How close is the expected length of Huffman coding and entropy?












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If I want to use entropy as an approximation for the expected length of Huffman coding, how good is the approximation? I know the following identity:



$H(X)leq L(X)< H(X)+1 $



where expected length is:



$L(X)= sum_i p_il_i$



and entropy is:



$H(X)= sum_i p_ilog_2(1/p_i)$



But it's not tight enough, or in other words, helpful enough in some cases. Is there a way to approximate the residual using $p_i$, like what we do in Taylor series?










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If I want to use entropy as an approximation for the expected length of Huffman coding, how good is the approximation? I know the following identity:



$H(X)leq L(X)< H(X)+1 $



where expected length is:



$L(X)= sum_i p_il_i$



and entropy is:



$H(X)= sum_i p_ilog_2(1/p_i)$



But it's not tight enough, or in other words, helpful enough in some cases. Is there a way to approximate the residual using $p_i$, like what we do in Taylor series?










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    "But it's not tight enough". Well, in some sense it is. Take for example a Bernoulli variable with $p approx 0$...
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$begingroup$


If I want to use entropy as an approximation for the expected length of Huffman coding, how good is the approximation? I know the following identity:



$H(X)leq L(X)< H(X)+1 $



where expected length is:



$L(X)= sum_i p_il_i$



and entropy is:



$H(X)= sum_i p_ilog_2(1/p_i)$



But it's not tight enough, or in other words, helpful enough in some cases. Is there a way to approximate the residual using $p_i$, like what we do in Taylor series?










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If I want to use entropy as an approximation for the expected length of Huffman coding, how good is the approximation? I know the following identity:



$H(X)leq L(X)< H(X)+1 $



where expected length is:



$L(X)= sum_i p_il_i$



and entropy is:



$H(X)= sum_i p_ilog_2(1/p_i)$



But it's not tight enough, or in other words, helpful enough in some cases. Is there a way to approximate the residual using $p_i$, like what we do in Taylor series?







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    $begingroup$
    "But it's not tight enough". Well, in some sense it is. Take for example a Bernoulli variable with $p approx 0$...
    $endgroup$
    – leonbloy
    Jan 6 at 14:09














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    $begingroup$
    "But it's not tight enough". Well, in some sense it is. Take for example a Bernoulli variable with $p approx 0$...
    $endgroup$
    – leonbloy
    Jan 6 at 14:09








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$begingroup$
"But it's not tight enough". Well, in some sense it is. Take for example a Bernoulli variable with $p approx 0$...
$endgroup$
– leonbloy
Jan 6 at 14:09




$begingroup$
"But it's not tight enough". Well, in some sense it is. Take for example a Bernoulli variable with $p approx 0$...
$endgroup$
– leonbloy
Jan 6 at 14:09










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