Finding $int^{frac{pi}{2}}_{0}ln(sin x)cdot sin xdx$












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Finding $displaystyle int^{frac{pi}{2}}_{0}ln(sin x)cdot sin xdx$




What I try:-> Integration by parts



assuming $displaystyle I = intln(sin x)cdot sin xdx = -ln(sin x)cdot cos x+intfrac{cos^2 x}{sin x}dx$



$displaystyle I = -ln(sin x)cdot cos x+intfrac{1-sin^2 x}{sin x}dx$



$ = -ln(sin x)cos x+lnbigg(tanfrac{x}{2}bigg)-cos x$



$ displaystyle int^{frac{pi}{2}}_{0}ln(sin x)cos xdx = bigg[-ln(sin x)cos x+lnbigg(tanfrac{x}{2}bigg)-cos xbigg]bigg|^{frac{pi}{2}}_{0}=-ln(0)+ln(0)$



but answer is $ln(2/e)$



could some explain me why I have got wrong answer,thanks



also explain me How I solve it using double integral










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    $log(0)$ is not a number.
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    Thanks Jack D'Aurizio, we have to write it as $lim_{xrightarrow 0}ln(sin x)cdot cos x$
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    Oct 15 '18 at 15:01






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    It still does not exist. $lim(a-b) = lim a-lim b$ only if both $lim a$ and $lim b$ make sense.
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Finding $displaystyle int^{frac{pi}{2}}_{0}ln(sin x)cdot sin xdx$




What I try:-> Integration by parts



assuming $displaystyle I = intln(sin x)cdot sin xdx = -ln(sin x)cdot cos x+intfrac{cos^2 x}{sin x}dx$



$displaystyle I = -ln(sin x)cdot cos x+intfrac{1-sin^2 x}{sin x}dx$



$ = -ln(sin x)cos x+lnbigg(tanfrac{x}{2}bigg)-cos x$



$ displaystyle int^{frac{pi}{2}}_{0}ln(sin x)cos xdx = bigg[-ln(sin x)cos x+lnbigg(tanfrac{x}{2}bigg)-cos xbigg]bigg|^{frac{pi}{2}}_{0}=-ln(0)+ln(0)$



but answer is $ln(2/e)$



could some explain me why I have got wrong answer,thanks



also explain me How I solve it using double integral










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    $log(0)$ is not a number.
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    – Jack D'Aurizio
    Oct 15 '18 at 15:00










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    Thanks Jack D'Aurizio, we have to write it as $lim_{xrightarrow 0}ln(sin x)cdot cos x$
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    – DXT
    Oct 15 '18 at 15:01






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    It still does not exist. $lim(a-b) = lim a-lim b$ only if both $lim a$ and $lim b$ make sense.
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    – Jack D'Aurizio
    Oct 15 '18 at 15:03














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Finding $displaystyle int^{frac{pi}{2}}_{0}ln(sin x)cdot sin xdx$




What I try:-> Integration by parts



assuming $displaystyle I = intln(sin x)cdot sin xdx = -ln(sin x)cdot cos x+intfrac{cos^2 x}{sin x}dx$



$displaystyle I = -ln(sin x)cdot cos x+intfrac{1-sin^2 x}{sin x}dx$



$ = -ln(sin x)cos x+lnbigg(tanfrac{x}{2}bigg)-cos x$



$ displaystyle int^{frac{pi}{2}}_{0}ln(sin x)cos xdx = bigg[-ln(sin x)cos x+lnbigg(tanfrac{x}{2}bigg)-cos xbigg]bigg|^{frac{pi}{2}}_{0}=-ln(0)+ln(0)$



but answer is $ln(2/e)$



could some explain me why I have got wrong answer,thanks



also explain me How I solve it using double integral










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Finding $displaystyle int^{frac{pi}{2}}_{0}ln(sin x)cdot sin xdx$




What I try:-> Integration by parts



assuming $displaystyle I = intln(sin x)cdot sin xdx = -ln(sin x)cdot cos x+intfrac{cos^2 x}{sin x}dx$



$displaystyle I = -ln(sin x)cdot cos x+intfrac{1-sin^2 x}{sin x}dx$



$ = -ln(sin x)cos x+lnbigg(tanfrac{x}{2}bigg)-cos x$



$ displaystyle int^{frac{pi}{2}}_{0}ln(sin x)cos xdx = bigg[-ln(sin x)cos x+lnbigg(tanfrac{x}{2}bigg)-cos xbigg]bigg|^{frac{pi}{2}}_{0}=-ln(0)+ln(0)$



but answer is $ln(2/e)$



could some explain me why I have got wrong answer,thanks



also explain me How I solve it using double integral







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    $log(0)$ is not a number.
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    – Jack D'Aurizio
    Oct 15 '18 at 15:00










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    Thanks Jack D'Aurizio, we have to write it as $lim_{xrightarrow 0}ln(sin x)cdot cos x$
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    – DXT
    Oct 15 '18 at 15:01






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    $begingroup$
    It still does not exist. $lim(a-b) = lim a-lim b$ only if both $lim a$ and $lim b$ make sense.
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    – Jack D'Aurizio
    Oct 15 '18 at 15:03














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    $log(0)$ is not a number.
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    – Jack D'Aurizio
    Oct 15 '18 at 15:00










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    Thanks Jack D'Aurizio, we have to write it as $lim_{xrightarrow 0}ln(sin x)cdot cos x$
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    – DXT
    Oct 15 '18 at 15:01






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    $begingroup$
    It still does not exist. $lim(a-b) = lim a-lim b$ only if both $lim a$ and $lim b$ make sense.
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    – Jack D'Aurizio
    Oct 15 '18 at 15:03








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$log(0)$ is not a number.
$endgroup$
– Jack D'Aurizio
Oct 15 '18 at 15:00




$begingroup$
$log(0)$ is not a number.
$endgroup$
– Jack D'Aurizio
Oct 15 '18 at 15:00












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Thanks Jack D'Aurizio, we have to write it as $lim_{xrightarrow 0}ln(sin x)cdot cos x$
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– DXT
Oct 15 '18 at 15:01




$begingroup$
Thanks Jack D'Aurizio, we have to write it as $lim_{xrightarrow 0}ln(sin x)cdot cos x$
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– DXT
Oct 15 '18 at 15:01




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It still does not exist. $lim(a-b) = lim a-lim b$ only if both $lim a$ and $lim b$ make sense.
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Oct 15 '18 at 15:03




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It still does not exist. $lim(a-b) = lim a-lim b$ only if both $lim a$ and $lim b$ make sense.
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begin{align}
I&=int^{frac{pi}{2}}_{0}ln(sin x)cdot sin x,dx
tag{1}label{1}
end{align}



begin{align}
I&=int^{frac{pi}{2}}_{0}tfrac12ln(sin^2 x)cdot sin x,dx
tag{2}label{2}
\
&=
int^{frac{pi}{2}}_{0}
tfrac12ln(1-cos^2 x)cdot sin x,dx
tag{3}label{3}
.
end{align}



Let $t=cos x$, then we have



begin{align}
I&=tfrac12int_0^1ln(1-t^2),dt
\
&=
tfrac12int_0^1ln(1-t)+ln(1+t),dt
\
&=
left.tfrac12
(
1-t-(1-t)ln(1-t)
+(t+1)ln(t+1)-1-t
)right|_0^1
=ln2-1
.
end{align}






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$logsin x$ has a well-known Fourier series:
$$ logsin x=-log 2-sum_{kgeq 1}frac{cos(2k x)}{k} $$
and for any $kinmathbb{N}^+$ we have
$$ int_{0}^{pi/2}cos(2kx)sin(x),dx = -frac{1}{(2k-1)(2k+1)}, $$
hence
$$ int_{0}^{pi/2}sin(x)logsin(x),dx = -log(2)+sum_{kgeq 1}frac{1}{(2k-1)k(2k+1)} $$
where the last series equals $-1+2log 2$ by partial fraction decomposition. It follows that
$$ int_{0}^{pi/2}sin(x)logsin(x),dx = log(2)-1 $$
as wanted.






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    Thanks Jack D'Aurizio. caoul you please explain me how i find $displaystyle int^{frac{pi}{2}}_{0}cos(2kx)cdot sin (x)dx =frac{1}{(1+2k)(1-2k)}.$
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    @DurgeshTiwari: Sine addition formulas and explicit integration.
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    It's not that I don't like the elegance of your answer, it's just that the question is probably from a Calc II or Calc III class where, much of the time, Fourier series haven't been properly introduced.
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    @Leo: that is not my fault. According to my opinion, Fourier series should be introduced as soon as possible, since they provide multiple ways for explicit evaluations, like in this case or in Basel problem. I also do not believe this exercise comes from a Calc-X class: the OP is asking for elementary integrals from quite some time.
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    Why is this called a 'Fourier' series? Is that just the name for any trigonometric series? or can one find it using the classic method?
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Other answers are good but I prefer to talk about yours. You found (with a typo)
begin{align}
int_{0}^{frac{pi}{2}}ln(sin x) sin x dx
&= -ln(sin x)cos x+lnbigg(tanfrac{x}{2}bigg)color{red}{+}cos xBig|_{0}^{frac{pi}{2}} \
&= 0 + lim_{xto0}bigg(ln(sin x)cos x+lntanfrac{x}{2}bigg)-1 \
&= 0 + lim_{xto0}bigg(ln(1+cos x)-(1-cos x)lnsin xbigg)-1 \
&= ln2-1
end{align}






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    Here is an approach following along lines similar to your own answer. There is however a small subtlety used in the first integration by parts step.



    On integrating by parts, we have
    $$int_0^{frac{pi}{2}} sin x ln (sin x) , dx = (1 - cos x) ln (sin x) Big{|}_0^{pi/2} - int_0^{frac{pi}{2}} (1 - cos x) cdot frac{cos x}{sin x} , dx.$$
    Note the subtlety here. Having chosen $v' = sin x$ we have used $v = 1 - cos x$, that is, a non-zero constant of integration has been selected. Doing so means one has zero at the upper and lower limits of integration.



    Continuing, we have
    begin{align}
    int_0^{frac{pi}{2}} sin x ln (sin x) , dx &= int_0^{frac{pi}{2}} frac{-cos x + cos^2 x}{sin x} , dx\
    &= int_0^{frac{pi}{2}} frac{-cos x + 1 - sin^2 x}{sin x} , dx\
    &= int_0^{frac{pi}{2}} left [text{cosec} , x - cot x - sin x right ] , dx\
    &= left [-ln (text{cosec} ,x + cot x) - ln (sin x) + cos x right ]_0^{pi/2}\
    &= left [-ln (1 + cos x) + cos x right ]_0^{pi/2}\
    &= ln 2 - 1,
    end{align}

    as expected.






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      begin{align}
      I&=int^{frac{pi}{2}}_{0}ln(sin x)cdot sin x,dx
      tag{1}label{1}
      end{align}



      begin{align}
      I&=int^{frac{pi}{2}}_{0}tfrac12ln(sin^2 x)cdot sin x,dx
      tag{2}label{2}
      \
      &=
      int^{frac{pi}{2}}_{0}
      tfrac12ln(1-cos^2 x)cdot sin x,dx
      tag{3}label{3}
      .
      end{align}



      Let $t=cos x$, then we have



      begin{align}
      I&=tfrac12int_0^1ln(1-t^2),dt
      \
      &=
      tfrac12int_0^1ln(1-t)+ln(1+t),dt
      \
      &=
      left.tfrac12
      (
      1-t-(1-t)ln(1-t)
      +(t+1)ln(t+1)-1-t
      )right|_0^1
      =ln2-1
      .
      end{align}






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      begin{align}
      I&=int^{frac{pi}{2}}_{0}ln(sin x)cdot sin x,dx
      tag{1}label{1}
      end{align}



      begin{align}
      I&=int^{frac{pi}{2}}_{0}tfrac12ln(sin^2 x)cdot sin x,dx
      tag{2}label{2}
      \
      &=
      int^{frac{pi}{2}}_{0}
      tfrac12ln(1-cos^2 x)cdot sin x,dx
      tag{3}label{3}
      .
      end{align}



      Let $t=cos x$, then we have



      begin{align}
      I&=tfrac12int_0^1ln(1-t^2),dt
      \
      &=
      tfrac12int_0^1ln(1-t)+ln(1+t),dt
      \
      &=
      left.tfrac12
      (
      1-t-(1-t)ln(1-t)
      +(t+1)ln(t+1)-1-t
      )right|_0^1
      =ln2-1
      .
      end{align}






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      begin{align}
      I&=int^{frac{pi}{2}}_{0}ln(sin x)cdot sin x,dx
      tag{1}label{1}
      end{align}



      begin{align}
      I&=int^{frac{pi}{2}}_{0}tfrac12ln(sin^2 x)cdot sin x,dx
      tag{2}label{2}
      \
      &=
      int^{frac{pi}{2}}_{0}
      tfrac12ln(1-cos^2 x)cdot sin x,dx
      tag{3}label{3}
      .
      end{align}



      Let $t=cos x$, then we have



      begin{align}
      I&=tfrac12int_0^1ln(1-t^2),dt
      \
      &=
      tfrac12int_0^1ln(1-t)+ln(1+t),dt
      \
      &=
      left.tfrac12
      (
      1-t-(1-t)ln(1-t)
      +(t+1)ln(t+1)-1-t
      )right|_0^1
      =ln2-1
      .
      end{align}






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      begin{align}
      I&=int^{frac{pi}{2}}_{0}ln(sin x)cdot sin x,dx
      tag{1}label{1}
      end{align}



      begin{align}
      I&=int^{frac{pi}{2}}_{0}tfrac12ln(sin^2 x)cdot sin x,dx
      tag{2}label{2}
      \
      &=
      int^{frac{pi}{2}}_{0}
      tfrac12ln(1-cos^2 x)cdot sin x,dx
      tag{3}label{3}
      .
      end{align}



      Let $t=cos x$, then we have



      begin{align}
      I&=tfrac12int_0^1ln(1-t^2),dt
      \
      &=
      tfrac12int_0^1ln(1-t)+ln(1+t),dt
      \
      &=
      left.tfrac12
      (
      1-t-(1-t)ln(1-t)
      +(t+1)ln(t+1)-1-t
      )right|_0^1
      =ln2-1
      .
      end{align}







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        This is the calculus I answer that the user should've gotten in the first place xD.
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        This is the calculus I answer that the user should've gotten in the first place xD.
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      This is the calculus I answer that the user should've gotten in the first place xD.
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      Oct 15 '18 at 15:32




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      $logsin x$ has a well-known Fourier series:
      $$ logsin x=-log 2-sum_{kgeq 1}frac{cos(2k x)}{k} $$
      and for any $kinmathbb{N}^+$ we have
      $$ int_{0}^{pi/2}cos(2kx)sin(x),dx = -frac{1}{(2k-1)(2k+1)}, $$
      hence
      $$ int_{0}^{pi/2}sin(x)logsin(x),dx = -log(2)+sum_{kgeq 1}frac{1}{(2k-1)k(2k+1)} $$
      where the last series equals $-1+2log 2$ by partial fraction decomposition. It follows that
      $$ int_{0}^{pi/2}sin(x)logsin(x),dx = log(2)-1 $$
      as wanted.






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        Thanks Jack D'Aurizio. caoul you please explain me how i find $displaystyle int^{frac{pi}{2}}_{0}cos(2kx)cdot sin (x)dx =frac{1}{(1+2k)(1-2k)}.$
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        @DurgeshTiwari: Sine addition formulas and explicit integration.
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        – Jack D'Aurizio
        Oct 15 '18 at 15:04






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        It's not that I don't like the elegance of your answer, it's just that the question is probably from a Calc II or Calc III class where, much of the time, Fourier series haven't been properly introduced.
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        – Leo
        Oct 15 '18 at 15:05






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        @Leo: that is not my fault. According to my opinion, Fourier series should be introduced as soon as possible, since they provide multiple ways for explicit evaluations, like in this case or in Basel problem. I also do not believe this exercise comes from a Calc-X class: the OP is asking for elementary integrals from quite some time.
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        Why is this called a 'Fourier' series? Is that just the name for any trigonometric series? or can one find it using the classic method?
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      $logsin x$ has a well-known Fourier series:
      $$ logsin x=-log 2-sum_{kgeq 1}frac{cos(2k x)}{k} $$
      and for any $kinmathbb{N}^+$ we have
      $$ int_{0}^{pi/2}cos(2kx)sin(x),dx = -frac{1}{(2k-1)(2k+1)}, $$
      hence
      $$ int_{0}^{pi/2}sin(x)logsin(x),dx = -log(2)+sum_{kgeq 1}frac{1}{(2k-1)k(2k+1)} $$
      where the last series equals $-1+2log 2$ by partial fraction decomposition. It follows that
      $$ int_{0}^{pi/2}sin(x)logsin(x),dx = log(2)-1 $$
      as wanted.






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        Thanks Jack D'Aurizio. caoul you please explain me how i find $displaystyle int^{frac{pi}{2}}_{0}cos(2kx)cdot sin (x)dx =frac{1}{(1+2k)(1-2k)}.$
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        Oct 15 '18 at 15:03










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        @DurgeshTiwari: Sine addition formulas and explicit integration.
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        – Jack D'Aurizio
        Oct 15 '18 at 15:04






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        $begingroup$
        It's not that I don't like the elegance of your answer, it's just that the question is probably from a Calc II or Calc III class where, much of the time, Fourier series haven't been properly introduced.
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        – Leo
        Oct 15 '18 at 15:05






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        @Leo: that is not my fault. According to my opinion, Fourier series should be introduced as soon as possible, since they provide multiple ways for explicit evaluations, like in this case or in Basel problem. I also do not believe this exercise comes from a Calc-X class: the OP is asking for elementary integrals from quite some time.
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        – Jack D'Aurizio
        Oct 15 '18 at 15:07










      • $begingroup$
        Why is this called a 'Fourier' series? Is that just the name for any trigonometric series? or can one find it using the classic method?
        $endgroup$
        – clathratus
        Jan 12 at 23:34














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      $logsin x$ has a well-known Fourier series:
      $$ logsin x=-log 2-sum_{kgeq 1}frac{cos(2k x)}{k} $$
      and for any $kinmathbb{N}^+$ we have
      $$ int_{0}^{pi/2}cos(2kx)sin(x),dx = -frac{1}{(2k-1)(2k+1)}, $$
      hence
      $$ int_{0}^{pi/2}sin(x)logsin(x),dx = -log(2)+sum_{kgeq 1}frac{1}{(2k-1)k(2k+1)} $$
      where the last series equals $-1+2log 2$ by partial fraction decomposition. It follows that
      $$ int_{0}^{pi/2}sin(x)logsin(x),dx = log(2)-1 $$
      as wanted.






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      $logsin x$ has a well-known Fourier series:
      $$ logsin x=-log 2-sum_{kgeq 1}frac{cos(2k x)}{k} $$
      and for any $kinmathbb{N}^+$ we have
      $$ int_{0}^{pi/2}cos(2kx)sin(x),dx = -frac{1}{(2k-1)(2k+1)}, $$
      hence
      $$ int_{0}^{pi/2}sin(x)logsin(x),dx = -log(2)+sum_{kgeq 1}frac{1}{(2k-1)k(2k+1)} $$
      where the last series equals $-1+2log 2$ by partial fraction decomposition. It follows that
      $$ int_{0}^{pi/2}sin(x)logsin(x),dx = log(2)-1 $$
      as wanted.







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      answered Oct 15 '18 at 14:57









      Jack D'AurizioJack D'Aurizio

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        Thanks Jack D'Aurizio. caoul you please explain me how i find $displaystyle int^{frac{pi}{2}}_{0}cos(2kx)cdot sin (x)dx =frac{1}{(1+2k)(1-2k)}.$
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        – DXT
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        @DurgeshTiwari: Sine addition formulas and explicit integration.
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        – Jack D'Aurizio
        Oct 15 '18 at 15:04






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        It's not that I don't like the elegance of your answer, it's just that the question is probably from a Calc II or Calc III class where, much of the time, Fourier series haven't been properly introduced.
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        – Leo
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        @Leo: that is not my fault. According to my opinion, Fourier series should be introduced as soon as possible, since they provide multiple ways for explicit evaluations, like in this case or in Basel problem. I also do not believe this exercise comes from a Calc-X class: the OP is asking for elementary integrals from quite some time.
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        Why is this called a 'Fourier' series? Is that just the name for any trigonometric series? or can one find it using the classic method?
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        Jan 12 at 23:34


















      • $begingroup$
        Thanks Jack D'Aurizio. caoul you please explain me how i find $displaystyle int^{frac{pi}{2}}_{0}cos(2kx)cdot sin (x)dx =frac{1}{(1+2k)(1-2k)}.$
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        – DXT
        Oct 15 '18 at 15:03










      • $begingroup$
        @DurgeshTiwari: Sine addition formulas and explicit integration.
        $endgroup$
        – Jack D'Aurizio
        Oct 15 '18 at 15:04






      • 2




        $begingroup$
        It's not that I don't like the elegance of your answer, it's just that the question is probably from a Calc II or Calc III class where, much of the time, Fourier series haven't been properly introduced.
        $endgroup$
        – Leo
        Oct 15 '18 at 15:05






      • 2




        $begingroup$
        @Leo: that is not my fault. According to my opinion, Fourier series should be introduced as soon as possible, since they provide multiple ways for explicit evaluations, like in this case or in Basel problem. I also do not believe this exercise comes from a Calc-X class: the OP is asking for elementary integrals from quite some time.
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        – Jack D'Aurizio
        Oct 15 '18 at 15:07










      • $begingroup$
        Why is this called a 'Fourier' series? Is that just the name for any trigonometric series? or can one find it using the classic method?
        $endgroup$
        – clathratus
        Jan 12 at 23:34
















      $begingroup$
      Thanks Jack D'Aurizio. caoul you please explain me how i find $displaystyle int^{frac{pi}{2}}_{0}cos(2kx)cdot sin (x)dx =frac{1}{(1+2k)(1-2k)}.$
      $endgroup$
      – DXT
      Oct 15 '18 at 15:03




      $begingroup$
      Thanks Jack D'Aurizio. caoul you please explain me how i find $displaystyle int^{frac{pi}{2}}_{0}cos(2kx)cdot sin (x)dx =frac{1}{(1+2k)(1-2k)}.$
      $endgroup$
      – DXT
      Oct 15 '18 at 15:03












      $begingroup$
      @DurgeshTiwari: Sine addition formulas and explicit integration.
      $endgroup$
      – Jack D'Aurizio
      Oct 15 '18 at 15:04




      $begingroup$
      @DurgeshTiwari: Sine addition formulas and explicit integration.
      $endgroup$
      – Jack D'Aurizio
      Oct 15 '18 at 15:04




      2




      2




      $begingroup$
      It's not that I don't like the elegance of your answer, it's just that the question is probably from a Calc II or Calc III class where, much of the time, Fourier series haven't been properly introduced.
      $endgroup$
      – Leo
      Oct 15 '18 at 15:05




      $begingroup$
      It's not that I don't like the elegance of your answer, it's just that the question is probably from a Calc II or Calc III class where, much of the time, Fourier series haven't been properly introduced.
      $endgroup$
      – Leo
      Oct 15 '18 at 15:05




      2




      2




      $begingroup$
      @Leo: that is not my fault. According to my opinion, Fourier series should be introduced as soon as possible, since they provide multiple ways for explicit evaluations, like in this case or in Basel problem. I also do not believe this exercise comes from a Calc-X class: the OP is asking for elementary integrals from quite some time.
      $endgroup$
      – Jack D'Aurizio
      Oct 15 '18 at 15:07




      $begingroup$
      @Leo: that is not my fault. According to my opinion, Fourier series should be introduced as soon as possible, since they provide multiple ways for explicit evaluations, like in this case or in Basel problem. I also do not believe this exercise comes from a Calc-X class: the OP is asking for elementary integrals from quite some time.
      $endgroup$
      – Jack D'Aurizio
      Oct 15 '18 at 15:07












      $begingroup$
      Why is this called a 'Fourier' series? Is that just the name for any trigonometric series? or can one find it using the classic method?
      $endgroup$
      – clathratus
      Jan 12 at 23:34




      $begingroup$
      Why is this called a 'Fourier' series? Is that just the name for any trigonometric series? or can one find it using the classic method?
      $endgroup$
      – clathratus
      Jan 12 at 23:34











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      Other answers are good but I prefer to talk about yours. You found (with a typo)
      begin{align}
      int_{0}^{frac{pi}{2}}ln(sin x) sin x dx
      &= -ln(sin x)cos x+lnbigg(tanfrac{x}{2}bigg)color{red}{+}cos xBig|_{0}^{frac{pi}{2}} \
      &= 0 + lim_{xto0}bigg(ln(sin x)cos x+lntanfrac{x}{2}bigg)-1 \
      &= 0 + lim_{xto0}bigg(ln(1+cos x)-(1-cos x)lnsin xbigg)-1 \
      &= ln2-1
      end{align}






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        Other answers are good but I prefer to talk about yours. You found (with a typo)
        begin{align}
        int_{0}^{frac{pi}{2}}ln(sin x) sin x dx
        &= -ln(sin x)cos x+lnbigg(tanfrac{x}{2}bigg)color{red}{+}cos xBig|_{0}^{frac{pi}{2}} \
        &= 0 + lim_{xto0}bigg(ln(sin x)cos x+lntanfrac{x}{2}bigg)-1 \
        &= 0 + lim_{xto0}bigg(ln(1+cos x)-(1-cos x)lnsin xbigg)-1 \
        &= ln2-1
        end{align}






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          Other answers are good but I prefer to talk about yours. You found (with a typo)
          begin{align}
          int_{0}^{frac{pi}{2}}ln(sin x) sin x dx
          &= -ln(sin x)cos x+lnbigg(tanfrac{x}{2}bigg)color{red}{+}cos xBig|_{0}^{frac{pi}{2}} \
          &= 0 + lim_{xto0}bigg(ln(sin x)cos x+lntanfrac{x}{2}bigg)-1 \
          &= 0 + lim_{xto0}bigg(ln(1+cos x)-(1-cos x)lnsin xbigg)-1 \
          &= ln2-1
          end{align}






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          Other answers are good but I prefer to talk about yours. You found (with a typo)
          begin{align}
          int_{0}^{frac{pi}{2}}ln(sin x) sin x dx
          &= -ln(sin x)cos x+lnbigg(tanfrac{x}{2}bigg)color{red}{+}cos xBig|_{0}^{frac{pi}{2}} \
          &= 0 + lim_{xto0}bigg(ln(sin x)cos x+lntanfrac{x}{2}bigg)-1 \
          &= 0 + lim_{xto0}bigg(ln(1+cos x)-(1-cos x)lnsin xbigg)-1 \
          &= ln2-1
          end{align}







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          answered Oct 15 '18 at 15:49









          NosratiNosrati

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              Here is an approach following along lines similar to your own answer. There is however a small subtlety used in the first integration by parts step.



              On integrating by parts, we have
              $$int_0^{frac{pi}{2}} sin x ln (sin x) , dx = (1 - cos x) ln (sin x) Big{|}_0^{pi/2} - int_0^{frac{pi}{2}} (1 - cos x) cdot frac{cos x}{sin x} , dx.$$
              Note the subtlety here. Having chosen $v' = sin x$ we have used $v = 1 - cos x$, that is, a non-zero constant of integration has been selected. Doing so means one has zero at the upper and lower limits of integration.



              Continuing, we have
              begin{align}
              int_0^{frac{pi}{2}} sin x ln (sin x) , dx &= int_0^{frac{pi}{2}} frac{-cos x + cos^2 x}{sin x} , dx\
              &= int_0^{frac{pi}{2}} frac{-cos x + 1 - sin^2 x}{sin x} , dx\
              &= int_0^{frac{pi}{2}} left [text{cosec} , x - cot x - sin x right ] , dx\
              &= left [-ln (text{cosec} ,x + cot x) - ln (sin x) + cos x right ]_0^{pi/2}\
              &= left [-ln (1 + cos x) + cos x right ]_0^{pi/2}\
              &= ln 2 - 1,
              end{align}

              as expected.






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                $begingroup$

                Here is an approach following along lines similar to your own answer. There is however a small subtlety used in the first integration by parts step.



                On integrating by parts, we have
                $$int_0^{frac{pi}{2}} sin x ln (sin x) , dx = (1 - cos x) ln (sin x) Big{|}_0^{pi/2} - int_0^{frac{pi}{2}} (1 - cos x) cdot frac{cos x}{sin x} , dx.$$
                Note the subtlety here. Having chosen $v' = sin x$ we have used $v = 1 - cos x$, that is, a non-zero constant of integration has been selected. Doing so means one has zero at the upper and lower limits of integration.



                Continuing, we have
                begin{align}
                int_0^{frac{pi}{2}} sin x ln (sin x) , dx &= int_0^{frac{pi}{2}} frac{-cos x + cos^2 x}{sin x} , dx\
                &= int_0^{frac{pi}{2}} frac{-cos x + 1 - sin^2 x}{sin x} , dx\
                &= int_0^{frac{pi}{2}} left [text{cosec} , x - cot x - sin x right ] , dx\
                &= left [-ln (text{cosec} ,x + cot x) - ln (sin x) + cos x right ]_0^{pi/2}\
                &= left [-ln (1 + cos x) + cos x right ]_0^{pi/2}\
                &= ln 2 - 1,
                end{align}

                as expected.






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                  $begingroup$

                  Here is an approach following along lines similar to your own answer. There is however a small subtlety used in the first integration by parts step.



                  On integrating by parts, we have
                  $$int_0^{frac{pi}{2}} sin x ln (sin x) , dx = (1 - cos x) ln (sin x) Big{|}_0^{pi/2} - int_0^{frac{pi}{2}} (1 - cos x) cdot frac{cos x}{sin x} , dx.$$
                  Note the subtlety here. Having chosen $v' = sin x$ we have used $v = 1 - cos x$, that is, a non-zero constant of integration has been selected. Doing so means one has zero at the upper and lower limits of integration.



                  Continuing, we have
                  begin{align}
                  int_0^{frac{pi}{2}} sin x ln (sin x) , dx &= int_0^{frac{pi}{2}} frac{-cos x + cos^2 x}{sin x} , dx\
                  &= int_0^{frac{pi}{2}} frac{-cos x + 1 - sin^2 x}{sin x} , dx\
                  &= int_0^{frac{pi}{2}} left [text{cosec} , x - cot x - sin x right ] , dx\
                  &= left [-ln (text{cosec} ,x + cot x) - ln (sin x) + cos x right ]_0^{pi/2}\
                  &= left [-ln (1 + cos x) + cos x right ]_0^{pi/2}\
                  &= ln 2 - 1,
                  end{align}

                  as expected.






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                  Here is an approach following along lines similar to your own answer. There is however a small subtlety used in the first integration by parts step.



                  On integrating by parts, we have
                  $$int_0^{frac{pi}{2}} sin x ln (sin x) , dx = (1 - cos x) ln (sin x) Big{|}_0^{pi/2} - int_0^{frac{pi}{2}} (1 - cos x) cdot frac{cos x}{sin x} , dx.$$
                  Note the subtlety here. Having chosen $v' = sin x$ we have used $v = 1 - cos x$, that is, a non-zero constant of integration has been selected. Doing so means one has zero at the upper and lower limits of integration.



                  Continuing, we have
                  begin{align}
                  int_0^{frac{pi}{2}} sin x ln (sin x) , dx &= int_0^{frac{pi}{2}} frac{-cos x + cos^2 x}{sin x} , dx\
                  &= int_0^{frac{pi}{2}} frac{-cos x + 1 - sin^2 x}{sin x} , dx\
                  &= int_0^{frac{pi}{2}} left [text{cosec} , x - cot x - sin x right ] , dx\
                  &= left [-ln (text{cosec} ,x + cot x) - ln (sin x) + cos x right ]_0^{pi/2}\
                  &= left [-ln (1 + cos x) + cos x right ]_0^{pi/2}\
                  &= ln 2 - 1,
                  end{align}

                  as expected.







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                  answered Dec 17 '18 at 10:05









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