? In particular, let $t > frac{1}{2}$ be such that
$t leq$ $P(B|A)$, $P(neg A|neg B)$, $P(C|B)$, $P(neg B|neg C)$.
What does this tell us about $P(C|A)$ and $P(neg A|neg C)$? In particular, does it imply $P(C|A)$, $P(neg A|neg C)$ $leq 1 - t$ can't both hold?
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(-----Answer to the old question-----)
Consider the probability function $P$ that assigns the following probabilities to atomic events:
$$P(neg A wedge B wedge C) = frac{2}{3}$$
$$P(A wedge B wedge neg C) = frac{1}{12}$$
$$P(neg A wedge neg B wedge C) = frac{1}{12}$$
$$P(neg A wedge neg B wedge neg C) = frac{1}{6}$$
The other atomic events get null probability by the function $P$.
With such assignment we have that $P(B|A)=1$, $P(C|B)=frac{8}{9}$, $P(neg A|neg B)=1$ and $P(neg B|neg C)=frac{2}{3}$. Note that $P(C|A)=0$ under the distribution $P$. Therefore, the implication you suggest does not hold (take $t=frac{2}{3}$, for example).
fantastic, thanks a lot. I now realise that the property i'm after is actually a little different. I want to know whether $t leq P(C|B), P(neg B|neg C), P(B|A), P(neg A|neg B)$ guarantees that $P(C|A)$, $P(neg A|neg C) leq 1 - t$ can't both hold. I'm editing the question to reflect this. My apologies for the mistake.
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1 Answer
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(-----Answer to the old question-----)
Consider the probability function $P$ that assigns the following probabilities to atomic events:
$$P(neg A wedge B wedge C) = frac{2}{3}$$
$$P(A wedge B wedge neg C) = frac{1}{12}$$
$$P(neg A wedge neg B wedge C) = frac{1}{12}$$
$$P(neg A wedge neg B wedge neg C) = frac{1}{6}$$
The other atomic events get null probability by the function $P$.
With such assignment we have that $P(B|A)=1$, $P(C|B)=frac{8}{9}$, $P(neg A|neg B)=1$ and $P(neg B|neg C)=frac{2}{3}$. Note that $P(C|A)=0$ under the distribution $P$. Therefore, the implication you suggest does not hold (take $t=frac{2}{3}$, for example).
fantastic, thanks a lot. I now realise that the property i'm after is actually a little different. I want to know whether $t leq P(C|B), P(neg B|neg C), P(B|A), P(neg A|neg B)$ guarantees that $P(C|A)$, $P(neg A|neg C) leq 1 - t$ can't both hold. I'm editing the question to reflect this. My apologies for the mistake.
– King Kong
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(-----Answer to the old question-----)
Consider the probability function $P$ that assigns the following probabilities to atomic events:
$$P(neg A wedge B wedge C) = frac{2}{3}$$
$$P(A wedge B wedge neg C) = frac{1}{12}$$
$$P(neg A wedge neg B wedge C) = frac{1}{12}$$
$$P(neg A wedge neg B wedge neg C) = frac{1}{6}$$
The other atomic events get null probability by the function $P$.
With such assignment we have that $P(B|A)=1$, $P(C|B)=frac{8}{9}$, $P(neg A|neg B)=1$ and $P(neg B|neg C)=frac{2}{3}$. Note that $P(C|A)=0$ under the distribution $P$. Therefore, the implication you suggest does not hold (take $t=frac{2}{3}$, for example).
fantastic, thanks a lot. I now realise that the property i'm after is actually a little different. I want to know whether $t leq P(C|B), P(neg B|neg C), P(B|A), P(neg A|neg B)$ guarantees that $P(C|A)$, $P(neg A|neg C) leq 1 - t$ can't both hold. I'm editing the question to reflect this. My apologies for the mistake.
– King Kong
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(-----Answer to the old question-----)
Consider the probability function $P$ that assigns the following probabilities to atomic events:
$$P(neg A wedge B wedge C) = frac{2}{3}$$
$$P(A wedge B wedge neg C) = frac{1}{12}$$
$$P(neg A wedge neg B wedge C) = frac{1}{12}$$
$$P(neg A wedge neg B wedge neg C) = frac{1}{6}$$
The other atomic events get null probability by the function $P$.
With such assignment we have that $P(B|A)=1$, $P(C|B)=frac{8}{9}$, $P(neg A|neg B)=1$ and $P(neg B|neg C)=frac{2}{3}$. Note that $P(C|A)=0$ under the distribution $P$. Therefore, the implication you suggest does not hold (take $t=frac{2}{3}$, for example).
(-----Answer to the old question-----)
Consider the probability function $P$ that assigns the following probabilities to atomic events:
$$P(neg A wedge B wedge C) = frac{2}{3}$$
$$P(A wedge B wedge neg C) = frac{1}{12}$$
$$P(neg A wedge neg B wedge C) = frac{1}{12}$$
$$P(neg A wedge neg B wedge neg C) = frac{1}{6}$$
The other atomic events get null probability by the function $P$.
With such assignment we have that $P(B|A)=1$, $P(C|B)=frac{8}{9}$, $P(neg A|neg B)=1$ and $P(neg B|neg C)=frac{2}{3}$. Note that $P(C|A)=0$ under the distribution $P$. Therefore, the implication you suggest does not hold (take $t=frac{2}{3}$, for example).
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fantastic, thanks a lot. I now realise that the property i'm after is actually a little different. I want to know whether $t leq P(C|B), P(neg B|neg C), P(B|A), P(neg A|neg B)$ guarantees that $P(C|A)$, $P(neg A|neg C) leq 1 - t$ can't both hold. I'm editing the question to reflect this. My apologies for the mistake.
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fantastic, thanks a lot. I now realise that the property i'm after is actually a little different. I want to know whether $t leq P(C|B), P(neg B|neg C), P(B|A), P(neg A|neg B)$ guarantees that $P(C|A)$, $P(neg A|neg C) leq 1 - t$ can't both hold. I'm editing the question to reflect this. My apologies for the mistake.
– King Kong
yesterday
fantastic, thanks a lot. I now realise that the property i'm after is actually a little different. I want to know whether $t leq P(C|B), P(neg B|neg C), P(B|A), P(neg A|neg B)$ guarantees that $P(C|A)$, $P(neg A|neg C) leq 1 - t$ can't both hold. I'm editing the question to reflect this. My apologies for the mistake.
– King Kong
yesterday
fantastic, thanks a lot. I now realise that the property i'm after is actually a little different. I want to know whether $t leq P(C|B), P(neg B|neg C), P(B|A), P(neg A|neg B)$ guarantees that $P(C|A)$, $P(neg A|neg C) leq 1 - t$ can't both hold. I'm editing the question to reflect this. My apologies for the mistake.
– King Kong
yesterday
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