$mathcal{L}_{mathbb{R}} otimes mathcal{L}_{mathbb{R}} subset mathcal{L}_{mathbb{R}^2}$
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The Borel $sigma$-algebra of $mathbb{R}^n$, $mathcal{B}_{mathbb{R}^n}$, is defined as the smallest $sigma$-algebra of $mathbb{R}^n$ containing the open sets of $mathbb{R}^n$ for its usual topology.
The Lebesgue $sigma$-algebra of $mathbb{R}^n$, $mathcal{L}_{mathbb{R}^n}$, is characterized as the set of all subsets $A$ of $mathbb{R}^n$ that can be written as $A = B cup N$, where $B$ is a Borel set and $N$ is a null-set (with respect to the Borel-Lebesgue measure). It is the completion of $mathcal{B}_{mathbb{R}^n}$ with respect to the Borel-Lebesgue measure : $mathcal{L}_{mathbb{R}^n} = widehat{mathcal{B}_{mathbb{R}^n}}$.
I know that $mathcal{B}_{mathbb{R}^2} = mathcal{B}_{mathbb{R}} otimes mathcal{B}_{mathbb{R}}$.
I want to show the following (clearly) equivalent assertions :
$mathcal{L}_{mathbb{R}} otimes mathcal{L}_{mathbb{R}} subset
mathcal{L}_{mathbb{R}^2}$
$widehat{mathcal{B}_{mathbb{R}}} otimes
widehat{mathcal{B}_{mathbb{R}}} subset
widehat{mathcal{B}_{mathbb{R}^2}}$
$widehat{mathcal{B}_{mathbb{R}}} otimes
widehat{mathcal{B}_{mathbb{R}}} subset
widehat{mathcal{B}_{mathbb{R}} otimes
mathcal{B}_{mathbb{R}}}$ .
I think that what I need to show is that if $B_1$, $B_2$ are Borel sets of $mathbb{R}$ and $N_1$, $N_2$ null sets of $mathbb{R}$, then $(B_1 times N_2) cup (N_1 times B_2) cup (N_1 times N_2)$ is a null-set of $mathbb{R}^2$.
Thanks.
Edit :
@G. Sassatelli : Thank you for pointing out this already existing topic. Nevertheless, they don't explain there why $(B_1 times N_2) cup (N_1 times B_2) cup (N_1 times N_2)$ is a null-set of $mathbb{R}^2$. So here is my new question :
Let $B_1$, $B_2$ be Borel sets of $mathbb{R}$ and $N_1$, $N_2$ be
null sets of $mathbb{R}$.
Why is $(B_1 times N_2) cup (N_1 times B_2) cup (N_1 times N_2)$
a null-set of $mathbb{R}^2$ ?
measure-theory lebesgue-measure
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The Borel $sigma$-algebra of $mathbb{R}^n$, $mathcal{B}_{mathbb{R}^n}$, is defined as the smallest $sigma$-algebra of $mathbb{R}^n$ containing the open sets of $mathbb{R}^n$ for its usual topology.
The Lebesgue $sigma$-algebra of $mathbb{R}^n$, $mathcal{L}_{mathbb{R}^n}$, is characterized as the set of all subsets $A$ of $mathbb{R}^n$ that can be written as $A = B cup N$, where $B$ is a Borel set and $N$ is a null-set (with respect to the Borel-Lebesgue measure). It is the completion of $mathcal{B}_{mathbb{R}^n}$ with respect to the Borel-Lebesgue measure : $mathcal{L}_{mathbb{R}^n} = widehat{mathcal{B}_{mathbb{R}^n}}$.
I know that $mathcal{B}_{mathbb{R}^2} = mathcal{B}_{mathbb{R}} otimes mathcal{B}_{mathbb{R}}$.
I want to show the following (clearly) equivalent assertions :
$mathcal{L}_{mathbb{R}} otimes mathcal{L}_{mathbb{R}} subset
mathcal{L}_{mathbb{R}^2}$
$widehat{mathcal{B}_{mathbb{R}}} otimes
widehat{mathcal{B}_{mathbb{R}}} subset
widehat{mathcal{B}_{mathbb{R}^2}}$
$widehat{mathcal{B}_{mathbb{R}}} otimes
widehat{mathcal{B}_{mathbb{R}}} subset
widehat{mathcal{B}_{mathbb{R}} otimes
mathcal{B}_{mathbb{R}}}$ .
I think that what I need to show is that if $B_1$, $B_2$ are Borel sets of $mathbb{R}$ and $N_1$, $N_2$ null sets of $mathbb{R}$, then $(B_1 times N_2) cup (N_1 times B_2) cup (N_1 times N_2)$ is a null-set of $mathbb{R}^2$.
Thanks.
Edit :
@G. Sassatelli : Thank you for pointing out this already existing topic. Nevertheless, they don't explain there why $(B_1 times N_2) cup (N_1 times B_2) cup (N_1 times N_2)$ is a null-set of $mathbb{R}^2$. So here is my new question :
Let $B_1$, $B_2$ be Borel sets of $mathbb{R}$ and $N_1$, $N_2$ be
null sets of $mathbb{R}$.
Why is $(B_1 times N_2) cup (N_1 times B_2) cup (N_1 times N_2)$
a null-set of $mathbb{R}^2$ ?
measure-theory lebesgue-measure
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The Borel $sigma$-algebra of $mathbb{R}^n$, $mathcal{B}_{mathbb{R}^n}$, is defined as the smallest $sigma$-algebra of $mathbb{R}^n$ containing the open sets of $mathbb{R}^n$ for its usual topology.
The Lebesgue $sigma$-algebra of $mathbb{R}^n$, $mathcal{L}_{mathbb{R}^n}$, is characterized as the set of all subsets $A$ of $mathbb{R}^n$ that can be written as $A = B cup N$, where $B$ is a Borel set and $N$ is a null-set (with respect to the Borel-Lebesgue measure). It is the completion of $mathcal{B}_{mathbb{R}^n}$ with respect to the Borel-Lebesgue measure : $mathcal{L}_{mathbb{R}^n} = widehat{mathcal{B}_{mathbb{R}^n}}$.
I know that $mathcal{B}_{mathbb{R}^2} = mathcal{B}_{mathbb{R}} otimes mathcal{B}_{mathbb{R}}$.
I want to show the following (clearly) equivalent assertions :
$mathcal{L}_{mathbb{R}} otimes mathcal{L}_{mathbb{R}} subset
mathcal{L}_{mathbb{R}^2}$
$widehat{mathcal{B}_{mathbb{R}}} otimes
widehat{mathcal{B}_{mathbb{R}}} subset
widehat{mathcal{B}_{mathbb{R}^2}}$
$widehat{mathcal{B}_{mathbb{R}}} otimes
widehat{mathcal{B}_{mathbb{R}}} subset
widehat{mathcal{B}_{mathbb{R}} otimes
mathcal{B}_{mathbb{R}}}$ .
I think that what I need to show is that if $B_1$, $B_2$ are Borel sets of $mathbb{R}$ and $N_1$, $N_2$ null sets of $mathbb{R}$, then $(B_1 times N_2) cup (N_1 times B_2) cup (N_1 times N_2)$ is a null-set of $mathbb{R}^2$.
Thanks.
Edit :
@G. Sassatelli : Thank you for pointing out this already existing topic. Nevertheless, they don't explain there why $(B_1 times N_2) cup (N_1 times B_2) cup (N_1 times N_2)$ is a null-set of $mathbb{R}^2$. So here is my new question :
Let $B_1$, $B_2$ be Borel sets of $mathbb{R}$ and $N_1$, $N_2$ be
null sets of $mathbb{R}$.
Why is $(B_1 times N_2) cup (N_1 times B_2) cup (N_1 times N_2)$
a null-set of $mathbb{R}^2$ ?
measure-theory lebesgue-measure
$endgroup$
The Borel $sigma$-algebra of $mathbb{R}^n$, $mathcal{B}_{mathbb{R}^n}$, is defined as the smallest $sigma$-algebra of $mathbb{R}^n$ containing the open sets of $mathbb{R}^n$ for its usual topology.
The Lebesgue $sigma$-algebra of $mathbb{R}^n$, $mathcal{L}_{mathbb{R}^n}$, is characterized as the set of all subsets $A$ of $mathbb{R}^n$ that can be written as $A = B cup N$, where $B$ is a Borel set and $N$ is a null-set (with respect to the Borel-Lebesgue measure). It is the completion of $mathcal{B}_{mathbb{R}^n}$ with respect to the Borel-Lebesgue measure : $mathcal{L}_{mathbb{R}^n} = widehat{mathcal{B}_{mathbb{R}^n}}$.
I know that $mathcal{B}_{mathbb{R}^2} = mathcal{B}_{mathbb{R}} otimes mathcal{B}_{mathbb{R}}$.
I want to show the following (clearly) equivalent assertions :
$mathcal{L}_{mathbb{R}} otimes mathcal{L}_{mathbb{R}} subset
mathcal{L}_{mathbb{R}^2}$
$widehat{mathcal{B}_{mathbb{R}}} otimes
widehat{mathcal{B}_{mathbb{R}}} subset
widehat{mathcal{B}_{mathbb{R}^2}}$
$widehat{mathcal{B}_{mathbb{R}}} otimes
widehat{mathcal{B}_{mathbb{R}}} subset
widehat{mathcal{B}_{mathbb{R}} otimes
mathcal{B}_{mathbb{R}}}$ .
I think that what I need to show is that if $B_1$, $B_2$ are Borel sets of $mathbb{R}$ and $N_1$, $N_2$ null sets of $mathbb{R}$, then $(B_1 times N_2) cup (N_1 times B_2) cup (N_1 times N_2)$ is a null-set of $mathbb{R}^2$.
Thanks.
Edit :
@G. Sassatelli : Thank you for pointing out this already existing topic. Nevertheless, they don't explain there why $(B_1 times N_2) cup (N_1 times B_2) cup (N_1 times N_2)$ is a null-set of $mathbb{R}^2$. So here is my new question :
Let $B_1$, $B_2$ be Borel sets of $mathbb{R}$ and $N_1$, $N_2$ be
null sets of $mathbb{R}$.
Why is $(B_1 times N_2) cup (N_1 times B_2) cup (N_1 times N_2)$
a null-set of $mathbb{R}^2$ ?
measure-theory lebesgue-measure
measure-theory lebesgue-measure
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In order to see that
$$
S=(B_1 times N_2) cup (N_1 times B_2) cup (N_1 times N_2)=S_1cup S_2cup S_3.$$
is a null-set of $mathbb R^2$, it suffices to show that if $A$ is a Borel-measurable set and $N$ a null-set, then $Atimes N$ is a null-set. This would prove that $S_1$ is a null-set; for $S_2$ it work similarly with switched coordinates and for $S_3$ pick a Borel set $A$ of measure $0$ containing $N_1$.
Since $N$ is a null-set, there exists a Borel-measurable set $N'$ containing $N$ and whose Lebesgue measure is $0$. Therefore, $Atimes Nsubset Atimes N'$, and the latter is a Borel subset of $mathbb R^2$ of measure zero.
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In order to see that
$$
S=(B_1 times N_2) cup (N_1 times B_2) cup (N_1 times N_2)=S_1cup S_2cup S_3.$$
is a null-set of $mathbb R^2$, it suffices to show that if $A$ is a Borel-measurable set and $N$ a null-set, then $Atimes N$ is a null-set. This would prove that $S_1$ is a null-set; for $S_2$ it work similarly with switched coordinates and for $S_3$ pick a Borel set $A$ of measure $0$ containing $N_1$.
Since $N$ is a null-set, there exists a Borel-measurable set $N'$ containing $N$ and whose Lebesgue measure is $0$. Therefore, $Atimes Nsubset Atimes N'$, and the latter is a Borel subset of $mathbb R^2$ of measure zero.
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In order to see that
$$
S=(B_1 times N_2) cup (N_1 times B_2) cup (N_1 times N_2)=S_1cup S_2cup S_3.$$
is a null-set of $mathbb R^2$, it suffices to show that if $A$ is a Borel-measurable set and $N$ a null-set, then $Atimes N$ is a null-set. This would prove that $S_1$ is a null-set; for $S_2$ it work similarly with switched coordinates and for $S_3$ pick a Borel set $A$ of measure $0$ containing $N_1$.
Since $N$ is a null-set, there exists a Borel-measurable set $N'$ containing $N$ and whose Lebesgue measure is $0$. Therefore, $Atimes Nsubset Atimes N'$, and the latter is a Borel subset of $mathbb R^2$ of measure zero.
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In order to see that
$$
S=(B_1 times N_2) cup (N_1 times B_2) cup (N_1 times N_2)=S_1cup S_2cup S_3.$$
is a null-set of $mathbb R^2$, it suffices to show that if $A$ is a Borel-measurable set and $N$ a null-set, then $Atimes N$ is a null-set. This would prove that $S_1$ is a null-set; for $S_2$ it work similarly with switched coordinates and for $S_3$ pick a Borel set $A$ of measure $0$ containing $N_1$.
Since $N$ is a null-set, there exists a Borel-measurable set $N'$ containing $N$ and whose Lebesgue measure is $0$. Therefore, $Atimes Nsubset Atimes N'$, and the latter is a Borel subset of $mathbb R^2$ of measure zero.
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In order to see that
$$
S=(B_1 times N_2) cup (N_1 times B_2) cup (N_1 times N_2)=S_1cup S_2cup S_3.$$
is a null-set of $mathbb R^2$, it suffices to show that if $A$ is a Borel-measurable set and $N$ a null-set, then $Atimes N$ is a null-set. This would prove that $S_1$ is a null-set; for $S_2$ it work similarly with switched coordinates and for $S_3$ pick a Borel set $A$ of measure $0$ containing $N_1$.
Since $N$ is a null-set, there exists a Borel-measurable set $N'$ containing $N$ and whose Lebesgue measure is $0$. Therefore, $Atimes Nsubset Atimes N'$, and the latter is a Borel subset of $mathbb R^2$ of measure zero.
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