Summation of series and Taylor series are giving different results












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$A = frac{1}{2} + frac{1}{4} + frac{1}{6} + cdots$
$B = 1 + frac{1}{3} + frac{1}{5} + frac{1}{7} + cdots$
$A + B = 1 + frac{1}{2} + frac{1}{3} + frac{1}{4} + frac{1}{5} + frac{1}{6} + cdots$
$2A = 1 + frac{1}{2} + frac{1}{3} + frac{1}{4} + frac{1}{5} + frac{1}{6} + cdots$
$2A = A + B$
$A - B = 0$
$0 = 1 - frac{1}{2} + frac{1}{3} - frac{1}{4} + frac{1}{5} - frac{1}{6} + cdots$



Using Taylor expansion for $ln(1+x)$
$ln(2) = 1 -frac{1}{2} + frac{1}{3} - frac{1}{4} + frac{1}{5} - frac{1}{6} + cdots$



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    You are manipulating divergent series, hence the confusion. Take a look on Riemann theorem.
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    Dec 19 '18 at 17:33






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    Look here for a detailed explanation on why this can't be done.
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    You're ignoring the fact that $A$ and $B$ are not finite numbers. Essentially, they are both $infty$ so $A-B$ is meaningless and cancellation cannot be performed as you have done.
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    – MPW
    Dec 19 '18 at 17:46






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    Look at the partial sums $A_N=sum_{n=1}^{N} frac{1}{2n}$ and $B_N=sum_{n=1}^N frac{1}{2n-1}$. While $A_N+B_N =sum_{n=1}^{2N} frac1n$, we have $A_N-B_N=sum_{n=N+1}^{2N}frac1n ne 0$. In fact, we have $lim_{Ntoinfty}(A_N-B_N)=log(2)$
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$begingroup$


$A = frac{1}{2} + frac{1}{4} + frac{1}{6} + cdots$
$B = 1 + frac{1}{3} + frac{1}{5} + frac{1}{7} + cdots$
$A + B = 1 + frac{1}{2} + frac{1}{3} + frac{1}{4} + frac{1}{5} + frac{1}{6} + cdots$
$2A = 1 + frac{1}{2} + frac{1}{3} + frac{1}{4} + frac{1}{5} + frac{1}{6} + cdots$
$2A = A + B$
$A - B = 0$
$0 = 1 - frac{1}{2} + frac{1}{3} - frac{1}{4} + frac{1}{5} - frac{1}{6} + cdots$



Using Taylor expansion for $ln(1+x)$
$ln(2) = 1 -frac{1}{2} + frac{1}{3} - frac{1}{4} + frac{1}{5} - frac{1}{6} + cdots$



Where did I go wrong ?






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    You are manipulating divergent series, hence the confusion. Take a look on Riemann theorem.
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    – rafa11111
    Dec 19 '18 at 17:33






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    $begingroup$
    Look here for a detailed explanation on why this can't be done.
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    – Viktor Glombik
    Dec 19 '18 at 17:36












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    @ViktorGlombik This Mathologer video is also suitable for this question!
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    – rafa11111
    Dec 19 '18 at 17:39










  • $begingroup$
    You're ignoring the fact that $A$ and $B$ are not finite numbers. Essentially, they are both $infty$ so $A-B$ is meaningless and cancellation cannot be performed as you have done.
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    – MPW
    Dec 19 '18 at 17:46






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    $begingroup$
    Look at the partial sums $A_N=sum_{n=1}^{N} frac{1}{2n}$ and $B_N=sum_{n=1}^N frac{1}{2n-1}$. While $A_N+B_N =sum_{n=1}^{2N} frac1n$, we have $A_N-B_N=sum_{n=N+1}^{2N}frac1n ne 0$. In fact, we have $lim_{Ntoinfty}(A_N-B_N)=log(2)$
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    – Mark Viola
    Dec 19 '18 at 18:20
















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$begingroup$


$A = frac{1}{2} + frac{1}{4} + frac{1}{6} + cdots$
$B = 1 + frac{1}{3} + frac{1}{5} + frac{1}{7} + cdots$
$A + B = 1 + frac{1}{2} + frac{1}{3} + frac{1}{4} + frac{1}{5} + frac{1}{6} + cdots$
$2A = 1 + frac{1}{2} + frac{1}{3} + frac{1}{4} + frac{1}{5} + frac{1}{6} + cdots$
$2A = A + B$
$A - B = 0$
$0 = 1 - frac{1}{2} + frac{1}{3} - frac{1}{4} + frac{1}{5} - frac{1}{6} + cdots$



Using Taylor expansion for $ln(1+x)$
$ln(2) = 1 -frac{1}{2} + frac{1}{3} - frac{1}{4} + frac{1}{5} - frac{1}{6} + cdots$



Where did I go wrong ?






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$A = frac{1}{2} + frac{1}{4} + frac{1}{6} + cdots$
$B = 1 + frac{1}{3} + frac{1}{5} + frac{1}{7} + cdots$
$A + B = 1 + frac{1}{2} + frac{1}{3} + frac{1}{4} + frac{1}{5} + frac{1}{6} + cdots$
$2A = 1 + frac{1}{2} + frac{1}{3} + frac{1}{4} + frac{1}{5} + frac{1}{6} + cdots$
$2A = A + B$
$A - B = 0$
$0 = 1 - frac{1}{2} + frac{1}{3} - frac{1}{4} + frac{1}{5} - frac{1}{6} + cdots$



Using Taylor expansion for $ln(1+x)$
$ln(2) = 1 -frac{1}{2} + frac{1}{3} - frac{1}{4} + frac{1}{5} - frac{1}{6} + cdots$



Where did I go wrong ?






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    $begingroup$
    You are manipulating divergent series, hence the confusion. Take a look on Riemann theorem.
    $endgroup$
    – rafa11111
    Dec 19 '18 at 17:33






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Look here for a detailed explanation on why this can't be done.
    $endgroup$
    – Viktor Glombik
    Dec 19 '18 at 17:36












  • $begingroup$
    @ViktorGlombik This Mathologer video is also suitable for this question!
    $endgroup$
    – rafa11111
    Dec 19 '18 at 17:39










  • $begingroup$
    You're ignoring the fact that $A$ and $B$ are not finite numbers. Essentially, they are both $infty$ so $A-B$ is meaningless and cancellation cannot be performed as you have done.
    $endgroup$
    – MPW
    Dec 19 '18 at 17:46






  • 2




    $begingroup$
    Look at the partial sums $A_N=sum_{n=1}^{N} frac{1}{2n}$ and $B_N=sum_{n=1}^N frac{1}{2n-1}$. While $A_N+B_N =sum_{n=1}^{2N} frac1n$, we have $A_N-B_N=sum_{n=N+1}^{2N}frac1n ne 0$. In fact, we have $lim_{Ntoinfty}(A_N-B_N)=log(2)$
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    – Mark Viola
    Dec 19 '18 at 18:20
















  • 2




    $begingroup$
    You are manipulating divergent series, hence the confusion. Take a look on Riemann theorem.
    $endgroup$
    – rafa11111
    Dec 19 '18 at 17:33






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Look here for a detailed explanation on why this can't be done.
    $endgroup$
    – Viktor Glombik
    Dec 19 '18 at 17:36












  • $begingroup$
    @ViktorGlombik This Mathologer video is also suitable for this question!
    $endgroup$
    – rafa11111
    Dec 19 '18 at 17:39










  • $begingroup$
    You're ignoring the fact that $A$ and $B$ are not finite numbers. Essentially, they are both $infty$ so $A-B$ is meaningless and cancellation cannot be performed as you have done.
    $endgroup$
    – MPW
    Dec 19 '18 at 17:46






  • 2




    $begingroup$
    Look at the partial sums $A_N=sum_{n=1}^{N} frac{1}{2n}$ and $B_N=sum_{n=1}^N frac{1}{2n-1}$. While $A_N+B_N =sum_{n=1}^{2N} frac1n$, we have $A_N-B_N=sum_{n=N+1}^{2N}frac1n ne 0$. In fact, we have $lim_{Ntoinfty}(A_N-B_N)=log(2)$
    $endgroup$
    – Mark Viola
    Dec 19 '18 at 18:20










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$begingroup$
You are manipulating divergent series, hence the confusion. Take a look on Riemann theorem.
$endgroup$
– rafa11111
Dec 19 '18 at 17:33




$begingroup$
You are manipulating divergent series, hence the confusion. Take a look on Riemann theorem.
$endgroup$
– rafa11111
Dec 19 '18 at 17:33




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$begingroup$
Look here for a detailed explanation on why this can't be done.
$endgroup$
– Viktor Glombik
Dec 19 '18 at 17:36






$begingroup$
Look here for a detailed explanation on why this can't be done.
$endgroup$
– Viktor Glombik
Dec 19 '18 at 17:36














$begingroup$
@ViktorGlombik This Mathologer video is also suitable for this question!
$endgroup$
– rafa11111
Dec 19 '18 at 17:39




$begingroup$
@ViktorGlombik This Mathologer video is also suitable for this question!
$endgroup$
– rafa11111
Dec 19 '18 at 17:39












$begingroup$
You're ignoring the fact that $A$ and $B$ are not finite numbers. Essentially, they are both $infty$ so $A-B$ is meaningless and cancellation cannot be performed as you have done.
$endgroup$
– MPW
Dec 19 '18 at 17:46




$begingroup$
You're ignoring the fact that $A$ and $B$ are not finite numbers. Essentially, they are both $infty$ so $A-B$ is meaningless and cancellation cannot be performed as you have done.
$endgroup$
– MPW
Dec 19 '18 at 17:46




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$begingroup$
Look at the partial sums $A_N=sum_{n=1}^{N} frac{1}{2n}$ and $B_N=sum_{n=1}^N frac{1}{2n-1}$. While $A_N+B_N =sum_{n=1}^{2N} frac1n$, we have $A_N-B_N=sum_{n=N+1}^{2N}frac1n ne 0$. In fact, we have $lim_{Ntoinfty}(A_N-B_N)=log(2)$
$endgroup$
– Mark Viola
Dec 19 '18 at 18:20






$begingroup$
Look at the partial sums $A_N=sum_{n=1}^{N} frac{1}{2n}$ and $B_N=sum_{n=1}^N frac{1}{2n-1}$. While $A_N+B_N =sum_{n=1}^{2N} frac1n$, we have $A_N-B_N=sum_{n=N+1}^{2N}frac1n ne 0$. In fact, we have $lim_{Ntoinfty}(A_N-B_N)=log(2)$
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What you did wrong was to assume that you can deal with divergent series as if they were convergent. If you say that



$$
A=frac12+frac14+frac16+cdots
$$



then $A$ is a name of the series, but it is not a number (since the series diverges).



Therefore
$$
1+frac12+frac13+frac14+cdots
$$
is just another (divergent) series and it is an unfortunate option to call it $2A$.






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    As others have already pointed out, the series $sum_{n=1}^infty frac1n$ and $sum_{n=1}^infty frac1{2n-1}$ diverge and manipulating divergent series is not legitimate.




    Another way to analyze this is to look at the partial sums $A_N=sum_{n=1}^{N} frac{1}{2n}$ and $B_N=sum_{n=1}^N frac{1}{2n-1}$.



    While $A_N+B_N =sum_{n=1}^{2N} frac1n$, we have $A_N-B_N=-sum_{n=N+1}^{2N}frac1n ne 0$ (In fact, we have $lim_{Ntoinfty}(A_N-B_N)=log(1/2)$).






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      What you did wrong was to assume that you can deal with divergent series as if they were convergent. If you say that



      $$
      A=frac12+frac14+frac16+cdots
      $$



      then $A$ is a name of the series, but it is not a number (since the series diverges).



      Therefore
      $$
      1+frac12+frac13+frac14+cdots
      $$
      is just another (divergent) series and it is an unfortunate option to call it $2A$.






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        What you did wrong was to assume that you can deal with divergent series as if they were convergent. If you say that



        $$
        A=frac12+frac14+frac16+cdots
        $$



        then $A$ is a name of the series, but it is not a number (since the series diverges).



        Therefore
        $$
        1+frac12+frac13+frac14+cdots
        $$
        is just another (divergent) series and it is an unfortunate option to call it $2A$.






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          $begingroup$

          What you did wrong was to assume that you can deal with divergent series as if they were convergent. If you say that



          $$
          A=frac12+frac14+frac16+cdots
          $$



          then $A$ is a name of the series, but it is not a number (since the series diverges).



          Therefore
          $$
          1+frac12+frac13+frac14+cdots
          $$
          is just another (divergent) series and it is an unfortunate option to call it $2A$.






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          What you did wrong was to assume that you can deal with divergent series as if they were convergent. If you say that



          $$
          A=frac12+frac14+frac16+cdots
          $$



          then $A$ is a name of the series, but it is not a number (since the series diverges).



          Therefore
          $$
          1+frac12+frac13+frac14+cdots
          $$
          is just another (divergent) series and it is an unfortunate option to call it $2A$.







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              As others have already pointed out, the series $sum_{n=1}^infty frac1n$ and $sum_{n=1}^infty frac1{2n-1}$ diverge and manipulating divergent series is not legitimate.




              Another way to analyze this is to look at the partial sums $A_N=sum_{n=1}^{N} frac{1}{2n}$ and $B_N=sum_{n=1}^N frac{1}{2n-1}$.



              While $A_N+B_N =sum_{n=1}^{2N} frac1n$, we have $A_N-B_N=-sum_{n=N+1}^{2N}frac1n ne 0$ (In fact, we have $lim_{Ntoinfty}(A_N-B_N)=log(1/2)$).






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                $begingroup$

                As others have already pointed out, the series $sum_{n=1}^infty frac1n$ and $sum_{n=1}^infty frac1{2n-1}$ diverge and manipulating divergent series is not legitimate.




                Another way to analyze this is to look at the partial sums $A_N=sum_{n=1}^{N} frac{1}{2n}$ and $B_N=sum_{n=1}^N frac{1}{2n-1}$.



                While $A_N+B_N =sum_{n=1}^{2N} frac1n$, we have $A_N-B_N=-sum_{n=N+1}^{2N}frac1n ne 0$ (In fact, we have $lim_{Ntoinfty}(A_N-B_N)=log(1/2)$).






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                  As others have already pointed out, the series $sum_{n=1}^infty frac1n$ and $sum_{n=1}^infty frac1{2n-1}$ diverge and manipulating divergent series is not legitimate.




                  Another way to analyze this is to look at the partial sums $A_N=sum_{n=1}^{N} frac{1}{2n}$ and $B_N=sum_{n=1}^N frac{1}{2n-1}$.



                  While $A_N+B_N =sum_{n=1}^{2N} frac1n$, we have $A_N-B_N=-sum_{n=N+1}^{2N}frac1n ne 0$ (In fact, we have $lim_{Ntoinfty}(A_N-B_N)=log(1/2)$).






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                  As others have already pointed out, the series $sum_{n=1}^infty frac1n$ and $sum_{n=1}^infty frac1{2n-1}$ diverge and manipulating divergent series is not legitimate.




                  Another way to analyze this is to look at the partial sums $A_N=sum_{n=1}^{N} frac{1}{2n}$ and $B_N=sum_{n=1}^N frac{1}{2n-1}$.



                  While $A_N+B_N =sum_{n=1}^{2N} frac1n$, we have $A_N-B_N=-sum_{n=N+1}^{2N}frac1n ne 0$ (In fact, we have $lim_{Ntoinfty}(A_N-B_N)=log(1/2)$).







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