For which $p in [1,infty]$ does $g, g_{A}$ and $g_{A^{c}} in mathcal{L}^p$ hold?
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Let $s in mathbb R, d in mathbb N$, $g:mathbb R^{d}to bar{mathbb R}, x mapsto |x|^s$
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Set $E_{d}:={xin mathbb R^{d}:|x|leq 1}$
Determine $p in [1,infty]$ for which $g, gchi_{E_{d}}$ and $gchi_{E_{d}^{c}} in mathcal{L}^{p}$
Idea: Assume $g geq 0$ without loss of generality otherwise: $g:=g_{+}-g_{-}$
for $p =1$
$int_{mathbb R^{d}}gdlambda^{d}(x)=int_{mathbb R^{d}}x^sdlambda^{d}(x)=int_{mathbb R}...(int_{mathbb R}x^sdlambda)...dlambda=int_{mathbb R}...frac{x^{s+1}}{s+1}vert_{-infty}^{infty}...dlambda$ so $notin mathcal{L}^{1} $
And if $gnotin mathcal{L}^{1}$ I want to say $g notin mathcal{L}^{p},forall pin]1,infty]$ but this does not seem possible given that fact that $lambda^{d}(mathbb R^{d})=infty$, so this shortcut is not possible.
Next $int_{E^{d}}gdlambda^{d}(x)=int_{mathbb R}...(int_{mathbb R}gchi_{[-1,1]}dlambda)...dlambda=int_{mathbb R}...(int_{mathbb R}x^{s}chi_{[-1,1]}dlambda)...dlambda=int_{mathbb R}...(int_{mathbb R}frac{x^{s+1}}{s+1}|^{1}_{-1}dlambda)...dlambda$
and $frac{x^{s+1}}{s+1}|^{1}_{-1}=frac{1}{s+1}-frac{(-1)^{s+1}}{s+1}$ and if $s $ us an odd number then we get $0$, and therefore $int_{E^{d}}gdlambda^{d}(x)=0$, I for all other cases of $s in mathbb R$, we get $gchi_{E_{d}}in mathcal{L}^1$ but I am unsure on how to reason it precisely.
On $int_{(E^{d})^{c}}gdlambda^{d}(x)$, I am lost and for all cases $p in ]1,infty]$ I am unsure on what to do for all three function, particulary given:
$(int_{mathbb R^{d}}x^{sp}dlambda^{d}(x))^{frac{1}{p}}$, where $p in ]1,infty]$
Any guidance on this problem is greatly appreciated.
real-analysis integration measure-theory lp-spaces
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Let $s in mathbb R, d in mathbb N$, $g:mathbb R^{d}to bar{mathbb R}, x mapsto |x|^s$
.
Set $E_{d}:={xin mathbb R^{d}:|x|leq 1}$
Determine $p in [1,infty]$ for which $g, gchi_{E_{d}}$ and $gchi_{E_{d}^{c}} in mathcal{L}^{p}$
Idea: Assume $g geq 0$ without loss of generality otherwise: $g:=g_{+}-g_{-}$
for $p =1$
$int_{mathbb R^{d}}gdlambda^{d}(x)=int_{mathbb R^{d}}x^sdlambda^{d}(x)=int_{mathbb R}...(int_{mathbb R}x^sdlambda)...dlambda=int_{mathbb R}...frac{x^{s+1}}{s+1}vert_{-infty}^{infty}...dlambda$ so $notin mathcal{L}^{1} $
And if $gnotin mathcal{L}^{1}$ I want to say $g notin mathcal{L}^{p},forall pin]1,infty]$ but this does not seem possible given that fact that $lambda^{d}(mathbb R^{d})=infty$, so this shortcut is not possible.
Next $int_{E^{d}}gdlambda^{d}(x)=int_{mathbb R}...(int_{mathbb R}gchi_{[-1,1]}dlambda)...dlambda=int_{mathbb R}...(int_{mathbb R}x^{s}chi_{[-1,1]}dlambda)...dlambda=int_{mathbb R}...(int_{mathbb R}frac{x^{s+1}}{s+1}|^{1}_{-1}dlambda)...dlambda$
and $frac{x^{s+1}}{s+1}|^{1}_{-1}=frac{1}{s+1}-frac{(-1)^{s+1}}{s+1}$ and if $s $ us an odd number then we get $0$, and therefore $int_{E^{d}}gdlambda^{d}(x)=0$, I for all other cases of $s in mathbb R$, we get $gchi_{E_{d}}in mathcal{L}^1$ but I am unsure on how to reason it precisely.
On $int_{(E^{d})^{c}}gdlambda^{d}(x)$, I am lost and for all cases $p in ]1,infty]$ I am unsure on what to do for all three function, particulary given:
$(int_{mathbb R^{d}}x^{sp}dlambda^{d}(x))^{frac{1}{p}}$, where $p in ]1,infty]$
Any guidance on this problem is greatly appreciated.
real-analysis integration measure-theory lp-spaces
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Let $s in mathbb R, d in mathbb N$, $g:mathbb R^{d}to bar{mathbb R}, x mapsto |x|^s$
.
Set $E_{d}:={xin mathbb R^{d}:|x|leq 1}$
Determine $p in [1,infty]$ for which $g, gchi_{E_{d}}$ and $gchi_{E_{d}^{c}} in mathcal{L}^{p}$
Idea: Assume $g geq 0$ without loss of generality otherwise: $g:=g_{+}-g_{-}$
for $p =1$
$int_{mathbb R^{d}}gdlambda^{d}(x)=int_{mathbb R^{d}}x^sdlambda^{d}(x)=int_{mathbb R}...(int_{mathbb R}x^sdlambda)...dlambda=int_{mathbb R}...frac{x^{s+1}}{s+1}vert_{-infty}^{infty}...dlambda$ so $notin mathcal{L}^{1} $
And if $gnotin mathcal{L}^{1}$ I want to say $g notin mathcal{L}^{p},forall pin]1,infty]$ but this does not seem possible given that fact that $lambda^{d}(mathbb R^{d})=infty$, so this shortcut is not possible.
Next $int_{E^{d}}gdlambda^{d}(x)=int_{mathbb R}...(int_{mathbb R}gchi_{[-1,1]}dlambda)...dlambda=int_{mathbb R}...(int_{mathbb R}x^{s}chi_{[-1,1]}dlambda)...dlambda=int_{mathbb R}...(int_{mathbb R}frac{x^{s+1}}{s+1}|^{1}_{-1}dlambda)...dlambda$
and $frac{x^{s+1}}{s+1}|^{1}_{-1}=frac{1}{s+1}-frac{(-1)^{s+1}}{s+1}$ and if $s $ us an odd number then we get $0$, and therefore $int_{E^{d}}gdlambda^{d}(x)=0$, I for all other cases of $s in mathbb R$, we get $gchi_{E_{d}}in mathcal{L}^1$ but I am unsure on how to reason it precisely.
On $int_{(E^{d})^{c}}gdlambda^{d}(x)$, I am lost and for all cases $p in ]1,infty]$ I am unsure on what to do for all three function, particulary given:
$(int_{mathbb R^{d}}x^{sp}dlambda^{d}(x))^{frac{1}{p}}$, where $p in ]1,infty]$
Any guidance on this problem is greatly appreciated.
real-analysis integration measure-theory lp-spaces
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Let $s in mathbb R, d in mathbb N$, $g:mathbb R^{d}to bar{mathbb R}, x mapsto |x|^s$
.
Set $E_{d}:={xin mathbb R^{d}:|x|leq 1}$
Determine $p in [1,infty]$ for which $g, gchi_{E_{d}}$ and $gchi_{E_{d}^{c}} in mathcal{L}^{p}$
Idea: Assume $g geq 0$ without loss of generality otherwise: $g:=g_{+}-g_{-}$
for $p =1$
$int_{mathbb R^{d}}gdlambda^{d}(x)=int_{mathbb R^{d}}x^sdlambda^{d}(x)=int_{mathbb R}...(int_{mathbb R}x^sdlambda)...dlambda=int_{mathbb R}...frac{x^{s+1}}{s+1}vert_{-infty}^{infty}...dlambda$ so $notin mathcal{L}^{1} $
And if $gnotin mathcal{L}^{1}$ I want to say $g notin mathcal{L}^{p},forall pin]1,infty]$ but this does not seem possible given that fact that $lambda^{d}(mathbb R^{d})=infty$, so this shortcut is not possible.
Next $int_{E^{d}}gdlambda^{d}(x)=int_{mathbb R}...(int_{mathbb R}gchi_{[-1,1]}dlambda)...dlambda=int_{mathbb R}...(int_{mathbb R}x^{s}chi_{[-1,1]}dlambda)...dlambda=int_{mathbb R}...(int_{mathbb R}frac{x^{s+1}}{s+1}|^{1}_{-1}dlambda)...dlambda$
and $frac{x^{s+1}}{s+1}|^{1}_{-1}=frac{1}{s+1}-frac{(-1)^{s+1}}{s+1}$ and if $s $ us an odd number then we get $0$, and therefore $int_{E^{d}}gdlambda^{d}(x)=0$, I for all other cases of $s in mathbb R$, we get $gchi_{E_{d}}in mathcal{L}^1$ but I am unsure on how to reason it precisely.
On $int_{(E^{d})^{c}}gdlambda^{d}(x)$, I am lost and for all cases $p in ]1,infty]$ I am unsure on what to do for all three function, particulary given:
$(int_{mathbb R^{d}}x^{sp}dlambda^{d}(x))^{frac{1}{p}}$, where $p in ]1,infty]$
Any guidance on this problem is greatly appreciated.
real-analysis integration measure-theory lp-spaces
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A problem in your approach is that you wrote $x^s$ for an element of $mathbb R^d$, while we want to work to the norm of $x$ to the power $s$.
Here are some steps to solve the problem:
- First treat completely the one dimensional case, which consists in studying the convergence of $int_0^1 x^{ps}mathrm dx$ and $int_1^{+infty} x^{ps}mathrm dx$.
- The function $xmapsto leftlvert xrightrvert^{ps}$ is radial, in sense that it depends only on the norm of $x$ hence (by a change in polar coordinates for example) $$int_{E_d}leftlvert xrightrvert^{ps}=c_d int_{0}^1t^{ps}t^{n-1}mathrm dt;$$
$$int_{E_d^c}leftlvert xrightrvert^{ps}=c_d int_{1}^{+infty}t^{ps}t^{n-1}mathrm dt.$$
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A problem in your approach is that you wrote $x^s$ for an element of $mathbb R^d$, while we want to work to the norm of $x$ to the power $s$.
Here are some steps to solve the problem:
- First treat completely the one dimensional case, which consists in studying the convergence of $int_0^1 x^{ps}mathrm dx$ and $int_1^{+infty} x^{ps}mathrm dx$.
- The function $xmapsto leftlvert xrightrvert^{ps}$ is radial, in sense that it depends only on the norm of $x$ hence (by a change in polar coordinates for example) $$int_{E_d}leftlvert xrightrvert^{ps}=c_d int_{0}^1t^{ps}t^{n-1}mathrm dt;$$
$$int_{E_d^c}leftlvert xrightrvert^{ps}=c_d int_{1}^{+infty}t^{ps}t^{n-1}mathrm dt.$$
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A problem in your approach is that you wrote $x^s$ for an element of $mathbb R^d$, while we want to work to the norm of $x$ to the power $s$.
Here are some steps to solve the problem:
- First treat completely the one dimensional case, which consists in studying the convergence of $int_0^1 x^{ps}mathrm dx$ and $int_1^{+infty} x^{ps}mathrm dx$.
- The function $xmapsto leftlvert xrightrvert^{ps}$ is radial, in sense that it depends only on the norm of $x$ hence (by a change in polar coordinates for example) $$int_{E_d}leftlvert xrightrvert^{ps}=c_d int_{0}^1t^{ps}t^{n-1}mathrm dt;$$
$$int_{E_d^c}leftlvert xrightrvert^{ps}=c_d int_{1}^{+infty}t^{ps}t^{n-1}mathrm dt.$$
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A problem in your approach is that you wrote $x^s$ for an element of $mathbb R^d$, while we want to work to the norm of $x$ to the power $s$.
Here are some steps to solve the problem:
- First treat completely the one dimensional case, which consists in studying the convergence of $int_0^1 x^{ps}mathrm dx$ and $int_1^{+infty} x^{ps}mathrm dx$.
- The function $xmapsto leftlvert xrightrvert^{ps}$ is radial, in sense that it depends only on the norm of $x$ hence (by a change in polar coordinates for example) $$int_{E_d}leftlvert xrightrvert^{ps}=c_d int_{0}^1t^{ps}t^{n-1}mathrm dt;$$
$$int_{E_d^c}leftlvert xrightrvert^{ps}=c_d int_{1}^{+infty}t^{ps}t^{n-1}mathrm dt.$$
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A problem in your approach is that you wrote $x^s$ for an element of $mathbb R^d$, while we want to work to the norm of $x$ to the power $s$.
Here are some steps to solve the problem:
- First treat completely the one dimensional case, which consists in studying the convergence of $int_0^1 x^{ps}mathrm dx$ and $int_1^{+infty} x^{ps}mathrm dx$.
- The function $xmapsto leftlvert xrightrvert^{ps}$ is radial, in sense that it depends only on the norm of $x$ hence (by a change in polar coordinates for example) $$int_{E_d}leftlvert xrightrvert^{ps}=c_d int_{0}^1t^{ps}t^{n-1}mathrm dt;$$
$$int_{E_d^c}leftlvert xrightrvert^{ps}=c_d int_{1}^{+infty}t^{ps}t^{n-1}mathrm dt.$$
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