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If $f(4-x)=f (4+x)$ and $f(2-x)=f(2+x)$, prove that $f$ is constant function.




I tried to solve by assuming x and y are two variable then if we get $f (x)=f (y)$ then $f$ is constant function, but can't complete the problem. Someone please help me.






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If $f(4-x)=f (4+x)$ and $f(2-x)=f(2+x)$, prove that $f$ is constant function.




I tried to solve by assuming x and y are two variable then if we get $f (x)=f (y)$ then $f$ is constant function, but can't complete the problem. Someone please help me.






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If $f(4-x)=f (4+x)$ and $f(2-x)=f(2+x)$, prove that $f$ is constant function.




I tried to solve by assuming x and y are two variable then if we get $f (x)=f (y)$ then $f$ is constant function, but can't complete the problem. Someone please help me.






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$f$ is not necessarily constant. Here is a counter-example:
$$
f(x) =
begin{cases}
0, & text{if $xinBbb Q$} \
1, & text{if $xnotinBbb Q$}
end{cases}$$



And another one, continuous this time:



$$f(x)=cospi x$$






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    The two equations $,f(4-x)=f(4+x),$ and $,f(2-x)=f(2+x),$ require that the function is invariant with respect to two reflections and hence a translation by $4$. The simple calculation is $, x mapsto 8-x ,$ in the first reflection and then $ 8-x mapsto x-4 ,$ after the second reflection yielding a translation by $4.$ Assuming that the function is defined for all real numbers, and that no other conditions apply, then you can let the function be arbitrarily defined on the interval $,[0,2].,$
    The function must be an even function with a period of $4$. That is, $,f(x)=f(-x),$ and $,f(x)=f(x+4),$ for all real $,x.,$ This determines the function for all real numbers and that it satisfies $,f(2 n-x)=f(2 n+x)=f(x),$ and $, f(4 n + x) = f(x) ,$ for all integer $,n,$ and all real $,x.,$



    For a simple example, consider $, f(4n+x) := |x|,$ for all $,|x|le 2,$ and integer $,n.,$ This is a sawtooth function with fundamental period $,4.,$






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      That should read, "and hence a translation by 4." For instance, $f(x)=cosfrac{pi}{2}x$ satisfies the conditions.
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      A reflection about $x=2$, followed by a reflection about $x=4$, amounts to a translation by $4$, not $2$.
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      Oct 27 '18 at 10:53










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      @TonyK Thanks for that correction. I should be more careful.
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    Without tellings what are the domain and the codomain of $f$, nobody can answer that. However, if the domain is, say, $mathbb Q$, then the statement is false. Consider, for instance,$$begin{array}{rccc}fcolon&mathbb Q&longrightarrow&mathbb Z\&q&mapsto&begin{cases}1&text{ if }qinmathbb Z\0&text{ otherwise.}end{cases}end{array}$$






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      $begingroup$

      $f$ is not necessarily constant. Here is a counter-example:
      $$
      f(x) =
      begin{cases}
      0, & text{if $xinBbb Q$} \
      1, & text{if $xnotinBbb Q$}
      end{cases}$$



      And another one, continuous this time:



      $$f(x)=cospi x$$






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        $begingroup$

        $f$ is not necessarily constant. Here is a counter-example:
        $$
        f(x) =
        begin{cases}
        0, & text{if $xinBbb Q$} \
        1, & text{if $xnotinBbb Q$}
        end{cases}$$



        And another one, continuous this time:



        $$f(x)=cospi x$$






        share|cite|improve this answer









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          $begingroup$

          $f$ is not necessarily constant. Here is a counter-example:
          $$
          f(x) =
          begin{cases}
          0, & text{if $xinBbb Q$} \
          1, & text{if $xnotinBbb Q$}
          end{cases}$$



          And another one, continuous this time:



          $$f(x)=cospi x$$






          share|cite|improve this answer









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          $f$ is not necessarily constant. Here is a counter-example:
          $$
          f(x) =
          begin{cases}
          0, & text{if $xinBbb Q$} \
          1, & text{if $xnotinBbb Q$}
          end{cases}$$



          And another one, continuous this time:



          $$f(x)=cospi x$$







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              The two equations $,f(4-x)=f(4+x),$ and $,f(2-x)=f(2+x),$ require that the function is invariant with respect to two reflections and hence a translation by $4$. The simple calculation is $, x mapsto 8-x ,$ in the first reflection and then $ 8-x mapsto x-4 ,$ after the second reflection yielding a translation by $4.$ Assuming that the function is defined for all real numbers, and that no other conditions apply, then you can let the function be arbitrarily defined on the interval $,[0,2].,$
              The function must be an even function with a period of $4$. That is, $,f(x)=f(-x),$ and $,f(x)=f(x+4),$ for all real $,x.,$ This determines the function for all real numbers and that it satisfies $,f(2 n-x)=f(2 n+x)=f(x),$ and $, f(4 n + x) = f(x) ,$ for all integer $,n,$ and all real $,x.,$



              For a simple example, consider $, f(4n+x) := |x|,$ for all $,|x|le 2,$ and integer $,n.,$ This is a sawtooth function with fundamental period $,4.,$






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                That should read, "and hence a translation by 4." For instance, $f(x)=cosfrac{pi}{2}x$ satisfies the conditions.
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                – TonyK
                Oct 27 '18 at 10:37










              • $begingroup$
                A reflection about $x=2$, followed by a reflection about $x=4$, amounts to a translation by $4$, not $2$.
                $endgroup$
                – TonyK
                Oct 27 '18 at 10:53










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                @TonyK Thanks for that correction. I should be more careful.
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                – Somos
                Oct 27 '18 at 11:01
















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              The two equations $,f(4-x)=f(4+x),$ and $,f(2-x)=f(2+x),$ require that the function is invariant with respect to two reflections and hence a translation by $4$. The simple calculation is $, x mapsto 8-x ,$ in the first reflection and then $ 8-x mapsto x-4 ,$ after the second reflection yielding a translation by $4.$ Assuming that the function is defined for all real numbers, and that no other conditions apply, then you can let the function be arbitrarily defined on the interval $,[0,2].,$
              The function must be an even function with a period of $4$. That is, $,f(x)=f(-x),$ and $,f(x)=f(x+4),$ for all real $,x.,$ This determines the function for all real numbers and that it satisfies $,f(2 n-x)=f(2 n+x)=f(x),$ and $, f(4 n + x) = f(x) ,$ for all integer $,n,$ and all real $,x.,$



              For a simple example, consider $, f(4n+x) := |x|,$ for all $,|x|le 2,$ and integer $,n.,$ This is a sawtooth function with fundamental period $,4.,$






              share|cite|improve this answer











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                That should read, "and hence a translation by 4." For instance, $f(x)=cosfrac{pi}{2}x$ satisfies the conditions.
                $endgroup$
                – TonyK
                Oct 27 '18 at 10:37










              • $begingroup$
                A reflection about $x=2$, followed by a reflection about $x=4$, amounts to a translation by $4$, not $2$.
                $endgroup$
                – TonyK
                Oct 27 '18 at 10:53










              • $begingroup$
                @TonyK Thanks for that correction. I should be more careful.
                $endgroup$
                – Somos
                Oct 27 '18 at 11:01














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              The two equations $,f(4-x)=f(4+x),$ and $,f(2-x)=f(2+x),$ require that the function is invariant with respect to two reflections and hence a translation by $4$. The simple calculation is $, x mapsto 8-x ,$ in the first reflection and then $ 8-x mapsto x-4 ,$ after the second reflection yielding a translation by $4.$ Assuming that the function is defined for all real numbers, and that no other conditions apply, then you can let the function be arbitrarily defined on the interval $,[0,2].,$
              The function must be an even function with a period of $4$. That is, $,f(x)=f(-x),$ and $,f(x)=f(x+4),$ for all real $,x.,$ This determines the function for all real numbers and that it satisfies $,f(2 n-x)=f(2 n+x)=f(x),$ and $, f(4 n + x) = f(x) ,$ for all integer $,n,$ and all real $,x.,$



              For a simple example, consider $, f(4n+x) := |x|,$ for all $,|x|le 2,$ and integer $,n.,$ This is a sawtooth function with fundamental period $,4.,$






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              The two equations $,f(4-x)=f(4+x),$ and $,f(2-x)=f(2+x),$ require that the function is invariant with respect to two reflections and hence a translation by $4$. The simple calculation is $, x mapsto 8-x ,$ in the first reflection and then $ 8-x mapsto x-4 ,$ after the second reflection yielding a translation by $4.$ Assuming that the function is defined for all real numbers, and that no other conditions apply, then you can let the function be arbitrarily defined on the interval $,[0,2].,$
              The function must be an even function with a period of $4$. That is, $,f(x)=f(-x),$ and $,f(x)=f(x+4),$ for all real $,x.,$ This determines the function for all real numbers and that it satisfies $,f(2 n-x)=f(2 n+x)=f(x),$ and $, f(4 n + x) = f(x) ,$ for all integer $,n,$ and all real $,x.,$



              For a simple example, consider $, f(4n+x) := |x|,$ for all $,|x|le 2,$ and integer $,n.,$ This is a sawtooth function with fundamental period $,4.,$







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              • $begingroup$
                That should read, "and hence a translation by 4." For instance, $f(x)=cosfrac{pi}{2}x$ satisfies the conditions.
                $endgroup$
                – TonyK
                Oct 27 '18 at 10:37










              • $begingroup$
                A reflection about $x=2$, followed by a reflection about $x=4$, amounts to a translation by $4$, not $2$.
                $endgroup$
                – TonyK
                Oct 27 '18 at 10:53










              • $begingroup$
                @TonyK Thanks for that correction. I should be more careful.
                $endgroup$
                – Somos
                Oct 27 '18 at 11:01


















              • $begingroup$
                That should read, "and hence a translation by 4." For instance, $f(x)=cosfrac{pi}{2}x$ satisfies the conditions.
                $endgroup$
                – TonyK
                Oct 27 '18 at 10:37










              • $begingroup$
                A reflection about $x=2$, followed by a reflection about $x=4$, amounts to a translation by $4$, not $2$.
                $endgroup$
                – TonyK
                Oct 27 '18 at 10:53










              • $begingroup$
                @TonyK Thanks for that correction. I should be more careful.
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                Oct 27 '18 at 11:01
















              $begingroup$
              That should read, "and hence a translation by 4." For instance, $f(x)=cosfrac{pi}{2}x$ satisfies the conditions.
              $endgroup$
              – TonyK
              Oct 27 '18 at 10:37




              $begingroup$
              That should read, "and hence a translation by 4." For instance, $f(x)=cosfrac{pi}{2}x$ satisfies the conditions.
              $endgroup$
              – TonyK
              Oct 27 '18 at 10:37












              $begingroup$
              A reflection about $x=2$, followed by a reflection about $x=4$, amounts to a translation by $4$, not $2$.
              $endgroup$
              – TonyK
              Oct 27 '18 at 10:53




              $begingroup$
              A reflection about $x=2$, followed by a reflection about $x=4$, amounts to a translation by $4$, not $2$.
              $endgroup$
              – TonyK
              Oct 27 '18 at 10:53












              $begingroup$
              @TonyK Thanks for that correction. I should be more careful.
              $endgroup$
              – Somos
              Oct 27 '18 at 11:01




              $begingroup$
              @TonyK Thanks for that correction. I should be more careful.
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              Oct 27 '18 at 11:01











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              Without tellings what are the domain and the codomain of $f$, nobody can answer that. However, if the domain is, say, $mathbb Q$, then the statement is false. Consider, for instance,$$begin{array}{rccc}fcolon&mathbb Q&longrightarrow&mathbb Z\&q&mapsto&begin{cases}1&text{ if }qinmathbb Z\0&text{ otherwise.}end{cases}end{array}$$






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                  Without tellings what are the domain and the codomain of $f$, nobody can answer that. However, if the domain is, say, $mathbb Q$, then the statement is false. Consider, for instance,$$begin{array}{rccc}fcolon&mathbb Q&longrightarrow&mathbb Z\&q&mapsto&begin{cases}1&text{ if }qinmathbb Z\0&text{ otherwise.}end{cases}end{array}$$






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