Prove that if $pin{mathbb{R}},;;p>1$ then $(1+x)^p > 1+x^p$ with $x>0$












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I have to prove that if $pin{mathbb{R}},;;p>1$, then $(1+x)^p > 1+x^p$ with $x>0$.



I have got it using derivatives but I am looking for a smarter proof.



Can anyone help me?



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    Could you share your proof using derivatives? It is hard to know what you mean by "smarter" without seeing it
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    I mean that I looking for a prove without using derivatives.
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    See the proof using geometric series for the generalized form of Bernulli's inequality.
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I have to prove that if $pin{mathbb{R}},;;p>1$, then $(1+x)^p > 1+x^p$ with $x>0$.



I have got it using derivatives but I am looking for a smarter proof.



Can anyone help me?



Thanks.










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    Could you share your proof using derivatives? It is hard to know what you mean by "smarter" without seeing it
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    – pwerth
    Dec 24 '18 at 17:24






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    I mean that I looking for a prove without using derivatives.
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    – mathlife
    Dec 24 '18 at 17:27






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    See the proof using geometric series for the generalized form of Bernulli's inequality.
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    – zipirovich
    Dec 24 '18 at 18:01














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I have to prove that if $pin{mathbb{R}},;;p>1$, then $(1+x)^p > 1+x^p$ with $x>0$.



I have got it using derivatives but I am looking for a smarter proof.



Can anyone help me?



Thanks.










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I have got it using derivatives but I am looking for a smarter proof.



Can anyone help me?



Thanks.







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    Could you share your proof using derivatives? It is hard to know what you mean by "smarter" without seeing it
    $endgroup$
    – pwerth
    Dec 24 '18 at 17:24






  • 1




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    I mean that I looking for a prove without using derivatives.
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    – mathlife
    Dec 24 '18 at 17:27






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    See the proof using geometric series for the generalized form of Bernulli's inequality.
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    – zipirovich
    Dec 24 '18 at 18:01














  • 4




    $begingroup$
    Could you share your proof using derivatives? It is hard to know what you mean by "smarter" without seeing it
    $endgroup$
    – pwerth
    Dec 24 '18 at 17:24






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    I mean that I looking for a prove without using derivatives.
    $endgroup$
    – mathlife
    Dec 24 '18 at 17:27






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    See the proof using geometric series for the generalized form of Bernulli's inequality.
    $endgroup$
    – zipirovich
    Dec 24 '18 at 18:01








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Could you share your proof using derivatives? It is hard to know what you mean by "smarter" without seeing it
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– pwerth
Dec 24 '18 at 17:24




$begingroup$
Could you share your proof using derivatives? It is hard to know what you mean by "smarter" without seeing it
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– pwerth
Dec 24 '18 at 17:24




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I mean that I looking for a prove without using derivatives.
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– mathlife
Dec 24 '18 at 17:27




$begingroup$
I mean that I looking for a prove without using derivatives.
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– mathlife
Dec 24 '18 at 17:27




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$begingroup$
See the proof using geometric series for the generalized form of Bernulli's inequality.
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– zipirovich
Dec 24 '18 at 18:01




$begingroup$
See the proof using geometric series for the generalized form of Bernulli's inequality.
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Without loss of generality, we can take $0<xleq1$. Then
$$
(1+x)^pgeq1+pxgeq1+px^p>1+x^p ,
$$

where we used a generalized Bernoulli's inequality in the first step,
the simple comparison $x^pleq x$ in the second step,
and $p>1$ in the last step.



Update: The linked Wiki page does not seem to have an explicit proof of the generalized Bernoulli inequality for real $p>1$, so let me include a proof here that uses properties of logarithm. We have
$$
frac1plog(1+x)
=frac{p-1}plog1+frac1plog(1+x)
leqlogbig(frac{p-1}p+frac{1+x}pbig)
=logbig(1+frac{x}pbig) ,
$$

where we have used the concavity of log in the second step. Now the monotonicity of log gives
$$
(1+x)^{frac1p}leq1+frac{x}p ,
$$

and the substitution $y=frac{x}p$ finishes the job.



General comment: Since this question involves real exponent $p$, and $x^p$ can be defined only for rational $p$ by using a finite process, the proof must involve an infinite process in some way. Thus I would argue that in this situation, using a derivative is not more "shameful" than any other proof. In the particular proof above, the infinite process is hidden under the generalized Bernoulli inequality.






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    Hint:



    Use Bernoulli's inequality:




    • If $0<xle1$, then $;(1+x)^p>1+px >1+(x^{p-1}),x$ since $p>1ge x^{p-1}$.

    • If $x>1$, set $;x=smash{dfrac1u}$ ($0<u<1$). It amounts to checking $;(1+u)^{p}>1+u^p$, which is the previous case.






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      That only works for integer $p$, while the OP says that $pinmathbb{R}$.
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    $begingroup$

    Without loss of generality, we can take $0<xleq1$. Then
    $$
    (1+x)^pgeq1+pxgeq1+px^p>1+x^p ,
    $$

    where we used a generalized Bernoulli's inequality in the first step,
    the simple comparison $x^pleq x$ in the second step,
    and $p>1$ in the last step.



    Update: The linked Wiki page does not seem to have an explicit proof of the generalized Bernoulli inequality for real $p>1$, so let me include a proof here that uses properties of logarithm. We have
    $$
    frac1plog(1+x)
    =frac{p-1}plog1+frac1plog(1+x)
    leqlogbig(frac{p-1}p+frac{1+x}pbig)
    =logbig(1+frac{x}pbig) ,
    $$

    where we have used the concavity of log in the second step. Now the monotonicity of log gives
    $$
    (1+x)^{frac1p}leq1+frac{x}p ,
    $$

    and the substitution $y=frac{x}p$ finishes the job.



    General comment: Since this question involves real exponent $p$, and $x^p$ can be defined only for rational $p$ by using a finite process, the proof must involve an infinite process in some way. Thus I would argue that in this situation, using a derivative is not more "shameful" than any other proof. In the particular proof above, the infinite process is hidden under the generalized Bernoulli inequality.






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      $begingroup$

      Without loss of generality, we can take $0<xleq1$. Then
      $$
      (1+x)^pgeq1+pxgeq1+px^p>1+x^p ,
      $$

      where we used a generalized Bernoulli's inequality in the first step,
      the simple comparison $x^pleq x$ in the second step,
      and $p>1$ in the last step.



      Update: The linked Wiki page does not seem to have an explicit proof of the generalized Bernoulli inequality for real $p>1$, so let me include a proof here that uses properties of logarithm. We have
      $$
      frac1plog(1+x)
      =frac{p-1}plog1+frac1plog(1+x)
      leqlogbig(frac{p-1}p+frac{1+x}pbig)
      =logbig(1+frac{x}pbig) ,
      $$

      where we have used the concavity of log in the second step. Now the monotonicity of log gives
      $$
      (1+x)^{frac1p}leq1+frac{x}p ,
      $$

      and the substitution $y=frac{x}p$ finishes the job.



      General comment: Since this question involves real exponent $p$, and $x^p$ can be defined only for rational $p$ by using a finite process, the proof must involve an infinite process in some way. Thus I would argue that in this situation, using a derivative is not more "shameful" than any other proof. In the particular proof above, the infinite process is hidden under the generalized Bernoulli inequality.






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        Without loss of generality, we can take $0<xleq1$. Then
        $$
        (1+x)^pgeq1+pxgeq1+px^p>1+x^p ,
        $$

        where we used a generalized Bernoulli's inequality in the first step,
        the simple comparison $x^pleq x$ in the second step,
        and $p>1$ in the last step.



        Update: The linked Wiki page does not seem to have an explicit proof of the generalized Bernoulli inequality for real $p>1$, so let me include a proof here that uses properties of logarithm. We have
        $$
        frac1plog(1+x)
        =frac{p-1}plog1+frac1plog(1+x)
        leqlogbig(frac{p-1}p+frac{1+x}pbig)
        =logbig(1+frac{x}pbig) ,
        $$

        where we have used the concavity of log in the second step. Now the monotonicity of log gives
        $$
        (1+x)^{frac1p}leq1+frac{x}p ,
        $$

        and the substitution $y=frac{x}p$ finishes the job.



        General comment: Since this question involves real exponent $p$, and $x^p$ can be defined only for rational $p$ by using a finite process, the proof must involve an infinite process in some way. Thus I would argue that in this situation, using a derivative is not more "shameful" than any other proof. In the particular proof above, the infinite process is hidden under the generalized Bernoulli inequality.






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        Without loss of generality, we can take $0<xleq1$. Then
        $$
        (1+x)^pgeq1+pxgeq1+px^p>1+x^p ,
        $$

        where we used a generalized Bernoulli's inequality in the first step,
        the simple comparison $x^pleq x$ in the second step,
        and $p>1$ in the last step.



        Update: The linked Wiki page does not seem to have an explicit proof of the generalized Bernoulli inequality for real $p>1$, so let me include a proof here that uses properties of logarithm. We have
        $$
        frac1plog(1+x)
        =frac{p-1}plog1+frac1plog(1+x)
        leqlogbig(frac{p-1}p+frac{1+x}pbig)
        =logbig(1+frac{x}pbig) ,
        $$

        where we have used the concavity of log in the second step. Now the monotonicity of log gives
        $$
        (1+x)^{frac1p}leq1+frac{x}p ,
        $$

        and the substitution $y=frac{x}p$ finishes the job.



        General comment: Since this question involves real exponent $p$, and $x^p$ can be defined only for rational $p$ by using a finite process, the proof must involve an infinite process in some way. Thus I would argue that in this situation, using a derivative is not more "shameful" than any other proof. In the particular proof above, the infinite process is hidden under the generalized Bernoulli inequality.







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            Hint:



            Use Bernoulli's inequality:




            • If $0<xle1$, then $;(1+x)^p>1+px >1+(x^{p-1}),x$ since $p>1ge x^{p-1}$.

            • If $x>1$, set $;x=smash{dfrac1u}$ ($0<u<1$). It amounts to checking $;(1+u)^{p}>1+u^p$, which is the previous case.






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              That only works for integer $p$, while the OP says that $pinmathbb{R}$.
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              Oops! I missed that detail!
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              upvoted to balance the existing downvote
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              Dec 24 '18 at 18:02






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              Thanks, @Timur! Anyway, I modified the answer. Happy Xmas for the maniac downvoter!
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            Hint:



            Use Bernoulli's inequality:




            • If $0<xle1$, then $;(1+x)^p>1+px >1+(x^{p-1}),x$ since $p>1ge x^{p-1}$.

            • If $x>1$, set $;x=smash{dfrac1u}$ ($0<u<1$). It amounts to checking $;(1+u)^{p}>1+u^p$, which is the previous case.






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            • $begingroup$
              That only works for integer $p$, while the OP says that $pinmathbb{R}$.
              $endgroup$
              – zipirovich
              Dec 24 '18 at 17:54










            • $begingroup$
              Oops! I missed that detail!
              $endgroup$
              – Bernard
              Dec 24 '18 at 18:01










            • $begingroup$
              upvoted to balance the existing downvote
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              – timur
              Dec 24 '18 at 18:02






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              Thanks, @Timur! Anyway, I modified the answer. Happy Xmas for the maniac downvoter!
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            Hint:



            Use Bernoulli's inequality:




            • If $0<xle1$, then $;(1+x)^p>1+px >1+(x^{p-1}),x$ since $p>1ge x^{p-1}$.

            • If $x>1$, set $;x=smash{dfrac1u}$ ($0<u<1$). It amounts to checking $;(1+u)^{p}>1+u^p$, which is the previous case.






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            Hint:



            Use Bernoulli's inequality:




            • If $0<xle1$, then $;(1+x)^p>1+px >1+(x^{p-1}),x$ since $p>1ge x^{p-1}$.

            • If $x>1$, set $;x=smash{dfrac1u}$ ($0<u<1$). It amounts to checking $;(1+u)^{p}>1+u^p$, which is the previous case.







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              That only works for integer $p$, while the OP says that $pinmathbb{R}$.
              $endgroup$
              – zipirovich
              Dec 24 '18 at 17:54










            • $begingroup$
              Oops! I missed that detail!
              $endgroup$
              – Bernard
              Dec 24 '18 at 18:01










            • $begingroup$
              upvoted to balance the existing downvote
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              – timur
              Dec 24 '18 at 18:02






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              Thanks, @Timur! Anyway, I modified the answer. Happy Xmas for the maniac downvoter!
              $endgroup$
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              Dec 24 '18 at 18:11




















            • $begingroup$
              That only works for integer $p$, while the OP says that $pinmathbb{R}$.
              $endgroup$
              – zipirovich
              Dec 24 '18 at 17:54










            • $begingroup$
              Oops! I missed that detail!
              $endgroup$
              – Bernard
              Dec 24 '18 at 18:01










            • $begingroup$
              upvoted to balance the existing downvote
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              – timur
              Dec 24 '18 at 18:02






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              Thanks, @Timur! Anyway, I modified the answer. Happy Xmas for the maniac downvoter!
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              Dec 24 '18 at 18:11


















            $begingroup$
            That only works for integer $p$, while the OP says that $pinmathbb{R}$.
            $endgroup$
            – zipirovich
            Dec 24 '18 at 17:54




            $begingroup$
            That only works for integer $p$, while the OP says that $pinmathbb{R}$.
            $endgroup$
            – zipirovich
            Dec 24 '18 at 17:54












            $begingroup$
            Oops! I missed that detail!
            $endgroup$
            – Bernard
            Dec 24 '18 at 18:01




            $begingroup$
            Oops! I missed that detail!
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            – Bernard
            Dec 24 '18 at 18:01












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