Characterizing points by their distance to the unit ball












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Let $x,yinmathbb{R}^n$. Assume that, for all $z$ in the unit ball, $|x-z|=|y-z|=d_z$. From this we can deduce that $|x| = |y|$ since $0$ is in the unit ball. How can we show that $x=y$? I think it must be true but I cannot show it easily.










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    Let $x,yinmathbb{R}^n$. Assume that, for all $z$ in the unit ball, $|x-z|=|y-z|=d_z$. From this we can deduce that $|x| = |y|$ since $0$ is in the unit ball. How can we show that $x=y$? I think it must be true but I cannot show it easily.










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      Let $x,yinmathbb{R}^n$. Assume that, for all $z$ in the unit ball, $|x-z|=|y-z|=d_z$. From this we can deduce that $|x| = |y|$ since $0$ is in the unit ball. How can we show that $x=y$? I think it must be true but I cannot show it easily.










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      Let $x,yinmathbb{R}^n$. Assume that, for all $z$ in the unit ball, $|x-z|=|y-z|=d_z$. From this we can deduce that $|x| = |y|$ since $0$ is in the unit ball. How can we show that $x=y$? I think it must be true but I cannot show it easily.







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          You can use the fact that $bar x=x/|x|$ is the unique best approximation of $xin mathbb{R}^nsetminus B$ in $B$.



          Since
          $$
          |y-bar x|=|x-bar x|<|x-z|=|y-z|
          $$

          for $zin Bsetminus{bar x}$ by assumption, $bar x$ is also a best approximation of $y$ in $B$. By uniqueness it follows that $bar x=bar y$. As you already know that $|x|=|y|$, you are are done.



          The case $xin B$ is trivial since you only need to use $0=|x-x|=|y-x|$. Finally, if you work with the open instead of the closed unit ball, you can simply replace $B$ by a closed ball of smaller radius in the argument above.






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            Thanks, this is what I was looking for. I had even started investigating $frac{x}{|x|}$ but didn't think about it being the projector onto the unit ball.
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          You can use the fact that $bar x=x/|x|$ is the unique best approximation of $xin mathbb{R}^nsetminus B$ in $B$.



          Since
          $$
          |y-bar x|=|x-bar x|<|x-z|=|y-z|
          $$

          for $zin Bsetminus{bar x}$ by assumption, $bar x$ is also a best approximation of $y$ in $B$. By uniqueness it follows that $bar x=bar y$. As you already know that $|x|=|y|$, you are are done.



          The case $xin B$ is trivial since you only need to use $0=|x-x|=|y-x|$. Finally, if you work with the open instead of the closed unit ball, you can simply replace $B$ by a closed ball of smaller radius in the argument above.






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            Thanks, this is what I was looking for. I had even started investigating $frac{x}{|x|}$ but didn't think about it being the projector onto the unit ball.
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          You can use the fact that $bar x=x/|x|$ is the unique best approximation of $xin mathbb{R}^nsetminus B$ in $B$.



          Since
          $$
          |y-bar x|=|x-bar x|<|x-z|=|y-z|
          $$

          for $zin Bsetminus{bar x}$ by assumption, $bar x$ is also a best approximation of $y$ in $B$. By uniqueness it follows that $bar x=bar y$. As you already know that $|x|=|y|$, you are are done.



          The case $xin B$ is trivial since you only need to use $0=|x-x|=|y-x|$. Finally, if you work with the open instead of the closed unit ball, you can simply replace $B$ by a closed ball of smaller radius in the argument above.






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            Thanks, this is what I was looking for. I had even started investigating $frac{x}{|x|}$ but didn't think about it being the projector onto the unit ball.
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            – Tony S.F.
            Jan 16 at 9:23














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          You can use the fact that $bar x=x/|x|$ is the unique best approximation of $xin mathbb{R}^nsetminus B$ in $B$.



          Since
          $$
          |y-bar x|=|x-bar x|<|x-z|=|y-z|
          $$

          for $zin Bsetminus{bar x}$ by assumption, $bar x$ is also a best approximation of $y$ in $B$. By uniqueness it follows that $bar x=bar y$. As you already know that $|x|=|y|$, you are are done.



          The case $xin B$ is trivial since you only need to use $0=|x-x|=|y-x|$. Finally, if you work with the open instead of the closed unit ball, you can simply replace $B$ by a closed ball of smaller radius in the argument above.






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          You can use the fact that $bar x=x/|x|$ is the unique best approximation of $xin mathbb{R}^nsetminus B$ in $B$.



          Since
          $$
          |y-bar x|=|x-bar x|<|x-z|=|y-z|
          $$

          for $zin Bsetminus{bar x}$ by assumption, $bar x$ is also a best approximation of $y$ in $B$. By uniqueness it follows that $bar x=bar y$. As you already know that $|x|=|y|$, you are are done.



          The case $xin B$ is trivial since you only need to use $0=|x-x|=|y-x|$. Finally, if you work with the open instead of the closed unit ball, you can simply replace $B$ by a closed ball of smaller radius in the argument above.







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          • $begingroup$
            Thanks, this is what I was looking for. I had even started investigating $frac{x}{|x|}$ but didn't think about it being the projector onto the unit ball.
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            – Tony S.F.
            Jan 16 at 9:23


















          • $begingroup$
            Thanks, this is what I was looking for. I had even started investigating $frac{x}{|x|}$ but didn't think about it being the projector onto the unit ball.
            $endgroup$
            – Tony S.F.
            Jan 16 at 9:23
















          $begingroup$
          Thanks, this is what I was looking for. I had even started investigating $frac{x}{|x|}$ but didn't think about it being the projector onto the unit ball.
          $endgroup$
          – Tony S.F.
          Jan 16 at 9:23




          $begingroup$
          Thanks, this is what I was looking for. I had even started investigating $frac{x}{|x|}$ but didn't think about it being the projector onto the unit ball.
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          – Tony S.F.
          Jan 16 at 9:23


















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