$L_1 =(a^nb^n)$ and $L_2 =(a^nb^{2n})$. Is $L_1 cup L_2$ DCFL?












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I think that since $a^nb^n$ is not regular (applied pumping lemma), so is $L_2$.



Therefore, $L_1 cup L_2$ is not cfL.



Is that correct?










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  • Being CFL is entirely different from being a DCFL and both are entirely different from being regular. Which do you actually want?
    – Steven Stadnicki
    Dec 11 '14 at 8:47












  • Is it DCFL or not/am i understanding correctly being DCFL means it can be accepted by a deterministic PDA
    – Sachin Divakar
    Dec 11 '14 at 8:59


















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I think that since $a^nb^n$ is not regular (applied pumping lemma), so is $L_2$.



Therefore, $L_1 cup L_2$ is not cfL.



Is that correct?










share|cite|improve this question
























  • Being CFL is entirely different from being a DCFL and both are entirely different from being regular. Which do you actually want?
    – Steven Stadnicki
    Dec 11 '14 at 8:47












  • Is it DCFL or not/am i understanding correctly being DCFL means it can be accepted by a deterministic PDA
    – Sachin Divakar
    Dec 11 '14 at 8:59
















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I think that since $a^nb^n$ is not regular (applied pumping lemma), so is $L_2$.



Therefore, $L_1 cup L_2$ is not cfL.



Is that correct?










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I think that since $a^nb^n$ is not regular (applied pumping lemma), so is $L_2$.



Therefore, $L_1 cup L_2$ is not cfL.



Is that correct?







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  • Being CFL is entirely different from being a DCFL and both are entirely different from being regular. Which do you actually want?
    – Steven Stadnicki
    Dec 11 '14 at 8:47












  • Is it DCFL or not/am i understanding correctly being DCFL means it can be accepted by a deterministic PDA
    – Sachin Divakar
    Dec 11 '14 at 8:59




















  • Being CFL is entirely different from being a DCFL and both are entirely different from being regular. Which do you actually want?
    – Steven Stadnicki
    Dec 11 '14 at 8:47












  • Is it DCFL or not/am i understanding correctly being DCFL means it can be accepted by a deterministic PDA
    – Sachin Divakar
    Dec 11 '14 at 8:59


















Being CFL is entirely different from being a DCFL and both are entirely different from being regular. Which do you actually want?
– Steven Stadnicki
Dec 11 '14 at 8:47






Being CFL is entirely different from being a DCFL and both are entirely different from being regular. Which do you actually want?
– Steven Stadnicki
Dec 11 '14 at 8:47














Is it DCFL or not/am i understanding correctly being DCFL means it can be accepted by a deterministic PDA
– Sachin Divakar
Dec 11 '14 at 8:59






Is it DCFL or not/am i understanding correctly being DCFL means it can be accepted by a deterministic PDA
– Sachin Divakar
Dec 11 '14 at 8:59












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Hint:



$L_1$ is produced by



S := $epsilon$
| aSb



$L_2$ is produced by



S := $epsilon$
| aSbb



(assuming $a^a$ is a typo, meaning $a^n$)






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  • yes $a^n$ but is it dCFL
    – Sachin Divakar
    Dec 11 '14 at 8:32








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    Both $L_1$ and $L_2$ are DCFL. Their union isn't because it cannot be deterministically decided to process single b's or pairs of b's after a sequence of a's.
    – Ronald
    Dec 11 '14 at 10:42











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Hint:



$L_1$ is produced by



S := $epsilon$
| aSb



$L_2$ is produced by



S := $epsilon$
| aSbb



(assuming $a^a$ is a typo, meaning $a^n$)






share|cite|improve this answer





















  • yes $a^n$ but is it dCFL
    – Sachin Divakar
    Dec 11 '14 at 8:32








  • 1




    Both $L_1$ and $L_2$ are DCFL. Their union isn't because it cannot be deterministically decided to process single b's or pairs of b's after a sequence of a's.
    – Ronald
    Dec 11 '14 at 10:42
















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Hint:



$L_1$ is produced by



S := $epsilon$
| aSb



$L_2$ is produced by



S := $epsilon$
| aSbb



(assuming $a^a$ is a typo, meaning $a^n$)






share|cite|improve this answer





















  • yes $a^n$ but is it dCFL
    – Sachin Divakar
    Dec 11 '14 at 8:32








  • 1




    Both $L_1$ and $L_2$ are DCFL. Their union isn't because it cannot be deterministically decided to process single b's or pairs of b's after a sequence of a's.
    – Ronald
    Dec 11 '14 at 10:42














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Hint:



$L_1$ is produced by



S := $epsilon$
| aSb



$L_2$ is produced by



S := $epsilon$
| aSbb



(assuming $a^a$ is a typo, meaning $a^n$)






share|cite|improve this answer












Hint:



$L_1$ is produced by



S := $epsilon$
| aSb



$L_2$ is produced by



S := $epsilon$
| aSbb



(assuming $a^a$ is a typo, meaning $a^n$)







share|cite|improve this answer












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  • yes $a^n$ but is it dCFL
    – Sachin Divakar
    Dec 11 '14 at 8:32








  • 1




    Both $L_1$ and $L_2$ are DCFL. Their union isn't because it cannot be deterministically decided to process single b's or pairs of b's after a sequence of a's.
    – Ronald
    Dec 11 '14 at 10:42


















  • yes $a^n$ but is it dCFL
    – Sachin Divakar
    Dec 11 '14 at 8:32








  • 1




    Both $L_1$ and $L_2$ are DCFL. Their union isn't because it cannot be deterministically decided to process single b's or pairs of b's after a sequence of a's.
    – Ronald
    Dec 11 '14 at 10:42
















yes $a^n$ but is it dCFL
– Sachin Divakar
Dec 11 '14 at 8:32






yes $a^n$ but is it dCFL
– Sachin Divakar
Dec 11 '14 at 8:32






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1




Both $L_1$ and $L_2$ are DCFL. Their union isn't because it cannot be deterministically decided to process single b's or pairs of b's after a sequence of a's.
– Ronald
Dec 11 '14 at 10:42




Both $L_1$ and $L_2$ are DCFL. Their union isn't because it cannot be deterministically decided to process single b's or pairs of b's after a sequence of a's.
– Ronald
Dec 11 '14 at 10:42


















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