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    Using them together is quite funny (because they're basically the same thing), hence why this comedy duo refer to themselves as Police Cops

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  • @Richard I think the origin of that is the Simpsons from 1999.

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    Using them together is quite funny (because they're basically the same thing), hence why this comedy duo refer to themselves as Police Cops

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    Using them together is quite funny (because they're basically the same thing), hence why this comedy duo refer to themselves as Police Cops

    – Richard
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  • @Richard I think the origin of that is the Simpsons from 1999.

    – user71659
    Dec 23 '18 at 23:02
















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    Using them together is quite funny (because they're basically the same thing), hence why this comedy duo refer to themselves as Police Cops

    – Richard
    Dec 23 '18 at 19:05











  • @Richard I think the origin of that is the Simpsons from 1999.

    – user71659
    Dec 23 '18 at 23:02










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Using them together is quite funny (because they're basically the same thing), hence why this comedy duo refer to themselves as Police Cops

– Richard
Dec 23 '18 at 19:05





Using them together is quite funny (because they're basically the same thing), hence why this comedy duo refer to themselves as Police Cops

– Richard
Dec 23 '18 at 19:05













@Richard I think the origin of that is the Simpsons from 1999.

– user71659
Dec 23 '18 at 23:02







@Richard I think the origin of that is the Simpsons from 1999.

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'Police cop' used as a noun to denote a police officer would be an example of 'redundancy' (saying or writing the same thing twice - a 'cop' is a police officer, so 'a police cop' means 'a police police officer') like e.g. "navy sailor" or "air force airman" and would not be used by native speakers. However it is not grammatically wrong, just as 'police car' or 'police building' are not 'grammatically' wrong. One way that "police cop" would not be redundant would be if it referred to a specialised police officer whose job was to detect wrongdoing by other police officers. In English usage, redundancy is usually defined as the use of two or more words that say the same thing, but we also use the term to refer to any expression in which a modifier’s meaning is contained in the word it modifies.



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    I've heard police cop used informally to refer to people who work in Internal Affairs. (In other words, people who police the police.)

    – Jason Bassford
    Dec 23 '18 at 14:04






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    Quis custodiet, eh?

    – Michael Harvey
    Dec 23 '18 at 14:23











  • I should note that in British usage, any member of the Royal Navy or the Royal Air Force is known as a 'sailor' or 'airman/airwoman' respectively, even if their duties do not involve sailing in ships or flying in planes.

    – Michael Harvey
    Dec 23 '18 at 14:49











  • Since anybody who works on a seagoing vessel is a sailor ...

    – Joshua
    Dec 23 '18 at 16:08






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    I was noting the redundancy of "navy sailor". There are parts of the British navy (and others, I think) that exist on land; dockyards, air bases, depots of various kinds, and so on, and an enlisted person or officer of that navy is still a "sailor" even if he or she never goes in a ship or boat.

    – Michael Harvey
    Dec 23 '18 at 16:22



















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"Police cop" is incorrect.



List of alternatives:

"The police" is alright.

"The Police" is a good rock band.

"policeman"

"police officer"

"cop". Informal usage.






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    While you're on the subject, you may be interested in the huge variety of words and terms used to refer to the police: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_police-related_slang_terms

    – Ronald Sole
    Dec 23 '18 at 12:33





















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It would be very rare that it is right to use this. An example: There is "military police" which handles police situations in the army. You might ask "is this man with the military police" and someone could then answer "no, he is a police cop" to make very clear that he is with the "ordinary" police.



In most cases "police cop" will be very redundant and native speakers wouldn't use the term.






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  • In Britain, a non-military police officer is a civilian police officer (or "cop" etc).

    – Michael Harvey
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'Police cop' used as a noun to denote a police officer would be an example of 'redundancy' (saying or writing the same thing twice - a 'cop' is a police officer, so 'a police cop' means 'a police police officer') like e.g. "navy sailor" or "air force airman" and would not be used by native speakers. However it is not grammatically wrong, just as 'police car' or 'police building' are not 'grammatically' wrong. One way that "police cop" would not be redundant would be if it referred to a specialised police officer whose job was to detect wrongdoing by other police officers. In English usage, redundancy is usually defined as the use of two or more words that say the same thing, but we also use the term to refer to any expression in which a modifier’s meaning is contained in the word it modifies.



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    I've heard police cop used informally to refer to people who work in Internal Affairs. (In other words, people who police the police.)

    – Jason Bassford
    Dec 23 '18 at 14:04






  • 2





    Quis custodiet, eh?

    – Michael Harvey
    Dec 23 '18 at 14:23











  • I should note that in British usage, any member of the Royal Navy or the Royal Air Force is known as a 'sailor' or 'airman/airwoman' respectively, even if their duties do not involve sailing in ships or flying in planes.

    – Michael Harvey
    Dec 23 '18 at 14:49











  • Since anybody who works on a seagoing vessel is a sailor ...

    – Joshua
    Dec 23 '18 at 16:08






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    I was noting the redundancy of "navy sailor". There are parts of the British navy (and others, I think) that exist on land; dockyards, air bases, depots of various kinds, and so on, and an enlisted person or officer of that navy is still a "sailor" even if he or she never goes in a ship or boat.

    – Michael Harvey
    Dec 23 '18 at 16:22
















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'Police cop' used as a noun to denote a police officer would be an example of 'redundancy' (saying or writing the same thing twice - a 'cop' is a police officer, so 'a police cop' means 'a police police officer') like e.g. "navy sailor" or "air force airman" and would not be used by native speakers. However it is not grammatically wrong, just as 'police car' or 'police building' are not 'grammatically' wrong. One way that "police cop" would not be redundant would be if it referred to a specialised police officer whose job was to detect wrongdoing by other police officers. In English usage, redundancy is usually defined as the use of two or more words that say the same thing, but we also use the term to refer to any expression in which a modifier’s meaning is contained in the word it modifies.



Redundancies






share|improve this answer





















  • 2





    I've heard police cop used informally to refer to people who work in Internal Affairs. (In other words, people who police the police.)

    – Jason Bassford
    Dec 23 '18 at 14:04






  • 2





    Quis custodiet, eh?

    – Michael Harvey
    Dec 23 '18 at 14:23











  • I should note that in British usage, any member of the Royal Navy or the Royal Air Force is known as a 'sailor' or 'airman/airwoman' respectively, even if their duties do not involve sailing in ships or flying in planes.

    – Michael Harvey
    Dec 23 '18 at 14:49











  • Since anybody who works on a seagoing vessel is a sailor ...

    – Joshua
    Dec 23 '18 at 16:08






  • 1





    I was noting the redundancy of "navy sailor". There are parts of the British navy (and others, I think) that exist on land; dockyards, air bases, depots of various kinds, and so on, and an enlisted person or officer of that navy is still a "sailor" even if he or she never goes in a ship or boat.

    – Michael Harvey
    Dec 23 '18 at 16:22














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'Police cop' used as a noun to denote a police officer would be an example of 'redundancy' (saying or writing the same thing twice - a 'cop' is a police officer, so 'a police cop' means 'a police police officer') like e.g. "navy sailor" or "air force airman" and would not be used by native speakers. However it is not grammatically wrong, just as 'police car' or 'police building' are not 'grammatically' wrong. One way that "police cop" would not be redundant would be if it referred to a specialised police officer whose job was to detect wrongdoing by other police officers. In English usage, redundancy is usually defined as the use of two or more words that say the same thing, but we also use the term to refer to any expression in which a modifier’s meaning is contained in the word it modifies.



Redundancies






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'Police cop' used as a noun to denote a police officer would be an example of 'redundancy' (saying or writing the same thing twice - a 'cop' is a police officer, so 'a police cop' means 'a police police officer') like e.g. "navy sailor" or "air force airman" and would not be used by native speakers. However it is not grammatically wrong, just as 'police car' or 'police building' are not 'grammatically' wrong. One way that "police cop" would not be redundant would be if it referred to a specialised police officer whose job was to detect wrongdoing by other police officers. In English usage, redundancy is usually defined as the use of two or more words that say the same thing, but we also use the term to refer to any expression in which a modifier’s meaning is contained in the word it modifies.



Redundancies







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  • 2





    I've heard police cop used informally to refer to people who work in Internal Affairs. (In other words, people who police the police.)

    – Jason Bassford
    Dec 23 '18 at 14:04






  • 2





    Quis custodiet, eh?

    – Michael Harvey
    Dec 23 '18 at 14:23











  • I should note that in British usage, any member of the Royal Navy or the Royal Air Force is known as a 'sailor' or 'airman/airwoman' respectively, even if their duties do not involve sailing in ships or flying in planes.

    – Michael Harvey
    Dec 23 '18 at 14:49











  • Since anybody who works on a seagoing vessel is a sailor ...

    – Joshua
    Dec 23 '18 at 16:08






  • 1





    I was noting the redundancy of "navy sailor". There are parts of the British navy (and others, I think) that exist on land; dockyards, air bases, depots of various kinds, and so on, and an enlisted person or officer of that navy is still a "sailor" even if he or she never goes in a ship or boat.

    – Michael Harvey
    Dec 23 '18 at 16:22














  • 2





    I've heard police cop used informally to refer to people who work in Internal Affairs. (In other words, people who police the police.)

    – Jason Bassford
    Dec 23 '18 at 14:04






  • 2





    Quis custodiet, eh?

    – Michael Harvey
    Dec 23 '18 at 14:23











  • I should note that in British usage, any member of the Royal Navy or the Royal Air Force is known as a 'sailor' or 'airman/airwoman' respectively, even if their duties do not involve sailing in ships or flying in planes.

    – Michael Harvey
    Dec 23 '18 at 14:49











  • Since anybody who works on a seagoing vessel is a sailor ...

    – Joshua
    Dec 23 '18 at 16:08






  • 1





    I was noting the redundancy of "navy sailor". There are parts of the British navy (and others, I think) that exist on land; dockyards, air bases, depots of various kinds, and so on, and an enlisted person or officer of that navy is still a "sailor" even if he or she never goes in a ship or boat.

    – Michael Harvey
    Dec 23 '18 at 16:22








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I've heard police cop used informally to refer to people who work in Internal Affairs. (In other words, people who police the police.)

– Jason Bassford
Dec 23 '18 at 14:04





I've heard police cop used informally to refer to people who work in Internal Affairs. (In other words, people who police the police.)

– Jason Bassford
Dec 23 '18 at 14:04




2




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Quis custodiet, eh?

– Michael Harvey
Dec 23 '18 at 14:23





Quis custodiet, eh?

– Michael Harvey
Dec 23 '18 at 14:23













I should note that in British usage, any member of the Royal Navy or the Royal Air Force is known as a 'sailor' or 'airman/airwoman' respectively, even if their duties do not involve sailing in ships or flying in planes.

– Michael Harvey
Dec 23 '18 at 14:49





I should note that in British usage, any member of the Royal Navy or the Royal Air Force is known as a 'sailor' or 'airman/airwoman' respectively, even if their duties do not involve sailing in ships or flying in planes.

– Michael Harvey
Dec 23 '18 at 14:49













Since anybody who works on a seagoing vessel is a sailor ...

– Joshua
Dec 23 '18 at 16:08





Since anybody who works on a seagoing vessel is a sailor ...

– Joshua
Dec 23 '18 at 16:08




1




1





I was noting the redundancy of "navy sailor". There are parts of the British navy (and others, I think) that exist on land; dockyards, air bases, depots of various kinds, and so on, and an enlisted person or officer of that navy is still a "sailor" even if he or she never goes in a ship or boat.

– Michael Harvey
Dec 23 '18 at 16:22





I was noting the redundancy of "navy sailor". There are parts of the British navy (and others, I think) that exist on land; dockyards, air bases, depots of various kinds, and so on, and an enlisted person or officer of that navy is still a "sailor" even if he or she never goes in a ship or boat.

– Michael Harvey
Dec 23 '18 at 16:22













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"Police cop" is incorrect.



List of alternatives:

"The police" is alright.

"The Police" is a good rock band.

"policeman"

"police officer"

"cop". Informal usage.






share|improve this answer



















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    While you're on the subject, you may be interested in the huge variety of words and terms used to refer to the police: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_police-related_slang_terms

    – Ronald Sole
    Dec 23 '18 at 12:33


















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"Police cop" is incorrect.



List of alternatives:

"The police" is alright.

"The Police" is a good rock band.

"policeman"

"police officer"

"cop". Informal usage.






share|improve this answer



















  • 2





    While you're on the subject, you may be interested in the huge variety of words and terms used to refer to the police: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_police-related_slang_terms

    – Ronald Sole
    Dec 23 '18 at 12:33
















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"Police cop" is incorrect.



List of alternatives:

"The police" is alright.

"The Police" is a good rock band.

"policeman"

"police officer"

"cop". Informal usage.






share|improve this answer













"Police cop" is incorrect.



List of alternatives:

"The police" is alright.

"The Police" is a good rock band.

"policeman"

"police officer"

"cop". Informal usage.







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    While you're on the subject, you may be interested in the huge variety of words and terms used to refer to the police: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_police-related_slang_terms

    – Ronald Sole
    Dec 23 '18 at 12:33
















  • 2





    While you're on the subject, you may be interested in the huge variety of words and terms used to refer to the police: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_police-related_slang_terms

    – Ronald Sole
    Dec 23 '18 at 12:33










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While you're on the subject, you may be interested in the huge variety of words and terms used to refer to the police: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_police-related_slang_terms

– Ronald Sole
Dec 23 '18 at 12:33







While you're on the subject, you may be interested in the huge variety of words and terms used to refer to the police: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_police-related_slang_terms

– Ronald Sole
Dec 23 '18 at 12:33













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It would be very rare that it is right to use this. An example: There is "military police" which handles police situations in the army. You might ask "is this man with the military police" and someone could then answer "no, he is a police cop" to make very clear that he is with the "ordinary" police.



In most cases "police cop" will be very redundant and native speakers wouldn't use the term.






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  • In Britain, a non-military police officer is a civilian police officer (or "cop" etc).

    – Michael Harvey
    Dec 23 '18 at 16:24
















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It would be very rare that it is right to use this. An example: There is "military police" which handles police situations in the army. You might ask "is this man with the military police" and someone could then answer "no, he is a police cop" to make very clear that he is with the "ordinary" police.



In most cases "police cop" will be very redundant and native speakers wouldn't use the term.






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  • In Britain, a non-military police officer is a civilian police officer (or "cop" etc).

    – Michael Harvey
    Dec 23 '18 at 16:24














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It would be very rare that it is right to use this. An example: There is "military police" which handles police situations in the army. You might ask "is this man with the military police" and someone could then answer "no, he is a police cop" to make very clear that he is with the "ordinary" police.



In most cases "police cop" will be very redundant and native speakers wouldn't use the term.






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It would be very rare that it is right to use this. An example: There is "military police" which handles police situations in the army. You might ask "is this man with the military police" and someone could then answer "no, he is a police cop" to make very clear that he is with the "ordinary" police.



In most cases "police cop" will be very redundant and native speakers wouldn't use the term.







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  • In Britain, a non-military police officer is a civilian police officer (or "cop" etc).

    – Michael Harvey
    Dec 23 '18 at 16:24



















  • In Britain, a non-military police officer is a civilian police officer (or "cop" etc).

    – Michael Harvey
    Dec 23 '18 at 16:24

















In Britain, a non-military police officer is a civilian police officer (or "cop" etc).

– Michael Harvey
Dec 23 '18 at 16:24





In Britain, a non-military police officer is a civilian police officer (or "cop" etc).

– Michael Harvey
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