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We know Vandermonde's Identity, which states



$sum_{k=0}^{r}{m choose k}{n choose r-k}={m+n choose r}$.



Does anyone know what happens if we walk bigger steps with k? Say we skip all the odd ks, is something like



$sum_{k=0}^{r/2}{m choose 2k}{n choose r-2k}=frac{1}{2} {m+n choose r}$



or at least



$sum_{k=0}^{r/2}{m choose 2k}{n choose r-2k}=Theta left( frac{1}{2} {m+n choose r}right)$



true?



Maybe someone here has even some general insight on other step widths?



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    We know Vandermonde's Identity, which states



    $sum_{k=0}^{r}{m choose k}{n choose r-k}={m+n choose r}$.



    Does anyone know what happens if we walk bigger steps with k? Say we skip all the odd ks, is something like



    $sum_{k=0}^{r/2}{m choose 2k}{n choose r-2k}=frac{1}{2} {m+n choose r}$



    or at least



    $sum_{k=0}^{r/2}{m choose 2k}{n choose r-2k}=Theta left( frac{1}{2} {m+n choose r}right)$



    true?



    Maybe someone here has even some general insight on other step widths?



    Thank you!










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      We know Vandermonde's Identity, which states



      $sum_{k=0}^{r}{m choose k}{n choose r-k}={m+n choose r}$.



      Does anyone know what happens if we walk bigger steps with k? Say we skip all the odd ks, is something like



      $sum_{k=0}^{r/2}{m choose 2k}{n choose r-2k}=frac{1}{2} {m+n choose r}$



      or at least



      $sum_{k=0}^{r/2}{m choose 2k}{n choose r-2k}=Theta left( frac{1}{2} {m+n choose r}right)$



      true?



      Maybe someone here has even some general insight on other step widths?



      Thank you!










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      We know Vandermonde's Identity, which states



      $sum_{k=0}^{r}{m choose k}{n choose r-k}={m+n choose r}$.



      Does anyone know what happens if we walk bigger steps with k? Say we skip all the odd ks, is something like



      $sum_{k=0}^{r/2}{m choose 2k}{n choose r-2k}=frac{1}{2} {m+n choose r}$



      or at least



      $sum_{k=0}^{r/2}{m choose 2k}{n choose r-2k}=Theta left( frac{1}{2} {m+n choose r}right)$



      true?



      Maybe someone here has even some general insight on other step widths?



      Thank you!







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          We derive a binomial identity which shows the deviation of OPs sum from $frac{1}{2}binom{m+n}{r}$. It is convenient to use the coefficient of operator $[z^n]$ to denote the coefficient of $z^n$ of a series. This way we can write for instance



          begin{align*}
          binom{n}{k}=[z^k](1+z)^ntag{1}
          end{align*}




          We assume wlog $ngeq m$ and obtain
          begin{align*}
          color{blue}{sum_{k=0}^{r/2}}&color{blue}{binom{m}{2k}binom{n}{r-2k}}\
          &=sum_{kgeq 0}binom{m}{2k}[z^{r-2k}](1+z)^ntag{2}\
          &=[z^r](1+z)^nsum_{kgeq 0}binom{m}{2k}z^{2k}tag{3}\
          &=[z^r](1+z)^nfrac{1}{2}left((1+z)^m+(1-z)^mright)tag{4}\
          &=frac{1}{2}[z^r](1+z)^{m+n}+frac{1}{2}[z^r](1+z)^n(1-z)^m\
          &=frac{1}{2}binom{m+n}{r}+frac{1}{2}[z^r](1-z^2)^m(1+z)^{n-m}tag{5}\
          &=frac{1}{2}binom{m+n}{r}+frac{1}{2}[z^r]sum_{k=0}^{r/2}binom{m}{k}(-1)^kz^{2k}(1+z)^{n-m}\
          &=frac{1}{2}binom{m+n}{r}+frac{1}{2}sum_{k=0}^{r/2}binom{m}{k}(-1)^k[z^{r-2k}](1+z)^{n-m}tag{6}\
          &,,color{blue}{=frac{1}{2}binom{m+n}{r}+frac{1}{2}sum_{k=0}^{r/2}binom{m}{k}binom{n-m}{r-2k}(-1)^k}tag{7}
          end{align*}




          Comment:




          • In (2) we apply the coefficient of operator as indicated in (1) and we set the upper limit of the sum to $infty$ without changing anything since we are adding zeros only.


          • In (3) we use the linearity of the coefficient of operator.


          • In (4) we write the sum as polynomial in closed form.


          • In (5) we select the coefficient of $z^r$ of the left polynomial and we rewrite the other polynomial keeping in mind that $ngeq m$.


          • In (6) we use the rule $[z^{p-q}]A(z)=[z^p]z^qA(z)$.


          • In (7) we select the coefficient of $z^{r-2k}$.







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          • Thank you very much! I will work my way through your answer on the upcoming weekend. From the first glance I think this might exactly be what I was looking for.
            – drix
            Dec 14 '18 at 15:16










          • @drix: You're welcome. Good to see the answer is helpful.
            – Markus Scheuer
            Dec 14 '18 at 15:43



















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          In general, having the ogf (z-Transform)
          $$
          F(z) = sumlimits_{0, le ;n} {a_{,n} ,z^{,n} }
          $$

          then
          $$
          {1 over m}sumlimits_{0 le ,k, le ,m - 1} {left( {z^{,{1 over m}} ;e^{,i,{{2kpi } over m}} } right)^{,j}
          F(z^{,{1 over m}} ;e^{,i,{{2kpi } over m}} )}
          = sumlimits_{0, le ;n} {,a_{,m;n - j} ,z^{,n} }
          $$



          But unfortunately, the truncated binomial expansion
          $$
          sumlimits_{0, le ;k} {left( matrix{ n cr r - k cr} right),z^{,k} }
          $$

          does not have in general ($r<n$) a compact closed expression.



          We can go either through the Hypergeometric version
          $$
          sumlimits_{left( {0, le } right);k,left( { le ,,r} right)} {
          binom{m}{k} binom{n}{r-k},z^{,k} }
          = binom{n}{r} ;{}_2F_{,1} left( {matrix{
          { - m,; - r} cr
          {n - r + 1} cr
          } ;left| {,z} right.} right)
          $$

          or through the double ogf
          $$
          eqalign{
          & G(x,y,n,m) = sumlimits_{0, le ,k} {left( {sumlimits_{left( {0, le } right),j,left( { le ,m} right)} {
          binom{m}{j},binom{n}{k-j} y^{,j} } } right)x^{,k} } = cr
          & = sumlimits_{left( {0, le } right),j,left( { le ,m} right)} {
          binom{m}{j}left( {x,y} right)^{,j} sumlimits_{left( {j, le } right),k,left( { le ,n} right),} { ,binom{n}{k-j}x^{,k - j} } } = cr
          & = left( {1 + xy} right)^{,m} left( {1 + x} right)^{,n} cr}
          $$



          Then for instance we have
          $$
          eqalign{
          & sumlimits_{0, le ,k} {left( {sumlimits_{left( {0, le } right),j,left( { le ,leftlfloor {min (m,k)/2} rightrfloor } right);} {
          left( matrix{ m cr 2j cr} right),left( matrix{ n cr k - 2j cr} right)} } right)x^{,k} } = cr
          & = {1 over 2}left( {G(x,1,n,m) + G(x, - 1,n,m)} right) = cr
          & = {1 over 2}left( {1 + x} right)^{,n} left( {left( {1 + x} right)^{,m} + left( {1 - x} right)^{,m} } right) = cr
          & = {1 over 2}left( {1 + x} right)^{,n + m} + {1 over 2}left( {1 + x} right)^{,n} left( {1 - x} right)^{,m} = cr
          & = {1 over 2}left( {1 + x} right)^{,n + m} + {1 over 2}left( {1 + x} right)^{,n - m} left( {1 - x^{,2} } right)^{,m} = cr
          & = {1 over 2}left( {1 + x} right)^{,n + m} + {1 over 2}left( {1 - x^{,2} } right)^{,{{n + m} over 2}}
          left( {{{1 + x} over {1 - x}}} right)^{,{{n - m} over 2}} cr}
          $$

          which clearly indicates what is the difference between
          $$
          {1 over 2}binom{n+m}{r}
          quad vsquad sumlimits_{left( {0, le } right),j,left( { le ,leftlfloor {min (m,k)/2} rightrfloor } right);} {
          binom{m}{2j} , binom{n}{r-2j} }
          $$



          Of course the complement will be
          $$
          eqalign{
          & sumlimits_{0, le ,k} {left( {sumlimits_{left( {0, le } right),j,left( { le ,leftlfloor {min (m,k)/2} rightrfloor } right);} {
          binom{m}{2j+1} ,binom{n}{k - left( {2j + 1} right)}} } right)x^{,k} } = cr
          & = {1 over 2}left( {G(x,1,n,m) - G(x, - 1,n,m)} right) = cr
          & = {1 over 2}left( {1 + x} right)^{,n} left( {left( {1 + x} right)^{,m} - left( {1 - x} right)^{,m} } right) cr}
          $$






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          • Thank you very much! I will have a closer look on your answer this weekend.
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          • it's an interesting subject also for me ! waiting for you feedback.
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          We derive a binomial identity which shows the deviation of OPs sum from $frac{1}{2}binom{m+n}{r}$. It is convenient to use the coefficient of operator $[z^n]$ to denote the coefficient of $z^n$ of a series. This way we can write for instance



          begin{align*}
          binom{n}{k}=[z^k](1+z)^ntag{1}
          end{align*}




          We assume wlog $ngeq m$ and obtain
          begin{align*}
          color{blue}{sum_{k=0}^{r/2}}&color{blue}{binom{m}{2k}binom{n}{r-2k}}\
          &=sum_{kgeq 0}binom{m}{2k}[z^{r-2k}](1+z)^ntag{2}\
          &=[z^r](1+z)^nsum_{kgeq 0}binom{m}{2k}z^{2k}tag{3}\
          &=[z^r](1+z)^nfrac{1}{2}left((1+z)^m+(1-z)^mright)tag{4}\
          &=frac{1}{2}[z^r](1+z)^{m+n}+frac{1}{2}[z^r](1+z)^n(1-z)^m\
          &=frac{1}{2}binom{m+n}{r}+frac{1}{2}[z^r](1-z^2)^m(1+z)^{n-m}tag{5}\
          &=frac{1}{2}binom{m+n}{r}+frac{1}{2}[z^r]sum_{k=0}^{r/2}binom{m}{k}(-1)^kz^{2k}(1+z)^{n-m}\
          &=frac{1}{2}binom{m+n}{r}+frac{1}{2}sum_{k=0}^{r/2}binom{m}{k}(-1)^k[z^{r-2k}](1+z)^{n-m}tag{6}\
          &,,color{blue}{=frac{1}{2}binom{m+n}{r}+frac{1}{2}sum_{k=0}^{r/2}binom{m}{k}binom{n-m}{r-2k}(-1)^k}tag{7}
          end{align*}




          Comment:




          • In (2) we apply the coefficient of operator as indicated in (1) and we set the upper limit of the sum to $infty$ without changing anything since we are adding zeros only.


          • In (3) we use the linearity of the coefficient of operator.


          • In (4) we write the sum as polynomial in closed form.


          • In (5) we select the coefficient of $z^r$ of the left polynomial and we rewrite the other polynomial keeping in mind that $ngeq m$.


          • In (6) we use the rule $[z^{p-q}]A(z)=[z^p]z^qA(z)$.


          • In (7) we select the coefficient of $z^{r-2k}$.







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          • Thank you very much! I will work my way through your answer on the upcoming weekend. From the first glance I think this might exactly be what I was looking for.
            – drix
            Dec 14 '18 at 15:16










          • @drix: You're welcome. Good to see the answer is helpful.
            – Markus Scheuer
            Dec 14 '18 at 15:43
















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          We derive a binomial identity which shows the deviation of OPs sum from $frac{1}{2}binom{m+n}{r}$. It is convenient to use the coefficient of operator $[z^n]$ to denote the coefficient of $z^n$ of a series. This way we can write for instance



          begin{align*}
          binom{n}{k}=[z^k](1+z)^ntag{1}
          end{align*}




          We assume wlog $ngeq m$ and obtain
          begin{align*}
          color{blue}{sum_{k=0}^{r/2}}&color{blue}{binom{m}{2k}binom{n}{r-2k}}\
          &=sum_{kgeq 0}binom{m}{2k}[z^{r-2k}](1+z)^ntag{2}\
          &=[z^r](1+z)^nsum_{kgeq 0}binom{m}{2k}z^{2k}tag{3}\
          &=[z^r](1+z)^nfrac{1}{2}left((1+z)^m+(1-z)^mright)tag{4}\
          &=frac{1}{2}[z^r](1+z)^{m+n}+frac{1}{2}[z^r](1+z)^n(1-z)^m\
          &=frac{1}{2}binom{m+n}{r}+frac{1}{2}[z^r](1-z^2)^m(1+z)^{n-m}tag{5}\
          &=frac{1}{2}binom{m+n}{r}+frac{1}{2}[z^r]sum_{k=0}^{r/2}binom{m}{k}(-1)^kz^{2k}(1+z)^{n-m}\
          &=frac{1}{2}binom{m+n}{r}+frac{1}{2}sum_{k=0}^{r/2}binom{m}{k}(-1)^k[z^{r-2k}](1+z)^{n-m}tag{6}\
          &,,color{blue}{=frac{1}{2}binom{m+n}{r}+frac{1}{2}sum_{k=0}^{r/2}binom{m}{k}binom{n-m}{r-2k}(-1)^k}tag{7}
          end{align*}




          Comment:




          • In (2) we apply the coefficient of operator as indicated in (1) and we set the upper limit of the sum to $infty$ without changing anything since we are adding zeros only.


          • In (3) we use the linearity of the coefficient of operator.


          • In (4) we write the sum as polynomial in closed form.


          • In (5) we select the coefficient of $z^r$ of the left polynomial and we rewrite the other polynomial keeping in mind that $ngeq m$.


          • In (6) we use the rule $[z^{p-q}]A(z)=[z^p]z^qA(z)$.


          • In (7) we select the coefficient of $z^{r-2k}$.







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          • Thank you very much! I will work my way through your answer on the upcoming weekend. From the first glance I think this might exactly be what I was looking for.
            – drix
            Dec 14 '18 at 15:16










          • @drix: You're welcome. Good to see the answer is helpful.
            – Markus Scheuer
            Dec 14 '18 at 15:43














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          We derive a binomial identity which shows the deviation of OPs sum from $frac{1}{2}binom{m+n}{r}$. It is convenient to use the coefficient of operator $[z^n]$ to denote the coefficient of $z^n$ of a series. This way we can write for instance



          begin{align*}
          binom{n}{k}=[z^k](1+z)^ntag{1}
          end{align*}




          We assume wlog $ngeq m$ and obtain
          begin{align*}
          color{blue}{sum_{k=0}^{r/2}}&color{blue}{binom{m}{2k}binom{n}{r-2k}}\
          &=sum_{kgeq 0}binom{m}{2k}[z^{r-2k}](1+z)^ntag{2}\
          &=[z^r](1+z)^nsum_{kgeq 0}binom{m}{2k}z^{2k}tag{3}\
          &=[z^r](1+z)^nfrac{1}{2}left((1+z)^m+(1-z)^mright)tag{4}\
          &=frac{1}{2}[z^r](1+z)^{m+n}+frac{1}{2}[z^r](1+z)^n(1-z)^m\
          &=frac{1}{2}binom{m+n}{r}+frac{1}{2}[z^r](1-z^2)^m(1+z)^{n-m}tag{5}\
          &=frac{1}{2}binom{m+n}{r}+frac{1}{2}[z^r]sum_{k=0}^{r/2}binom{m}{k}(-1)^kz^{2k}(1+z)^{n-m}\
          &=frac{1}{2}binom{m+n}{r}+frac{1}{2}sum_{k=0}^{r/2}binom{m}{k}(-1)^k[z^{r-2k}](1+z)^{n-m}tag{6}\
          &,,color{blue}{=frac{1}{2}binom{m+n}{r}+frac{1}{2}sum_{k=0}^{r/2}binom{m}{k}binom{n-m}{r-2k}(-1)^k}tag{7}
          end{align*}




          Comment:




          • In (2) we apply the coefficient of operator as indicated in (1) and we set the upper limit of the sum to $infty$ without changing anything since we are adding zeros only.


          • In (3) we use the linearity of the coefficient of operator.


          • In (4) we write the sum as polynomial in closed form.


          • In (5) we select the coefficient of $z^r$ of the left polynomial and we rewrite the other polynomial keeping in mind that $ngeq m$.


          • In (6) we use the rule $[z^{p-q}]A(z)=[z^p]z^qA(z)$.


          • In (7) we select the coefficient of $z^{r-2k}$.







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          We derive a binomial identity which shows the deviation of OPs sum from $frac{1}{2}binom{m+n}{r}$. It is convenient to use the coefficient of operator $[z^n]$ to denote the coefficient of $z^n$ of a series. This way we can write for instance



          begin{align*}
          binom{n}{k}=[z^k](1+z)^ntag{1}
          end{align*}




          We assume wlog $ngeq m$ and obtain
          begin{align*}
          color{blue}{sum_{k=0}^{r/2}}&color{blue}{binom{m}{2k}binom{n}{r-2k}}\
          &=sum_{kgeq 0}binom{m}{2k}[z^{r-2k}](1+z)^ntag{2}\
          &=[z^r](1+z)^nsum_{kgeq 0}binom{m}{2k}z^{2k}tag{3}\
          &=[z^r](1+z)^nfrac{1}{2}left((1+z)^m+(1-z)^mright)tag{4}\
          &=frac{1}{2}[z^r](1+z)^{m+n}+frac{1}{2}[z^r](1+z)^n(1-z)^m\
          &=frac{1}{2}binom{m+n}{r}+frac{1}{2}[z^r](1-z^2)^m(1+z)^{n-m}tag{5}\
          &=frac{1}{2}binom{m+n}{r}+frac{1}{2}[z^r]sum_{k=0}^{r/2}binom{m}{k}(-1)^kz^{2k}(1+z)^{n-m}\
          &=frac{1}{2}binom{m+n}{r}+frac{1}{2}sum_{k=0}^{r/2}binom{m}{k}(-1)^k[z^{r-2k}](1+z)^{n-m}tag{6}\
          &,,color{blue}{=frac{1}{2}binom{m+n}{r}+frac{1}{2}sum_{k=0}^{r/2}binom{m}{k}binom{n-m}{r-2k}(-1)^k}tag{7}
          end{align*}




          Comment:




          • In (2) we apply the coefficient of operator as indicated in (1) and we set the upper limit of the sum to $infty$ without changing anything since we are adding zeros only.


          • In (3) we use the linearity of the coefficient of operator.


          • In (4) we write the sum as polynomial in closed form.


          • In (5) we select the coefficient of $z^r$ of the left polynomial and we rewrite the other polynomial keeping in mind that $ngeq m$.


          • In (6) we use the rule $[z^{p-q}]A(z)=[z^p]z^qA(z)$.


          • In (7) we select the coefficient of $z^{r-2k}$.








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          • Thank you very much! I will work my way through your answer on the upcoming weekend. From the first glance I think this might exactly be what I was looking for.
            – drix
            Dec 14 '18 at 15:16










          • @drix: You're welcome. Good to see the answer is helpful.
            – Markus Scheuer
            Dec 14 '18 at 15:43


















          • Thank you very much! I will work my way through your answer on the upcoming weekend. From the first glance I think this might exactly be what I was looking for.
            – drix
            Dec 14 '18 at 15:16










          • @drix: You're welcome. Good to see the answer is helpful.
            – Markus Scheuer
            Dec 14 '18 at 15:43
















          Thank you very much! I will work my way through your answer on the upcoming weekend. From the first glance I think this might exactly be what I was looking for.
          – drix
          Dec 14 '18 at 15:16




          Thank you very much! I will work my way through your answer on the upcoming weekend. From the first glance I think this might exactly be what I was looking for.
          – drix
          Dec 14 '18 at 15:16












          @drix: You're welcome. Good to see the answer is helpful.
          – Markus Scheuer
          Dec 14 '18 at 15:43




          @drix: You're welcome. Good to see the answer is helpful.
          – Markus Scheuer
          Dec 14 '18 at 15:43











          1














          In general, having the ogf (z-Transform)
          $$
          F(z) = sumlimits_{0, le ;n} {a_{,n} ,z^{,n} }
          $$

          then
          $$
          {1 over m}sumlimits_{0 le ,k, le ,m - 1} {left( {z^{,{1 over m}} ;e^{,i,{{2kpi } over m}} } right)^{,j}
          F(z^{,{1 over m}} ;e^{,i,{{2kpi } over m}} )}
          = sumlimits_{0, le ;n} {,a_{,m;n - j} ,z^{,n} }
          $$



          But unfortunately, the truncated binomial expansion
          $$
          sumlimits_{0, le ;k} {left( matrix{ n cr r - k cr} right),z^{,k} }
          $$

          does not have in general ($r<n$) a compact closed expression.



          We can go either through the Hypergeometric version
          $$
          sumlimits_{left( {0, le } right);k,left( { le ,,r} right)} {
          binom{m}{k} binom{n}{r-k},z^{,k} }
          = binom{n}{r} ;{}_2F_{,1} left( {matrix{
          { - m,; - r} cr
          {n - r + 1} cr
          } ;left| {,z} right.} right)
          $$

          or through the double ogf
          $$
          eqalign{
          & G(x,y,n,m) = sumlimits_{0, le ,k} {left( {sumlimits_{left( {0, le } right),j,left( { le ,m} right)} {
          binom{m}{j},binom{n}{k-j} y^{,j} } } right)x^{,k} } = cr
          & = sumlimits_{left( {0, le } right),j,left( { le ,m} right)} {
          binom{m}{j}left( {x,y} right)^{,j} sumlimits_{left( {j, le } right),k,left( { le ,n} right),} { ,binom{n}{k-j}x^{,k - j} } } = cr
          & = left( {1 + xy} right)^{,m} left( {1 + x} right)^{,n} cr}
          $$



          Then for instance we have
          $$
          eqalign{
          & sumlimits_{0, le ,k} {left( {sumlimits_{left( {0, le } right),j,left( { le ,leftlfloor {min (m,k)/2} rightrfloor } right);} {
          left( matrix{ m cr 2j cr} right),left( matrix{ n cr k - 2j cr} right)} } right)x^{,k} } = cr
          & = {1 over 2}left( {G(x,1,n,m) + G(x, - 1,n,m)} right) = cr
          & = {1 over 2}left( {1 + x} right)^{,n} left( {left( {1 + x} right)^{,m} + left( {1 - x} right)^{,m} } right) = cr
          & = {1 over 2}left( {1 + x} right)^{,n + m} + {1 over 2}left( {1 + x} right)^{,n} left( {1 - x} right)^{,m} = cr
          & = {1 over 2}left( {1 + x} right)^{,n + m} + {1 over 2}left( {1 + x} right)^{,n - m} left( {1 - x^{,2} } right)^{,m} = cr
          & = {1 over 2}left( {1 + x} right)^{,n + m} + {1 over 2}left( {1 - x^{,2} } right)^{,{{n + m} over 2}}
          left( {{{1 + x} over {1 - x}}} right)^{,{{n - m} over 2}} cr}
          $$

          which clearly indicates what is the difference between
          $$
          {1 over 2}binom{n+m}{r}
          quad vsquad sumlimits_{left( {0, le } right),j,left( { le ,leftlfloor {min (m,k)/2} rightrfloor } right);} {
          binom{m}{2j} , binom{n}{r-2j} }
          $$



          Of course the complement will be
          $$
          eqalign{
          & sumlimits_{0, le ,k} {left( {sumlimits_{left( {0, le } right),j,left( { le ,leftlfloor {min (m,k)/2} rightrfloor } right);} {
          binom{m}{2j+1} ,binom{n}{k - left( {2j + 1} right)}} } right)x^{,k} } = cr
          & = {1 over 2}left( {G(x,1,n,m) - G(x, - 1,n,m)} right) = cr
          & = {1 over 2}left( {1 + x} right)^{,n} left( {left( {1 + x} right)^{,m} - left( {1 - x} right)^{,m} } right) cr}
          $$






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          • Thank you very much! I will have a closer look on your answer this weekend.
            – drix
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          • it's an interesting subject also for me ! waiting for you feedback.
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          1














          In general, having the ogf (z-Transform)
          $$
          F(z) = sumlimits_{0, le ;n} {a_{,n} ,z^{,n} }
          $$

          then
          $$
          {1 over m}sumlimits_{0 le ,k, le ,m - 1} {left( {z^{,{1 over m}} ;e^{,i,{{2kpi } over m}} } right)^{,j}
          F(z^{,{1 over m}} ;e^{,i,{{2kpi } over m}} )}
          = sumlimits_{0, le ;n} {,a_{,m;n - j} ,z^{,n} }
          $$



          But unfortunately, the truncated binomial expansion
          $$
          sumlimits_{0, le ;k} {left( matrix{ n cr r - k cr} right),z^{,k} }
          $$

          does not have in general ($r<n$) a compact closed expression.



          We can go either through the Hypergeometric version
          $$
          sumlimits_{left( {0, le } right);k,left( { le ,,r} right)} {
          binom{m}{k} binom{n}{r-k},z^{,k} }
          = binom{n}{r} ;{}_2F_{,1} left( {matrix{
          { - m,; - r} cr
          {n - r + 1} cr
          } ;left| {,z} right.} right)
          $$

          or through the double ogf
          $$
          eqalign{
          & G(x,y,n,m) = sumlimits_{0, le ,k} {left( {sumlimits_{left( {0, le } right),j,left( { le ,m} right)} {
          binom{m}{j},binom{n}{k-j} y^{,j} } } right)x^{,k} } = cr
          & = sumlimits_{left( {0, le } right),j,left( { le ,m} right)} {
          binom{m}{j}left( {x,y} right)^{,j} sumlimits_{left( {j, le } right),k,left( { le ,n} right),} { ,binom{n}{k-j}x^{,k - j} } } = cr
          & = left( {1 + xy} right)^{,m} left( {1 + x} right)^{,n} cr}
          $$



          Then for instance we have
          $$
          eqalign{
          & sumlimits_{0, le ,k} {left( {sumlimits_{left( {0, le } right),j,left( { le ,leftlfloor {min (m,k)/2} rightrfloor } right);} {
          left( matrix{ m cr 2j cr} right),left( matrix{ n cr k - 2j cr} right)} } right)x^{,k} } = cr
          & = {1 over 2}left( {G(x,1,n,m) + G(x, - 1,n,m)} right) = cr
          & = {1 over 2}left( {1 + x} right)^{,n} left( {left( {1 + x} right)^{,m} + left( {1 - x} right)^{,m} } right) = cr
          & = {1 over 2}left( {1 + x} right)^{,n + m} + {1 over 2}left( {1 + x} right)^{,n} left( {1 - x} right)^{,m} = cr
          & = {1 over 2}left( {1 + x} right)^{,n + m} + {1 over 2}left( {1 + x} right)^{,n - m} left( {1 - x^{,2} } right)^{,m} = cr
          & = {1 over 2}left( {1 + x} right)^{,n + m} + {1 over 2}left( {1 - x^{,2} } right)^{,{{n + m} over 2}}
          left( {{{1 + x} over {1 - x}}} right)^{,{{n - m} over 2}} cr}
          $$

          which clearly indicates what is the difference between
          $$
          {1 over 2}binom{n+m}{r}
          quad vsquad sumlimits_{left( {0, le } right),j,left( { le ,leftlfloor {min (m,k)/2} rightrfloor } right);} {
          binom{m}{2j} , binom{n}{r-2j} }
          $$



          Of course the complement will be
          $$
          eqalign{
          & sumlimits_{0, le ,k} {left( {sumlimits_{left( {0, le } right),j,left( { le ,leftlfloor {min (m,k)/2} rightrfloor } right);} {
          binom{m}{2j+1} ,binom{n}{k - left( {2j + 1} right)}} } right)x^{,k} } = cr
          & = {1 over 2}left( {G(x,1,n,m) - G(x, - 1,n,m)} right) = cr
          & = {1 over 2}left( {1 + x} right)^{,n} left( {left( {1 + x} right)^{,m} - left( {1 - x} right)^{,m} } right) cr}
          $$






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          • Thank you very much! I will have a closer look on your answer this weekend.
            – drix
            Dec 14 '18 at 15:18










          • it's an interesting subject also for me ! waiting for you feedback.
            – G Cab
            Dec 14 '18 at 22:18














          1












          1








          1






          In general, having the ogf (z-Transform)
          $$
          F(z) = sumlimits_{0, le ;n} {a_{,n} ,z^{,n} }
          $$

          then
          $$
          {1 over m}sumlimits_{0 le ,k, le ,m - 1} {left( {z^{,{1 over m}} ;e^{,i,{{2kpi } over m}} } right)^{,j}
          F(z^{,{1 over m}} ;e^{,i,{{2kpi } over m}} )}
          = sumlimits_{0, le ;n} {,a_{,m;n - j} ,z^{,n} }
          $$



          But unfortunately, the truncated binomial expansion
          $$
          sumlimits_{0, le ;k} {left( matrix{ n cr r - k cr} right),z^{,k} }
          $$

          does not have in general ($r<n$) a compact closed expression.



          We can go either through the Hypergeometric version
          $$
          sumlimits_{left( {0, le } right);k,left( { le ,,r} right)} {
          binom{m}{k} binom{n}{r-k},z^{,k} }
          = binom{n}{r} ;{}_2F_{,1} left( {matrix{
          { - m,; - r} cr
          {n - r + 1} cr
          } ;left| {,z} right.} right)
          $$

          or through the double ogf
          $$
          eqalign{
          & G(x,y,n,m) = sumlimits_{0, le ,k} {left( {sumlimits_{left( {0, le } right),j,left( { le ,m} right)} {
          binom{m}{j},binom{n}{k-j} y^{,j} } } right)x^{,k} } = cr
          & = sumlimits_{left( {0, le } right),j,left( { le ,m} right)} {
          binom{m}{j}left( {x,y} right)^{,j} sumlimits_{left( {j, le } right),k,left( { le ,n} right),} { ,binom{n}{k-j}x^{,k - j} } } = cr
          & = left( {1 + xy} right)^{,m} left( {1 + x} right)^{,n} cr}
          $$



          Then for instance we have
          $$
          eqalign{
          & sumlimits_{0, le ,k} {left( {sumlimits_{left( {0, le } right),j,left( { le ,leftlfloor {min (m,k)/2} rightrfloor } right);} {
          left( matrix{ m cr 2j cr} right),left( matrix{ n cr k - 2j cr} right)} } right)x^{,k} } = cr
          & = {1 over 2}left( {G(x,1,n,m) + G(x, - 1,n,m)} right) = cr
          & = {1 over 2}left( {1 + x} right)^{,n} left( {left( {1 + x} right)^{,m} + left( {1 - x} right)^{,m} } right) = cr
          & = {1 over 2}left( {1 + x} right)^{,n + m} + {1 over 2}left( {1 + x} right)^{,n} left( {1 - x} right)^{,m} = cr
          & = {1 over 2}left( {1 + x} right)^{,n + m} + {1 over 2}left( {1 + x} right)^{,n - m} left( {1 - x^{,2} } right)^{,m} = cr
          & = {1 over 2}left( {1 + x} right)^{,n + m} + {1 over 2}left( {1 - x^{,2} } right)^{,{{n + m} over 2}}
          left( {{{1 + x} over {1 - x}}} right)^{,{{n - m} over 2}} cr}
          $$

          which clearly indicates what is the difference between
          $$
          {1 over 2}binom{n+m}{r}
          quad vsquad sumlimits_{left( {0, le } right),j,left( { le ,leftlfloor {min (m,k)/2} rightrfloor } right);} {
          binom{m}{2j} , binom{n}{r-2j} }
          $$



          Of course the complement will be
          $$
          eqalign{
          & sumlimits_{0, le ,k} {left( {sumlimits_{left( {0, le } right),j,left( { le ,leftlfloor {min (m,k)/2} rightrfloor } right);} {
          binom{m}{2j+1} ,binom{n}{k - left( {2j + 1} right)}} } right)x^{,k} } = cr
          & = {1 over 2}left( {G(x,1,n,m) - G(x, - 1,n,m)} right) = cr
          & = {1 over 2}left( {1 + x} right)^{,n} left( {left( {1 + x} right)^{,m} - left( {1 - x} right)^{,m} } right) cr}
          $$






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          In general, having the ogf (z-Transform)
          $$
          F(z) = sumlimits_{0, le ;n} {a_{,n} ,z^{,n} }
          $$

          then
          $$
          {1 over m}sumlimits_{0 le ,k, le ,m - 1} {left( {z^{,{1 over m}} ;e^{,i,{{2kpi } over m}} } right)^{,j}
          F(z^{,{1 over m}} ;e^{,i,{{2kpi } over m}} )}
          = sumlimits_{0, le ;n} {,a_{,m;n - j} ,z^{,n} }
          $$



          But unfortunately, the truncated binomial expansion
          $$
          sumlimits_{0, le ;k} {left( matrix{ n cr r - k cr} right),z^{,k} }
          $$

          does not have in general ($r<n$) a compact closed expression.



          We can go either through the Hypergeometric version
          $$
          sumlimits_{left( {0, le } right);k,left( { le ,,r} right)} {
          binom{m}{k} binom{n}{r-k},z^{,k} }
          = binom{n}{r} ;{}_2F_{,1} left( {matrix{
          { - m,; - r} cr
          {n - r + 1} cr
          } ;left| {,z} right.} right)
          $$

          or through the double ogf
          $$
          eqalign{
          & G(x,y,n,m) = sumlimits_{0, le ,k} {left( {sumlimits_{left( {0, le } right),j,left( { le ,m} right)} {
          binom{m}{j},binom{n}{k-j} y^{,j} } } right)x^{,k} } = cr
          & = sumlimits_{left( {0, le } right),j,left( { le ,m} right)} {
          binom{m}{j}left( {x,y} right)^{,j} sumlimits_{left( {j, le } right),k,left( { le ,n} right),} { ,binom{n}{k-j}x^{,k - j} } } = cr
          & = left( {1 + xy} right)^{,m} left( {1 + x} right)^{,n} cr}
          $$



          Then for instance we have
          $$
          eqalign{
          & sumlimits_{0, le ,k} {left( {sumlimits_{left( {0, le } right),j,left( { le ,leftlfloor {min (m,k)/2} rightrfloor } right);} {
          left( matrix{ m cr 2j cr} right),left( matrix{ n cr k - 2j cr} right)} } right)x^{,k} } = cr
          & = {1 over 2}left( {G(x,1,n,m) + G(x, - 1,n,m)} right) = cr
          & = {1 over 2}left( {1 + x} right)^{,n} left( {left( {1 + x} right)^{,m} + left( {1 - x} right)^{,m} } right) = cr
          & = {1 over 2}left( {1 + x} right)^{,n + m} + {1 over 2}left( {1 + x} right)^{,n} left( {1 - x} right)^{,m} = cr
          & = {1 over 2}left( {1 + x} right)^{,n + m} + {1 over 2}left( {1 + x} right)^{,n - m} left( {1 - x^{,2} } right)^{,m} = cr
          & = {1 over 2}left( {1 + x} right)^{,n + m} + {1 over 2}left( {1 - x^{,2} } right)^{,{{n + m} over 2}}
          left( {{{1 + x} over {1 - x}}} right)^{,{{n - m} over 2}} cr}
          $$

          which clearly indicates what is the difference between
          $$
          {1 over 2}binom{n+m}{r}
          quad vsquad sumlimits_{left( {0, le } right),j,left( { le ,leftlfloor {min (m,k)/2} rightrfloor } right);} {
          binom{m}{2j} , binom{n}{r-2j} }
          $$



          Of course the complement will be
          $$
          eqalign{
          & sumlimits_{0, le ,k} {left( {sumlimits_{left( {0, le } right),j,left( { le ,leftlfloor {min (m,k)/2} rightrfloor } right);} {
          binom{m}{2j+1} ,binom{n}{k - left( {2j + 1} right)}} } right)x^{,k} } = cr
          & = {1 over 2}left( {G(x,1,n,m) - G(x, - 1,n,m)} right) = cr
          & = {1 over 2}left( {1 + x} right)^{,n} left( {left( {1 + x} right)^{,m} - left( {1 - x} right)^{,m} } right) cr}
          $$







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          • Thank you very much! I will have a closer look on your answer this weekend.
            – drix
            Dec 14 '18 at 15:18










          • it's an interesting subject also for me ! waiting for you feedback.
            – G Cab
            Dec 14 '18 at 22:18


















          • Thank you very much! I will have a closer look on your answer this weekend.
            – drix
            Dec 14 '18 at 15:18










          • it's an interesting subject also for me ! waiting for you feedback.
            – G Cab
            Dec 14 '18 at 22:18
















          Thank you very much! I will have a closer look on your answer this weekend.
          – drix
          Dec 14 '18 at 15:18




          Thank you very much! I will have a closer look on your answer this weekend.
          – drix
          Dec 14 '18 at 15:18












          it's an interesting subject also for me ! waiting for you feedback.
          – G Cab
          Dec 14 '18 at 22:18




          it's an interesting subject also for me ! waiting for you feedback.
          – G Cab
          Dec 14 '18 at 22:18


















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