How do max and union commute in Hausdorff measure?
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Recall that $d_H(A,B) = max{max_{a in A} min_{b in B} d(a,b),max_{b in B} min_{a in A} d(a,b)}$
Theorem: Let $A,B,C in H(X)$ (where $H(X)$ is the set of non-empty compact subsets of $X$). Then $d_H(A cup B,C) = max {d_H(A,C),d_H(B,C)}$
This claim appears in the book on fractals and splines by Peter Massopust. However, I'm not able to connect the hint below with the statement of the theorem:
Proof: Note that
begin{align}
d(Acup B, C) &= max_{alphain Acup B} d(alpha, C) = maxleft{ max_{alphain A} d(alpha,C), max_{alphain B} d(alpha,C)right} \
&= max{ d(A,C), d(B,C)}
end{align}
which implies that claim. (The reader is encouraged to verify this).
It seems that the definition of $d$ is (see the book Fractals everywhere) taken to be $d(A,B) = max{d(a,B):a in A}$. So the above hint makes sense.
So how can I use this hint to prove my theorem?
My try:
$d_H(A cup B,C) = max {d(A cup B,C) , d(C, A cup B) }$
by definition. Then, by the hint:
$d_H(A cup B,C) = max {max{d(A cup B,C), d(C,A cup B)} , d(C, A cup B) }$
then, I take the other member:
$max{d_H(A,C),d_H(B,C)} = max {max{d(A,C), d(C,A)} , {max{d(B,C), d(C,B)} }$
again by definition. Two terms are in the two sides, but I would need an equality of the sort $d(C,A cup B) = max {d(C,A),d(C,B)}$. This reduces to show:
$max_{c in C}{min_{a in A cup B} d(c,a)} = max{max_{c in C}{min_{a in A} d(c,a),max_{c in C}{min_{a in B} d(c,a)}}$
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Recall that $d_H(A,B) = max{max_{a in A} min_{b in B} d(a,b),max_{b in B} min_{a in A} d(a,b)}$
Theorem: Let $A,B,C in H(X)$ (where $H(X)$ is the set of non-empty compact subsets of $X$). Then $d_H(A cup B,C) = max {d_H(A,C),d_H(B,C)}$
This claim appears in the book on fractals and splines by Peter Massopust. However, I'm not able to connect the hint below with the statement of the theorem:
Proof: Note that
begin{align}
d(Acup B, C) &= max_{alphain Acup B} d(alpha, C) = maxleft{ max_{alphain A} d(alpha,C), max_{alphain B} d(alpha,C)right} \
&= max{ d(A,C), d(B,C)}
end{align}
which implies that claim. (The reader is encouraged to verify this).
It seems that the definition of $d$ is (see the book Fractals everywhere) taken to be $d(A,B) = max{d(a,B):a in A}$. So the above hint makes sense.
So how can I use this hint to prove my theorem?
My try:
$d_H(A cup B,C) = max {d(A cup B,C) , d(C, A cup B) }$
by definition. Then, by the hint:
$d_H(A cup B,C) = max {max{d(A cup B,C), d(C,A cup B)} , d(C, A cup B) }$
then, I take the other member:
$max{d_H(A,C),d_H(B,C)} = max {max{d(A,C), d(C,A)} , {max{d(B,C), d(C,B)} }$
again by definition. Two terms are in the two sides, but I would need an equality of the sort $d(C,A cup B) = max {d(C,A),d(C,B)}$. This reduces to show:
$max_{c in C}{min_{a in A cup B} d(c,a)} = max{max_{c in C}{min_{a in A} d(c,a),max_{c in C}{min_{a in B} d(c,a)}}$
functional-analysis analysis metric-spaces fractals
Where, specifically, are you stuck? There are three equalities in the quoted text, as well as, perhaps, some ambiguity in the last sentence. What, specifically, are you having trouble understanding?
– Xander Henderson
2 days ago
@XanderHenderson so yes, given the definition of $d_H$ and the definition of $d$ over sets, how does the hint imply the theorem?
– Javier
2 days ago
Barnsley’s book on SuperFractals, Cambridge University Press, 2006. Look at Theorem 1.12.15 on p. 66 and set C = D.
– Javier
yesterday
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Recall that $d_H(A,B) = max{max_{a in A} min_{b in B} d(a,b),max_{b in B} min_{a in A} d(a,b)}$
Theorem: Let $A,B,C in H(X)$ (where $H(X)$ is the set of non-empty compact subsets of $X$). Then $d_H(A cup B,C) = max {d_H(A,C),d_H(B,C)}$
This claim appears in the book on fractals and splines by Peter Massopust. However, I'm not able to connect the hint below with the statement of the theorem:
Proof: Note that
begin{align}
d(Acup B, C) &= max_{alphain Acup B} d(alpha, C) = maxleft{ max_{alphain A} d(alpha,C), max_{alphain B} d(alpha,C)right} \
&= max{ d(A,C), d(B,C)}
end{align}
which implies that claim. (The reader is encouraged to verify this).
It seems that the definition of $d$ is (see the book Fractals everywhere) taken to be $d(A,B) = max{d(a,B):a in A}$. So the above hint makes sense.
So how can I use this hint to prove my theorem?
My try:
$d_H(A cup B,C) = max {d(A cup B,C) , d(C, A cup B) }$
by definition. Then, by the hint:
$d_H(A cup B,C) = max {max{d(A cup B,C), d(C,A cup B)} , d(C, A cup B) }$
then, I take the other member:
$max{d_H(A,C),d_H(B,C)} = max {max{d(A,C), d(C,A)} , {max{d(B,C), d(C,B)} }$
again by definition. Two terms are in the two sides, but I would need an equality of the sort $d(C,A cup B) = max {d(C,A),d(C,B)}$. This reduces to show:
$max_{c in C}{min_{a in A cup B} d(c,a)} = max{max_{c in C}{min_{a in A} d(c,a),max_{c in C}{min_{a in B} d(c,a)}}$
functional-analysis analysis metric-spaces fractals
Recall that $d_H(A,B) = max{max_{a in A} min_{b in B} d(a,b),max_{b in B} min_{a in A} d(a,b)}$
Theorem: Let $A,B,C in H(X)$ (where $H(X)$ is the set of non-empty compact subsets of $X$). Then $d_H(A cup B,C) = max {d_H(A,C),d_H(B,C)}$
This claim appears in the book on fractals and splines by Peter Massopust. However, I'm not able to connect the hint below with the statement of the theorem:
Proof: Note that
begin{align}
d(Acup B, C) &= max_{alphain Acup B} d(alpha, C) = maxleft{ max_{alphain A} d(alpha,C), max_{alphain B} d(alpha,C)right} \
&= max{ d(A,C), d(B,C)}
end{align}
which implies that claim. (The reader is encouraged to verify this).
It seems that the definition of $d$ is (see the book Fractals everywhere) taken to be $d(A,B) = max{d(a,B):a in A}$. So the above hint makes sense.
So how can I use this hint to prove my theorem?
My try:
$d_H(A cup B,C) = max {d(A cup B,C) , d(C, A cup B) }$
by definition. Then, by the hint:
$d_H(A cup B,C) = max {max{d(A cup B,C), d(C,A cup B)} , d(C, A cup B) }$
then, I take the other member:
$max{d_H(A,C),d_H(B,C)} = max {max{d(A,C), d(C,A)} , {max{d(B,C), d(C,B)} }$
again by definition. Two terms are in the two sides, but I would need an equality of the sort $d(C,A cup B) = max {d(C,A),d(C,B)}$. This reduces to show:
$max_{c in C}{min_{a in A cup B} d(c,a)} = max{max_{c in C}{min_{a in A} d(c,a),max_{c in C}{min_{a in B} d(c,a)}}$
functional-analysis analysis metric-spaces fractals
functional-analysis analysis metric-spaces fractals
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Where, specifically, are you stuck? There are three equalities in the quoted text, as well as, perhaps, some ambiguity in the last sentence. What, specifically, are you having trouble understanding?
– Xander Henderson
2 days ago
@XanderHenderson so yes, given the definition of $d_H$ and the definition of $d$ over sets, how does the hint imply the theorem?
– Javier
2 days ago
Barnsley’s book on SuperFractals, Cambridge University Press, 2006. Look at Theorem 1.12.15 on p. 66 and set C = D.
– Javier
yesterday
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Where, specifically, are you stuck? There are three equalities in the quoted text, as well as, perhaps, some ambiguity in the last sentence. What, specifically, are you having trouble understanding?
– Xander Henderson
2 days ago
@XanderHenderson so yes, given the definition of $d_H$ and the definition of $d$ over sets, how does the hint imply the theorem?
– Javier
2 days ago
Barnsley’s book on SuperFractals, Cambridge University Press, 2006. Look at Theorem 1.12.15 on p. 66 and set C = D.
– Javier
yesterday
Where, specifically, are you stuck? There are three equalities in the quoted text, as well as, perhaps, some ambiguity in the last sentence. What, specifically, are you having trouble understanding?
– Xander Henderson
2 days ago
Where, specifically, are you stuck? There are three equalities in the quoted text, as well as, perhaps, some ambiguity in the last sentence. What, specifically, are you having trouble understanding?
– Xander Henderson
2 days ago
@XanderHenderson so yes, given the definition of $d_H$ and the definition of $d$ over sets, how does the hint imply the theorem?
– Javier
2 days ago
@XanderHenderson so yes, given the definition of $d_H$ and the definition of $d$ over sets, how does the hint imply the theorem?
– Javier
2 days ago
Barnsley’s book on SuperFractals, Cambridge University Press, 2006. Look at Theorem 1.12.15 on p. 66 and set C = D.
– Javier
yesterday
Barnsley’s book on SuperFractals, Cambridge University Press, 2006. Look at Theorem 1.12.15 on p. 66 and set C = D.
– Javier
yesterday
add a comment |
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Where, specifically, are you stuck? There are three equalities in the quoted text, as well as, perhaps, some ambiguity in the last sentence. What, specifically, are you having trouble understanding?
– Xander Henderson
2 days ago
@XanderHenderson so yes, given the definition of $d_H$ and the definition of $d$ over sets, how does the hint imply the theorem?
– Javier
2 days ago
Barnsley’s book on SuperFractals, Cambridge University Press, 2006. Look at Theorem 1.12.15 on p. 66 and set C = D.
– Javier
yesterday