Checking the proof of: find all primes $p$ such that $p^2mid 5^{p^2} +1$
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Find all primes $p$ such that $$p^2 mid 5^{p^2} +1$$
Okay, so I got this:
$x = 5^{p^2} +1 = (5^p)^p +1$. In order to use Eulers theorem, I checked that $(5^p, p^2) = 1$, which is true when $p ne 5$.
So, because $varphi(p^2) = p$, it follows that $(5^p)^p + 1 equiv 1 + 1 equiv 2 (modp)$. So, when $pne5$, $x$ is not divisible by $p^2$.
Easy to check that it's not divisible for $p=5$.
My textbook says that answer is $p=3$, which is true when I plug it into $x$.
So what's wrong with my try ?
If the whole approach is wrong, please post solution to this problem, as my textbook only gives final result.
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Find all primes $p$ such that $$p^2 mid 5^{p^2} +1$$
Okay, so I got this:
$x = 5^{p^2} +1 = (5^p)^p +1$. In order to use Eulers theorem, I checked that $(5^p, p^2) = 1$, which is true when $p ne 5$.
So, because $varphi(p^2) = p$, it follows that $(5^p)^p + 1 equiv 1 + 1 equiv 2 (modp)$. So, when $pne5$, $x$ is not divisible by $p^2$.
Easy to check that it's not divisible for $p=5$.
My textbook says that answer is $p=3$, which is true when I plug it into $x$.
So what's wrong with my try ?
If the whole approach is wrong, please post solution to this problem, as my textbook only gives final result.
elementary-number-theory divisibility
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Find all primes $p$ such that $$p^2 mid 5^{p^2} +1$$
Okay, so I got this:
$x = 5^{p^2} +1 = (5^p)^p +1$. In order to use Eulers theorem, I checked that $(5^p, p^2) = 1$, which is true when $p ne 5$.
So, because $varphi(p^2) = p$, it follows that $(5^p)^p + 1 equiv 1 + 1 equiv 2 (modp)$. So, when $pne5$, $x$ is not divisible by $p^2$.
Easy to check that it's not divisible for $p=5$.
My textbook says that answer is $p=3$, which is true when I plug it into $x$.
So what's wrong with my try ?
If the whole approach is wrong, please post solution to this problem, as my textbook only gives final result.
elementary-number-theory divisibility
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Find all primes $p$ such that $$p^2 mid 5^{p^2} +1$$
Okay, so I got this:
$x = 5^{p^2} +1 = (5^p)^p +1$. In order to use Eulers theorem, I checked that $(5^p, p^2) = 1$, which is true when $p ne 5$.
So, because $varphi(p^2) = p$, it follows that $(5^p)^p + 1 equiv 1 + 1 equiv 2 (modp)$. So, when $pne5$, $x$ is not divisible by $p^2$.
Easy to check that it's not divisible for $p=5$.
My textbook says that answer is $p=3$, which is true when I plug it into $x$.
So what's wrong with my try ?
If the whole approach is wrong, please post solution to this problem, as my textbook only gives final result.
elementary-number-theory divisibility
elementary-number-theory divisibility
edited Dec 19 '18 at 17:55
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Clearly, $pne5$. Then Fermat gives
$$
-1 equiv 5^{p^2} equiv (5^{p}){^p} equiv 5^{p} equiv 5 bmod p
$$
and so $p$ divides $6$. Now $p=2$ does not work but $p=3$ does work.
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That's right, thanks!
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– user626177
Dec 19 '18 at 17:46
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$p=2$ does not work because $a^2not equiv 2 pmod 4$
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– Maged Saeed
Dec 20 '18 at 4:39
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It is not correct since $varphi(p^2) = p(color{red}{p-1})$, but you can repair it easly.
All congruences are modulo $p^2$. So we have by Euler (since $pne 5$)
$$ 5^{p^2-p} equiv -1 implies 5^pequiv 5^{p^2}equiv -1$$
So $pmid 5^p+1$, but by Fermat little theorem we have $pmid 5^p-5$ so $$pmid (5^p+1)-(5^p-5) = 6 implies p=2;;{rm or};;p=3$$
Only $p=3$ works...
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Holy **** that was stupid. I'll try fixing it now
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– user626177
Dec 19 '18 at 17:36
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If $5^{p^2} + 1$ is divisible by $p^2$, it must also be divisible by $p$
Freshman's dream...
Over a finite fields:
$(a + b)^{p^n}equiv a^{p^n} + b^{p^n} pmod{p}$
$5^{p^2} + 1^{p^2} equiv (5+1)^{p^2}equiv 0 pmod p$
$p$ divides $6$
leaving us with only 2 candidates to check.
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Never heard of it, will check it out. Seems like an overkill for problems I need to do. Thanks!
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– user626177
Dec 19 '18 at 19:13
1
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Usually, the Freshman's dream is written as $(a+b)^2 = a^2+ b^2$ which is of course the mistake that a high-school freshman would make in his algebra class. But, oddly enough is true over rings with the right characteristic.
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Dec 19 '18 at 20:55
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Clearly, $pne5$. Then Fermat gives
$$
-1 equiv 5^{p^2} equiv (5^{p}){^p} equiv 5^{p} equiv 5 bmod p
$$
and so $p$ divides $6$. Now $p=2$ does not work but $p=3$ does work.
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That's right, thanks!
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– user626177
Dec 19 '18 at 17:46
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$p=2$ does not work because $a^2not equiv 2 pmod 4$
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– Maged Saeed
Dec 20 '18 at 4:39
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Clearly, $pne5$. Then Fermat gives
$$
-1 equiv 5^{p^2} equiv (5^{p}){^p} equiv 5^{p} equiv 5 bmod p
$$
and so $p$ divides $6$. Now $p=2$ does not work but $p=3$ does work.
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$begingroup$
That's right, thanks!
$endgroup$
– user626177
Dec 19 '18 at 17:46
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$p=2$ does not work because $a^2not equiv 2 pmod 4$
$endgroup$
– Maged Saeed
Dec 20 '18 at 4:39
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Clearly, $pne5$. Then Fermat gives
$$
-1 equiv 5^{p^2} equiv (5^{p}){^p} equiv 5^{p} equiv 5 bmod p
$$
and so $p$ divides $6$. Now $p=2$ does not work but $p=3$ does work.
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Clearly, $pne5$. Then Fermat gives
$$
-1 equiv 5^{p^2} equiv (5^{p}){^p} equiv 5^{p} equiv 5 bmod p
$$
and so $p$ divides $6$. Now $p=2$ does not work but $p=3$ does work.
edited Dec 19 '18 at 17:47
answered Dec 19 '18 at 17:44
lhflhf
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That's right, thanks!
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– user626177
Dec 19 '18 at 17:46
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$p=2$ does not work because $a^2not equiv 2 pmod 4$
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– Maged Saeed
Dec 20 '18 at 4:39
add a comment |
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That's right, thanks!
$endgroup$
– user626177
Dec 19 '18 at 17:46
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$p=2$ does not work because $a^2not equiv 2 pmod 4$
$endgroup$
– Maged Saeed
Dec 20 '18 at 4:39
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That's right, thanks!
$endgroup$
– user626177
Dec 19 '18 at 17:46
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That's right, thanks!
$endgroup$
– user626177
Dec 19 '18 at 17:46
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$p=2$ does not work because $a^2not equiv 2 pmod 4$
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– Maged Saeed
Dec 20 '18 at 4:39
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$p=2$ does not work because $a^2not equiv 2 pmod 4$
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– Maged Saeed
Dec 20 '18 at 4:39
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It is not correct since $varphi(p^2) = p(color{red}{p-1})$, but you can repair it easly.
All congruences are modulo $p^2$. So we have by Euler (since $pne 5$)
$$ 5^{p^2-p} equiv -1 implies 5^pequiv 5^{p^2}equiv -1$$
So $pmid 5^p+1$, but by Fermat little theorem we have $pmid 5^p-5$ so $$pmid (5^p+1)-(5^p-5) = 6 implies p=2;;{rm or};;p=3$$
Only $p=3$ works...
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Holy **** that was stupid. I'll try fixing it now
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– user626177
Dec 19 '18 at 17:36
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It is not correct since $varphi(p^2) = p(color{red}{p-1})$, but you can repair it easly.
All congruences are modulo $p^2$. So we have by Euler (since $pne 5$)
$$ 5^{p^2-p} equiv -1 implies 5^pequiv 5^{p^2}equiv -1$$
So $pmid 5^p+1$, but by Fermat little theorem we have $pmid 5^p-5$ so $$pmid (5^p+1)-(5^p-5) = 6 implies p=2;;{rm or};;p=3$$
Only $p=3$ works...
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
Holy **** that was stupid. I'll try fixing it now
$endgroup$
– user626177
Dec 19 '18 at 17:36
add a comment |
$begingroup$
It is not correct since $varphi(p^2) = p(color{red}{p-1})$, but you can repair it easly.
All congruences are modulo $p^2$. So we have by Euler (since $pne 5$)
$$ 5^{p^2-p} equiv -1 implies 5^pequiv 5^{p^2}equiv -1$$
So $pmid 5^p+1$, but by Fermat little theorem we have $pmid 5^p-5$ so $$pmid (5^p+1)-(5^p-5) = 6 implies p=2;;{rm or};;p=3$$
Only $p=3$ works...
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It is not correct since $varphi(p^2) = p(color{red}{p-1})$, but you can repair it easly.
All congruences are modulo $p^2$. So we have by Euler (since $pne 5$)
$$ 5^{p^2-p} equiv -1 implies 5^pequiv 5^{p^2}equiv -1$$
So $pmid 5^p+1$, but by Fermat little theorem we have $pmid 5^p-5$ so $$pmid (5^p+1)-(5^p-5) = 6 implies p=2;;{rm or};;p=3$$
Only $p=3$ works...
edited Dec 19 '18 at 17:46
answered Dec 19 '18 at 17:34
greedoidgreedoid
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Holy **** that was stupid. I'll try fixing it now
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– user626177
Dec 19 '18 at 17:36
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Holy **** that was stupid. I'll try fixing it now
$endgroup$
– user626177
Dec 19 '18 at 17:36
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Holy **** that was stupid. I'll try fixing it now
$endgroup$
– user626177
Dec 19 '18 at 17:36
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Holy **** that was stupid. I'll try fixing it now
$endgroup$
– user626177
Dec 19 '18 at 17:36
add a comment |
$begingroup$
If $5^{p^2} + 1$ is divisible by $p^2$, it must also be divisible by $p$
Freshman's dream...
Over a finite fields:
$(a + b)^{p^n}equiv a^{p^n} + b^{p^n} pmod{p}$
$5^{p^2} + 1^{p^2} equiv (5+1)^{p^2}equiv 0 pmod p$
$p$ divides $6$
leaving us with only 2 candidates to check.
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
Never heard of it, will check it out. Seems like an overkill for problems I need to do. Thanks!
$endgroup$
– user626177
Dec 19 '18 at 19:13
1
$begingroup$
Usually, the Freshman's dream is written as $(a+b)^2 = a^2+ b^2$ which is of course the mistake that a high-school freshman would make in his algebra class. But, oddly enough is true over rings with the right characteristic.
$endgroup$
– Doug M
Dec 19 '18 at 20:55
add a comment |
$begingroup$
If $5^{p^2} + 1$ is divisible by $p^2$, it must also be divisible by $p$
Freshman's dream...
Over a finite fields:
$(a + b)^{p^n}equiv a^{p^n} + b^{p^n} pmod{p}$
$5^{p^2} + 1^{p^2} equiv (5+1)^{p^2}equiv 0 pmod p$
$p$ divides $6$
leaving us with only 2 candidates to check.
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
Never heard of it, will check it out. Seems like an overkill for problems I need to do. Thanks!
$endgroup$
– user626177
Dec 19 '18 at 19:13
1
$begingroup$
Usually, the Freshman's dream is written as $(a+b)^2 = a^2+ b^2$ which is of course the mistake that a high-school freshman would make in his algebra class. But, oddly enough is true over rings with the right characteristic.
$endgroup$
– Doug M
Dec 19 '18 at 20:55
add a comment |
$begingroup$
If $5^{p^2} + 1$ is divisible by $p^2$, it must also be divisible by $p$
Freshman's dream...
Over a finite fields:
$(a + b)^{p^n}equiv a^{p^n} + b^{p^n} pmod{p}$
$5^{p^2} + 1^{p^2} equiv (5+1)^{p^2}equiv 0 pmod p$
$p$ divides $6$
leaving us with only 2 candidates to check.
$endgroup$
If $5^{p^2} + 1$ is divisible by $p^2$, it must also be divisible by $p$
Freshman's dream...
Over a finite fields:
$(a + b)^{p^n}equiv a^{p^n} + b^{p^n} pmod{p}$
$5^{p^2} + 1^{p^2} equiv (5+1)^{p^2}equiv 0 pmod p$
$p$ divides $6$
leaving us with only 2 candidates to check.
answered Dec 19 '18 at 17:57
Doug MDoug M
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Never heard of it, will check it out. Seems like an overkill for problems I need to do. Thanks!
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– user626177
Dec 19 '18 at 19:13
1
$begingroup$
Usually, the Freshman's dream is written as $(a+b)^2 = a^2+ b^2$ which is of course the mistake that a high-school freshman would make in his algebra class. But, oddly enough is true over rings with the right characteristic.
$endgroup$
– Doug M
Dec 19 '18 at 20:55
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Never heard of it, will check it out. Seems like an overkill for problems I need to do. Thanks!
$endgroup$
– user626177
Dec 19 '18 at 19:13
1
$begingroup$
Usually, the Freshman's dream is written as $(a+b)^2 = a^2+ b^2$ which is of course the mistake that a high-school freshman would make in his algebra class. But, oddly enough is true over rings with the right characteristic.
$endgroup$
– Doug M
Dec 19 '18 at 20:55
$begingroup$
Never heard of it, will check it out. Seems like an overkill for problems I need to do. Thanks!
$endgroup$
– user626177
Dec 19 '18 at 19:13
$begingroup$
Never heard of it, will check it out. Seems like an overkill for problems I need to do. Thanks!
$endgroup$
– user626177
Dec 19 '18 at 19:13
1
1
$begingroup$
Usually, the Freshman's dream is written as $(a+b)^2 = a^2+ b^2$ which is of course the mistake that a high-school freshman would make in his algebra class. But, oddly enough is true over rings with the right characteristic.
$endgroup$
– Doug M
Dec 19 '18 at 20:55
$begingroup$
Usually, the Freshman's dream is written as $(a+b)^2 = a^2+ b^2$ which is of course the mistake that a high-school freshman would make in his algebra class. But, oddly enough is true over rings with the right characteristic.
$endgroup$
– Doug M
Dec 19 '18 at 20:55
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