Set $f(x)=sum a_n x^n$ , $f$ is well defined on a nonempty set $A$ . If $f(x) = 0$ for all $x in A$ , can we...












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Set $f(x)=sum a_n x^n$ ,$x in C$ . $A$ is a subset of $C$ , $f$ is well defined on $A$ and only on $A$ ,$A-0$ is nonempty. If $f(x) = 0$ for all $x in A$ , can we prove that $a_n=0$ for all $n$ ?



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If $B$ is an open set in $A$ , then $f$ has derivatives of all orders in $B$ . Since $f=0$ in $B$ , $f^{(n)}(x)=0$ in $B$ , this implies that $a_n = 0$ .

I'm not sure whether this proof is right , and I think there might have some other direct and rigorous proof .










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    I expect you are talking about $f$ being an infinite sum and $f$ is well-defined as in the series converges?
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    Yes , I am learning holomorphic function and power series right now .
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    If all you know is that $A$ is nonempty, this is very false. Consider the fact that $sin(z)=0$ for $zin {kpi: kinBbb Z}$.
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Set $f(x)=sum a_n x^n$ ,$x in C$ . $A$ is a subset of $C$ , $f$ is well defined on $A$ and only on $A$ ,$A-0$ is nonempty. If $f(x) = 0$ for all $x in A$ , can we prove that $a_n=0$ for all $n$ ?



My attempt:
If $B$ is an open set in $A$ , then $f$ has derivatives of all orders in $B$ . Since $f=0$ in $B$ , $f^{(n)}(x)=0$ in $B$ , this implies that $a_n = 0$ .

I'm not sure whether this proof is right , and I think there might have some other direct and rigorous proof .










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    I expect you are talking about $f$ being an infinite sum and $f$ is well-defined as in the series converges?
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    Yes , I am learning holomorphic function and power series right now .
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    If all you know is that $A$ is nonempty, this is very false. Consider the fact that $sin(z)=0$ for $zin {kpi: kinBbb Z}$.
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Set $f(x)=sum a_n x^n$ ,$x in C$ . $A$ is a subset of $C$ , $f$ is well defined on $A$ and only on $A$ ,$A-0$ is nonempty. If $f(x) = 0$ for all $x in A$ , can we prove that $a_n=0$ for all $n$ ?



My attempt:
If $B$ is an open set in $A$ , then $f$ has derivatives of all orders in $B$ . Since $f=0$ in $B$ , $f^{(n)}(x)=0$ in $B$ , this implies that $a_n = 0$ .

I'm not sure whether this proof is right , and I think there might have some other direct and rigorous proof .










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Set $f(x)=sum a_n x^n$ ,$x in C$ . $A$ is a subset of $C$ , $f$ is well defined on $A$ and only on $A$ ,$A-0$ is nonempty. If $f(x) = 0$ for all $x in A$ , can we prove that $a_n=0$ for all $n$ ?



My attempt:
If $B$ is an open set in $A$ , then $f$ has derivatives of all orders in $B$ . Since $f=0$ in $B$ , $f^{(n)}(x)=0$ in $B$ , this implies that $a_n = 0$ .

I'm not sure whether this proof is right , and I think there might have some other direct and rigorous proof .







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    I expect you are talking about $f$ being an infinite sum and $f$ is well-defined as in the series converges?
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    Yes , I am learning holomorphic function and power series right now .
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    If all you know is that $A$ is nonempty, this is very false. Consider the fact that $sin(z)=0$ for $zin {kpi: kinBbb Z}$.
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    – Ted Shifrin
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    I expect you are talking about $f$ being an infinite sum and $f$ is well-defined as in the series converges?
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    – SmileyCraft
    Dec 19 '18 at 17:27










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    Yes , I am learning holomorphic function and power series right now .
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    – J.Guo
    Dec 19 '18 at 17:32










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    If all you know is that $A$ is nonempty, this is very false. Consider the fact that $sin(z)=0$ for $zin {kpi: kinBbb Z}$.
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    – Ted Shifrin
    Dec 19 '18 at 18:30
















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I expect you are talking about $f$ being an infinite sum and $f$ is well-defined as in the series converges?
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– SmileyCraft
Dec 19 '18 at 17:27




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I expect you are talking about $f$ being an infinite sum and $f$ is well-defined as in the series converges?
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– SmileyCraft
Dec 19 '18 at 17:27












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Yes , I am learning holomorphic function and power series right now .
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– J.Guo
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Yes , I am learning holomorphic function and power series right now .
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– J.Guo
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If all you know is that $A$ is nonempty, this is very false. Consider the fact that $sin(z)=0$ for $zin {kpi: kinBbb Z}$.
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– Ted Shifrin
Dec 19 '18 at 18:30




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If all you know is that $A$ is nonempty, this is very false. Consider the fact that $sin(z)=0$ for $zin {kpi: kinBbb Z}$.
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Assume $f(x)=sum a_nx^n$ converges exactly on $Asubsetmathbb{R}$ with $Asetminus{0}neqemptyset$. Let $rin Asetminus{0}$. Because every infinite series has a radius of convergence, such that everything strictly within that radius makes the series converge, while everything strictly outside the radius makes the series diverge, we find that ${xinmathbb{R}:|x|<|r|}subset A$. Because $|r|>0$ we find an interval where the series of $f$ converges.



For the final step, use the fact that an analytic function is entirely defined by its local behaviour. If an analytic function is identically $0$ on some non-discrete set (for example an interval) then all power series coefficients are $0$.






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    I have learned that a holomorphic function is determined by its restriction to any open subset of its domain of definition , but this question seems so obvious , is there an primary proof of this ?
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    I remember being assigned to prove that an analytic function that vanishes on a non-discrete set must have all its power series coefficients $0$. This was pretty tedious. The proof is by induction. If the first $n$ terms are $0$, you can write $f(x)=a_nx^n+x^{n+1}g(x)$ for some analytic $g$. Then use some estimate to show that $g$ is negligable close to $x=0$.
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I don't think the set necessarily has to have any topology on it, so we can create counterexamples where the idea of an "open" set doesn't make any sense. For example, if $A=mathbb{F}_2$, we can choose $a_0=0,a_1=a_2=1$ to get



$$x+x^2,$$



a polynomial which is identically $0$ on $mathbb{F}_2$ but still has nonzero coefficients.






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    I believe the OP means that $f$ is well-defined on $A$ and only on $A$, so if $f(x)=x^2+x$ then $A=mathbb{R}$.
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    @SmileyCraft The (implied) coefficient of $1$ here on each of $x$ and $x^2$ is the multiplicative identify in $mathbb{F}_2$, not in $mathbb{R}$. This polynomial is thus not defined anywhere outside of $mathbb{F}_2$.
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For simplicity, I will assume $A$ is connected otherwise repeat the proof to each component. Observe first that if $f(z)$ is analytic on $A$, then it has an open neighborhood where it's analytic on so $A$ has infinitely many elements. I will even weaken the assumptions given and only use that we need a limit point inside $A$ (this is known as the identity theorem).



So by Heine-Borel, we know there exists a limit point $z^*$ inside $A$ such that $f(z_k) = 0$ for all $z_k rightarrow z^{*}$. Then by analyticity begin{equation} f(z) = a_k(z-z^*)^k + sum_{n=0}^{infty} a_{k+1+n}(z-z^*)^{k+1+n} end{equation} where $k$ is chosen as the minimal integer such that $a_k neq 0$ (otherwise we'll be done). Then begin{equation} frac{f(z)}{(z-z^*)^k} = a_k + sum_{n=0}^{infty} a_{n+1+k}(z-z^*)^{n+1} end{equation} But observe as for all $z_j$ the left hand side is 0, we see by continuity at $z=z^*$, the left hand side is 0. But at $z^*$ the sum is 0, so it implies $a_k$ must be zero; therefore, we have a contradiction. In particular, this shows that every point where the power series of $z^*$ converges is identically 0.



In particular we have shown that $U = {z: f(z) = 0}$ is open. But also since $f$ is continuous, so the pre-image of a singleton must be closed, which means $U$ is closed, open and non-empty. Then as $A$ is connected (or repeat the proof to each connected component), we see $U = A$. So $f$ is identically $0$ over A.






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    Assume $f(x)=sum a_nx^n$ converges exactly on $Asubsetmathbb{R}$ with $Asetminus{0}neqemptyset$. Let $rin Asetminus{0}$. Because every infinite series has a radius of convergence, such that everything strictly within that radius makes the series converge, while everything strictly outside the radius makes the series diverge, we find that ${xinmathbb{R}:|x|<|r|}subset A$. Because $|r|>0$ we find an interval where the series of $f$ converges.



    For the final step, use the fact that an analytic function is entirely defined by its local behaviour. If an analytic function is identically $0$ on some non-discrete set (for example an interval) then all power series coefficients are $0$.






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      I have learned that a holomorphic function is determined by its restriction to any open subset of its domain of definition , but this question seems so obvious , is there an primary proof of this ?
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      I remember being assigned to prove that an analytic function that vanishes on a non-discrete set must have all its power series coefficients $0$. This was pretty tedious. The proof is by induction. If the first $n$ terms are $0$, you can write $f(x)=a_nx^n+x^{n+1}g(x)$ for some analytic $g$. Then use some estimate to show that $g$ is negligable close to $x=0$.
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    Assume $f(x)=sum a_nx^n$ converges exactly on $Asubsetmathbb{R}$ with $Asetminus{0}neqemptyset$. Let $rin Asetminus{0}$. Because every infinite series has a radius of convergence, such that everything strictly within that radius makes the series converge, while everything strictly outside the radius makes the series diverge, we find that ${xinmathbb{R}:|x|<|r|}subset A$. Because $|r|>0$ we find an interval where the series of $f$ converges.



    For the final step, use the fact that an analytic function is entirely defined by its local behaviour. If an analytic function is identically $0$ on some non-discrete set (for example an interval) then all power series coefficients are $0$.






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      I have learned that a holomorphic function is determined by its restriction to any open subset of its domain of definition , but this question seems so obvious , is there an primary proof of this ?
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      I remember being assigned to prove that an analytic function that vanishes on a non-discrete set must have all its power series coefficients $0$. This was pretty tedious. The proof is by induction. If the first $n$ terms are $0$, you can write $f(x)=a_nx^n+x^{n+1}g(x)$ for some analytic $g$. Then use some estimate to show that $g$ is negligable close to $x=0$.
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    Assume $f(x)=sum a_nx^n$ converges exactly on $Asubsetmathbb{R}$ with $Asetminus{0}neqemptyset$. Let $rin Asetminus{0}$. Because every infinite series has a radius of convergence, such that everything strictly within that radius makes the series converge, while everything strictly outside the radius makes the series diverge, we find that ${xinmathbb{R}:|x|<|r|}subset A$. Because $|r|>0$ we find an interval where the series of $f$ converges.



    For the final step, use the fact that an analytic function is entirely defined by its local behaviour. If an analytic function is identically $0$ on some non-discrete set (for example an interval) then all power series coefficients are $0$.






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    Assume $f(x)=sum a_nx^n$ converges exactly on $Asubsetmathbb{R}$ with $Asetminus{0}neqemptyset$. Let $rin Asetminus{0}$. Because every infinite series has a radius of convergence, such that everything strictly within that radius makes the series converge, while everything strictly outside the radius makes the series diverge, we find that ${xinmathbb{R}:|x|<|r|}subset A$. Because $|r|>0$ we find an interval where the series of $f$ converges.



    For the final step, use the fact that an analytic function is entirely defined by its local behaviour. If an analytic function is identically $0$ on some non-discrete set (for example an interval) then all power series coefficients are $0$.







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      I have learned that a holomorphic function is determined by its restriction to any open subset of its domain of definition , but this question seems so obvious , is there an primary proof of this ?
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      I remember being assigned to prove that an analytic function that vanishes on a non-discrete set must have all its power series coefficients $0$. This was pretty tedious. The proof is by induction. If the first $n$ terms are $0$, you can write $f(x)=a_nx^n+x^{n+1}g(x)$ for some analytic $g$. Then use some estimate to show that $g$ is negligable close to $x=0$.
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      I have learned that a holomorphic function is determined by its restriction to any open subset of its domain of definition , but this question seems so obvious , is there an primary proof of this ?
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      Dec 19 '18 at 17:40










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      I remember being assigned to prove that an analytic function that vanishes on a non-discrete set must have all its power series coefficients $0$. This was pretty tedious. The proof is by induction. If the first $n$ terms are $0$, you can write $f(x)=a_nx^n+x^{n+1}g(x)$ for some analytic $g$. Then use some estimate to show that $g$ is negligable close to $x=0$.
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    I have learned that a holomorphic function is determined by its restriction to any open subset of its domain of definition , but this question seems so obvious , is there an primary proof of this ?
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    I have learned that a holomorphic function is determined by its restriction to any open subset of its domain of definition , but this question seems so obvious , is there an primary proof of this ?
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    I remember being assigned to prove that an analytic function that vanishes on a non-discrete set must have all its power series coefficients $0$. This was pretty tedious. The proof is by induction. If the first $n$ terms are $0$, you can write $f(x)=a_nx^n+x^{n+1}g(x)$ for some analytic $g$. Then use some estimate to show that $g$ is negligable close to $x=0$.
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    I remember being assigned to prove that an analytic function that vanishes on a non-discrete set must have all its power series coefficients $0$. This was pretty tedious. The proof is by induction. If the first $n$ terms are $0$, you can write $f(x)=a_nx^n+x^{n+1}g(x)$ for some analytic $g$. Then use some estimate to show that $g$ is negligable close to $x=0$.
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    I don't think the set necessarily has to have any topology on it, so we can create counterexamples where the idea of an "open" set doesn't make any sense. For example, if $A=mathbb{F}_2$, we can choose $a_0=0,a_1=a_2=1$ to get



    $$x+x^2,$$



    a polynomial which is identically $0$ on $mathbb{F}_2$ but still has nonzero coefficients.






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      I believe the OP means that $f$ is well-defined on $A$ and only on $A$, so if $f(x)=x^2+x$ then $A=mathbb{R}$.
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      @SmileyCraft The (implied) coefficient of $1$ here on each of $x$ and $x^2$ is the multiplicative identify in $mathbb{F}_2$, not in $mathbb{R}$. This polynomial is thus not defined anywhere outside of $mathbb{F}_2$.
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      @ SmileyCraft Yes , I will edit my question.
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      @CarlSchildkraut I believe the OP also was talking about real-valued functions.
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      I want to talk about the real-valued function or the complexed function , but I'm not sure how to edit to show this .
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    I don't think the set necessarily has to have any topology on it, so we can create counterexamples where the idea of an "open" set doesn't make any sense. For example, if $A=mathbb{F}_2$, we can choose $a_0=0,a_1=a_2=1$ to get



    $$x+x^2,$$



    a polynomial which is identically $0$ on $mathbb{F}_2$ but still has nonzero coefficients.






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      I believe the OP means that $f$ is well-defined on $A$ and only on $A$, so if $f(x)=x^2+x$ then $A=mathbb{R}$.
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      @SmileyCraft The (implied) coefficient of $1$ here on each of $x$ and $x^2$ is the multiplicative identify in $mathbb{F}_2$, not in $mathbb{R}$. This polynomial is thus not defined anywhere outside of $mathbb{F}_2$.
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      @ SmileyCraft Yes , I will edit my question.
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      @CarlSchildkraut I believe the OP also was talking about real-valued functions.
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      I want to talk about the real-valued function or the complexed function , but I'm not sure how to edit to show this .
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    I don't think the set necessarily has to have any topology on it, so we can create counterexamples where the idea of an "open" set doesn't make any sense. For example, if $A=mathbb{F}_2$, we can choose $a_0=0,a_1=a_2=1$ to get



    $$x+x^2,$$



    a polynomial which is identically $0$ on $mathbb{F}_2$ but still has nonzero coefficients.






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    I don't think the set necessarily has to have any topology on it, so we can create counterexamples where the idea of an "open" set doesn't make any sense. For example, if $A=mathbb{F}_2$, we can choose $a_0=0,a_1=a_2=1$ to get



    $$x+x^2,$$



    a polynomial which is identically $0$ on $mathbb{F}_2$ but still has nonzero coefficients.







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      I believe the OP means that $f$ is well-defined on $A$ and only on $A$, so if $f(x)=x^2+x$ then $A=mathbb{R}$.
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      @SmileyCraft The (implied) coefficient of $1$ here on each of $x$ and $x^2$ is the multiplicative identify in $mathbb{F}_2$, not in $mathbb{R}$. This polynomial is thus not defined anywhere outside of $mathbb{F}_2$.
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      @ SmileyCraft Yes , I will edit my question.
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      @CarlSchildkraut I believe the OP also was talking about real-valued functions.
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      I want to talk about the real-valued function or the complexed function , but I'm not sure how to edit to show this .
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      I believe the OP means that $f$ is well-defined on $A$ and only on $A$, so if $f(x)=x^2+x$ then $A=mathbb{R}$.
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      @SmileyCraft The (implied) coefficient of $1$ here on each of $x$ and $x^2$ is the multiplicative identify in $mathbb{F}_2$, not in $mathbb{R}$. This polynomial is thus not defined anywhere outside of $mathbb{F}_2$.
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      @ SmileyCraft Yes , I will edit my question.
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      – J.Guo
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      @CarlSchildkraut I believe the OP also was talking about real-valued functions.
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      – SmileyCraft
      Dec 19 '18 at 17:26










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      I want to talk about the real-valued function or the complexed function , but I'm not sure how to edit to show this .
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      – J.Guo
      Dec 19 '18 at 17:30


















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    I believe the OP means that $f$ is well-defined on $A$ and only on $A$, so if $f(x)=x^2+x$ then $A=mathbb{R}$.
    $endgroup$
    – SmileyCraft
    Dec 19 '18 at 17:22




    $begingroup$
    I believe the OP means that $f$ is well-defined on $A$ and only on $A$, so if $f(x)=x^2+x$ then $A=mathbb{R}$.
    $endgroup$
    – SmileyCraft
    Dec 19 '18 at 17:22












    $begingroup$
    @SmileyCraft The (implied) coefficient of $1$ here on each of $x$ and $x^2$ is the multiplicative identify in $mathbb{F}_2$, not in $mathbb{R}$. This polynomial is thus not defined anywhere outside of $mathbb{F}_2$.
    $endgroup$
    – Carl Schildkraut
    Dec 19 '18 at 17:25




    $begingroup$
    @SmileyCraft The (implied) coefficient of $1$ here on each of $x$ and $x^2$ is the multiplicative identify in $mathbb{F}_2$, not in $mathbb{R}$. This polynomial is thus not defined anywhere outside of $mathbb{F}_2$.
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    – Carl Schildkraut
    Dec 19 '18 at 17:25












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    @ SmileyCraft Yes , I will edit my question.
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    – J.Guo
    Dec 19 '18 at 17:26






    $begingroup$
    @ SmileyCraft Yes , I will edit my question.
    $endgroup$
    – J.Guo
    Dec 19 '18 at 17:26














    $begingroup$
    @CarlSchildkraut I believe the OP also was talking about real-valued functions.
    $endgroup$
    – SmileyCraft
    Dec 19 '18 at 17:26




    $begingroup$
    @CarlSchildkraut I believe the OP also was talking about real-valued functions.
    $endgroup$
    – SmileyCraft
    Dec 19 '18 at 17:26












    $begingroup$
    I want to talk about the real-valued function or the complexed function , but I'm not sure how to edit to show this .
    $endgroup$
    – J.Guo
    Dec 19 '18 at 17:30






    $begingroup$
    I want to talk about the real-valued function or the complexed function , but I'm not sure how to edit to show this .
    $endgroup$
    – J.Guo
    Dec 19 '18 at 17:30













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    For simplicity, I will assume $A$ is connected otherwise repeat the proof to each component. Observe first that if $f(z)$ is analytic on $A$, then it has an open neighborhood where it's analytic on so $A$ has infinitely many elements. I will even weaken the assumptions given and only use that we need a limit point inside $A$ (this is known as the identity theorem).



    So by Heine-Borel, we know there exists a limit point $z^*$ inside $A$ such that $f(z_k) = 0$ for all $z_k rightarrow z^{*}$. Then by analyticity begin{equation} f(z) = a_k(z-z^*)^k + sum_{n=0}^{infty} a_{k+1+n}(z-z^*)^{k+1+n} end{equation} where $k$ is chosen as the minimal integer such that $a_k neq 0$ (otherwise we'll be done). Then begin{equation} frac{f(z)}{(z-z^*)^k} = a_k + sum_{n=0}^{infty} a_{n+1+k}(z-z^*)^{n+1} end{equation} But observe as for all $z_j$ the left hand side is 0, we see by continuity at $z=z^*$, the left hand side is 0. But at $z^*$ the sum is 0, so it implies $a_k$ must be zero; therefore, we have a contradiction. In particular, this shows that every point where the power series of $z^*$ converges is identically 0.



    In particular we have shown that $U = {z: f(z) = 0}$ is open. But also since $f$ is continuous, so the pre-image of a singleton must be closed, which means $U$ is closed, open and non-empty. Then as $A$ is connected (or repeat the proof to each connected component), we see $U = A$. So $f$ is identically $0$ over A.






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      For simplicity, I will assume $A$ is connected otherwise repeat the proof to each component. Observe first that if $f(z)$ is analytic on $A$, then it has an open neighborhood where it's analytic on so $A$ has infinitely many elements. I will even weaken the assumptions given and only use that we need a limit point inside $A$ (this is known as the identity theorem).



      So by Heine-Borel, we know there exists a limit point $z^*$ inside $A$ such that $f(z_k) = 0$ for all $z_k rightarrow z^{*}$. Then by analyticity begin{equation} f(z) = a_k(z-z^*)^k + sum_{n=0}^{infty} a_{k+1+n}(z-z^*)^{k+1+n} end{equation} where $k$ is chosen as the minimal integer such that $a_k neq 0$ (otherwise we'll be done). Then begin{equation} frac{f(z)}{(z-z^*)^k} = a_k + sum_{n=0}^{infty} a_{n+1+k}(z-z^*)^{n+1} end{equation} But observe as for all $z_j$ the left hand side is 0, we see by continuity at $z=z^*$, the left hand side is 0. But at $z^*$ the sum is 0, so it implies $a_k$ must be zero; therefore, we have a contradiction. In particular, this shows that every point where the power series of $z^*$ converges is identically 0.



      In particular we have shown that $U = {z: f(z) = 0}$ is open. But also since $f$ is continuous, so the pre-image of a singleton must be closed, which means $U$ is closed, open and non-empty. Then as $A$ is connected (or repeat the proof to each connected component), we see $U = A$. So $f$ is identically $0$ over A.






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        For simplicity, I will assume $A$ is connected otherwise repeat the proof to each component. Observe first that if $f(z)$ is analytic on $A$, then it has an open neighborhood where it's analytic on so $A$ has infinitely many elements. I will even weaken the assumptions given and only use that we need a limit point inside $A$ (this is known as the identity theorem).



        So by Heine-Borel, we know there exists a limit point $z^*$ inside $A$ such that $f(z_k) = 0$ for all $z_k rightarrow z^{*}$. Then by analyticity begin{equation} f(z) = a_k(z-z^*)^k + sum_{n=0}^{infty} a_{k+1+n}(z-z^*)^{k+1+n} end{equation} where $k$ is chosen as the minimal integer such that $a_k neq 0$ (otherwise we'll be done). Then begin{equation} frac{f(z)}{(z-z^*)^k} = a_k + sum_{n=0}^{infty} a_{n+1+k}(z-z^*)^{n+1} end{equation} But observe as for all $z_j$ the left hand side is 0, we see by continuity at $z=z^*$, the left hand side is 0. But at $z^*$ the sum is 0, so it implies $a_k$ must be zero; therefore, we have a contradiction. In particular, this shows that every point where the power series of $z^*$ converges is identically 0.



        In particular we have shown that $U = {z: f(z) = 0}$ is open. But also since $f$ is continuous, so the pre-image of a singleton must be closed, which means $U$ is closed, open and non-empty. Then as $A$ is connected (or repeat the proof to each connected component), we see $U = A$. So $f$ is identically $0$ over A.






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        For simplicity, I will assume $A$ is connected otherwise repeat the proof to each component. Observe first that if $f(z)$ is analytic on $A$, then it has an open neighborhood where it's analytic on so $A$ has infinitely many elements. I will even weaken the assumptions given and only use that we need a limit point inside $A$ (this is known as the identity theorem).



        So by Heine-Borel, we know there exists a limit point $z^*$ inside $A$ such that $f(z_k) = 0$ for all $z_k rightarrow z^{*}$. Then by analyticity begin{equation} f(z) = a_k(z-z^*)^k + sum_{n=0}^{infty} a_{k+1+n}(z-z^*)^{k+1+n} end{equation} where $k$ is chosen as the minimal integer such that $a_k neq 0$ (otherwise we'll be done). Then begin{equation} frac{f(z)}{(z-z^*)^k} = a_k + sum_{n=0}^{infty} a_{n+1+k}(z-z^*)^{n+1} end{equation} But observe as for all $z_j$ the left hand side is 0, we see by continuity at $z=z^*$, the left hand side is 0. But at $z^*$ the sum is 0, so it implies $a_k$ must be zero; therefore, we have a contradiction. In particular, this shows that every point where the power series of $z^*$ converges is identically 0.



        In particular we have shown that $U = {z: f(z) = 0}$ is open. But also since $f$ is continuous, so the pre-image of a singleton must be closed, which means $U$ is closed, open and non-empty. Then as $A$ is connected (or repeat the proof to each connected component), we see $U = A$. So $f$ is identically $0$ over A.







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