Defining powerset of $Omega = [0, 1]$ in measure theory context
I am confused about the concept of powerset in the following context.
I am reading the Bandit Algorithm book (http://banditalgs.com/) by Csaba Szepesvari. There it gives the following theorem:
Theorem 2.1: Let $Omega = [0,1]$ and $mathcal{F}$ is the powerset of $Omega$. Then there does not exist a measure $mathbb{P}$ on $(Omega, mathcal{F})$ such that $mathbb{P}([a,b]) = b-a$ for all $0leq a leq b leq 1$.
What does the powerset of $Omega$ look like since there are infinitely many real numbers in it?
probability-theory measure-theory terminology
add a comment |
I am confused about the concept of powerset in the following context.
I am reading the Bandit Algorithm book (http://banditalgs.com/) by Csaba Szepesvari. There it gives the following theorem:
Theorem 2.1: Let $Omega = [0,1]$ and $mathcal{F}$ is the powerset of $Omega$. Then there does not exist a measure $mathbb{P}$ on $(Omega, mathcal{F})$ such that $mathbb{P}([a,b]) = b-a$ for all $0leq a leq b leq 1$.
What does the powerset of $Omega$ look like since there are infinitely many real numbers in it?
probability-theory measure-theory terminology
4
That's an odd question. The power set is the collection of all subsets.
– Asaf Karagila♦
Dec 12 '18 at 16:18
It seems you're just asking about the powerset of the unit interval. I understand your concern since each element of the set $S$ is drawn from a continuum, so there are uncountably many elements in it, it's doubly difficult to imagine every possible subset of $S$. But this powerset contains every single isolated point, every segment, every union of those, and every possible combination of finitely many, countably many, or uncountably many of those.
– user334732
Dec 12 '18 at 18:28
It is hard to "visualize". A version of Cantor's diagonal argument shows that there are an infinity of subsets of $[0,1]$, with this infinity being much larger than the infinite number of real numbers in the set $[0,1]$.
– hardmath
Dec 12 '18 at 20:04
add a comment |
I am confused about the concept of powerset in the following context.
I am reading the Bandit Algorithm book (http://banditalgs.com/) by Csaba Szepesvari. There it gives the following theorem:
Theorem 2.1: Let $Omega = [0,1]$ and $mathcal{F}$ is the powerset of $Omega$. Then there does not exist a measure $mathbb{P}$ on $(Omega, mathcal{F})$ such that $mathbb{P}([a,b]) = b-a$ for all $0leq a leq b leq 1$.
What does the powerset of $Omega$ look like since there are infinitely many real numbers in it?
probability-theory measure-theory terminology
I am confused about the concept of powerset in the following context.
I am reading the Bandit Algorithm book (http://banditalgs.com/) by Csaba Szepesvari. There it gives the following theorem:
Theorem 2.1: Let $Omega = [0,1]$ and $mathcal{F}$ is the powerset of $Omega$. Then there does not exist a measure $mathbb{P}$ on $(Omega, mathcal{F})$ such that $mathbb{P}([a,b]) = b-a$ for all $0leq a leq b leq 1$.
What does the powerset of $Omega$ look like since there are infinitely many real numbers in it?
probability-theory measure-theory terminology
probability-theory measure-theory terminology
edited Dec 12 '18 at 16:28
Andrés E. Caicedo
64.9k8158246
64.9k8158246
asked Dec 12 '18 at 15:55
hi15hi15
1436
1436
4
That's an odd question. The power set is the collection of all subsets.
– Asaf Karagila♦
Dec 12 '18 at 16:18
It seems you're just asking about the powerset of the unit interval. I understand your concern since each element of the set $S$ is drawn from a continuum, so there are uncountably many elements in it, it's doubly difficult to imagine every possible subset of $S$. But this powerset contains every single isolated point, every segment, every union of those, and every possible combination of finitely many, countably many, or uncountably many of those.
– user334732
Dec 12 '18 at 18:28
It is hard to "visualize". A version of Cantor's diagonal argument shows that there are an infinity of subsets of $[0,1]$, with this infinity being much larger than the infinite number of real numbers in the set $[0,1]$.
– hardmath
Dec 12 '18 at 20:04
add a comment |
4
That's an odd question. The power set is the collection of all subsets.
– Asaf Karagila♦
Dec 12 '18 at 16:18
It seems you're just asking about the powerset of the unit interval. I understand your concern since each element of the set $S$ is drawn from a continuum, so there are uncountably many elements in it, it's doubly difficult to imagine every possible subset of $S$. But this powerset contains every single isolated point, every segment, every union of those, and every possible combination of finitely many, countably many, or uncountably many of those.
– user334732
Dec 12 '18 at 18:28
It is hard to "visualize". A version of Cantor's diagonal argument shows that there are an infinity of subsets of $[0,1]$, with this infinity being much larger than the infinite number of real numbers in the set $[0,1]$.
– hardmath
Dec 12 '18 at 20:04
4
4
That's an odd question. The power set is the collection of all subsets.
– Asaf Karagila♦
Dec 12 '18 at 16:18
That's an odd question. The power set is the collection of all subsets.
– Asaf Karagila♦
Dec 12 '18 at 16:18
It seems you're just asking about the powerset of the unit interval. I understand your concern since each element of the set $S$ is drawn from a continuum, so there are uncountably many elements in it, it's doubly difficult to imagine every possible subset of $S$. But this powerset contains every single isolated point, every segment, every union of those, and every possible combination of finitely many, countably many, or uncountably many of those.
– user334732
Dec 12 '18 at 18:28
It seems you're just asking about the powerset of the unit interval. I understand your concern since each element of the set $S$ is drawn from a continuum, so there are uncountably many elements in it, it's doubly difficult to imagine every possible subset of $S$. But this powerset contains every single isolated point, every segment, every union of those, and every possible combination of finitely many, countably many, or uncountably many of those.
– user334732
Dec 12 '18 at 18:28
It is hard to "visualize". A version of Cantor's diagonal argument shows that there are an infinity of subsets of $[0,1]$, with this infinity being much larger than the infinite number of real numbers in the set $[0,1]$.
– hardmath
Dec 12 '18 at 20:04
It is hard to "visualize". A version of Cantor's diagonal argument shows that there are an infinity of subsets of $[0,1]$, with this infinity being much larger than the infinite number of real numbers in the set $[0,1]$.
– hardmath
Dec 12 '18 at 20:04
add a comment |
0
active
oldest
votes
Your Answer
StackExchange.ifUsing("editor", function () {
return StackExchange.using("mathjaxEditing", function () {
StackExchange.MarkdownEditor.creationCallbacks.add(function (editor, postfix) {
StackExchange.mathjaxEditing.prepareWmdForMathJax(editor, postfix, [["$", "$"], ["\\(","\\)"]]);
});
});
}, "mathjax-editing");
StackExchange.ready(function() {
var channelOptions = {
tags: "".split(" "),
id: "69"
};
initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);
StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function() {
// Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled) {
StackExchange.using("snippets", function() {
createEditor();
});
}
else {
createEditor();
}
});
function createEditor() {
StackExchange.prepareEditor({
heartbeatType: 'answer',
autoActivateHeartbeat: false,
convertImagesToLinks: true,
noModals: true,
showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
reputationToPostImages: 10,
bindNavPrevention: true,
postfix: "",
imageUploader: {
brandingHtml: "Powered by u003ca class="icon-imgur-white" href="https://imgur.com/"u003eu003c/au003e",
contentPolicyHtml: "User contributions licensed under u003ca href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"u003ecc by-sa 3.0 with attribution requiredu003c/au003e u003ca href="https://stackoverflow.com/legal/content-policy"u003e(content policy)u003c/au003e",
allowUrls: true
},
noCode: true, onDemand: true,
discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
});
}
});
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
StackExchange.ready(
function () {
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f3036860%2fdefining-powerset-of-omega-0-1-in-measure-theory-context%23new-answer', 'question_page');
}
);
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
0
active
oldest
votes
0
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
Thanks for contributing an answer to Mathematics Stack Exchange!
- Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!
But avoid …
- Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.
- Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.
Use MathJax to format equations. MathJax reference.
To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.
Some of your past answers have not been well-received, and you're in danger of being blocked from answering.
Please pay close attention to the following guidance:
- Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!
But avoid …
- Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.
- Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.
To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
StackExchange.ready(
function () {
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f3036860%2fdefining-powerset-of-omega-0-1-in-measure-theory-context%23new-answer', 'question_page');
}
);
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
4
That's an odd question. The power set is the collection of all subsets.
– Asaf Karagila♦
Dec 12 '18 at 16:18
It seems you're just asking about the powerset of the unit interval. I understand your concern since each element of the set $S$ is drawn from a continuum, so there are uncountably many elements in it, it's doubly difficult to imagine every possible subset of $S$. But this powerset contains every single isolated point, every segment, every union of those, and every possible combination of finitely many, countably many, or uncountably many of those.
– user334732
Dec 12 '18 at 18:28
It is hard to "visualize". A version of Cantor's diagonal argument shows that there are an infinity of subsets of $[0,1]$, with this infinity being much larger than the infinite number of real numbers in the set $[0,1]$.
– hardmath
Dec 12 '18 at 20:04