If a function $f(x)$ is Riemann integrable on $[a,b]$, is $f(x)$ bounded on $[a,b]$?
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Most statements regarding Riemann integrals (at least the ones that I have encountered) begin with the statement "for $f(x)$ bounded on $[a,b]$." I am wondering if Riemann integrability implies boundedness. I think that this has to be the case, but I am not sure. If Riemann integrability does imply boundedness, are improper integrals considered Riemann integrals? I would think that improper integrals wouldn't be Riemann integrals since improper integrals are allowed to be equal to $+infty$ or $-infty$. Or are improper integrals that are not equal to $infty$ considered Riemann integrals?
I am confused.
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Most statements regarding Riemann integrals (at least the ones that I have encountered) begin with the statement "for $f(x)$ bounded on $[a,b]$." I am wondering if Riemann integrability implies boundedness. I think that this has to be the case, but I am not sure. If Riemann integrability does imply boundedness, are improper integrals considered Riemann integrals? I would think that improper integrals wouldn't be Riemann integrals since improper integrals are allowed to be equal to $+infty$ or $-infty$. Or are improper integrals that are not equal to $infty$ considered Riemann integrals?
I am confused.
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By definition, any Riemann integrable function is bounded. Improper integral are considered as limit of Riemann integrable functions.
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– user99914
Dec 17 '13 at 6:08
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So improper integrals aren't Riemann integrals? Similar as to how limits of sequences are not sequences?
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– Quantum AMERICCINO
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@user97554 : if $f$ is unbounded on Ron $[a,b]$, then you can construct Riemann sums that either go to plus infinity or to minus infinity, with the maximum width of the subintervals going to zero, so $f$ is not Riemann integrable on $[a,b]$.
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– Stefan Smith
Dec 17 '13 at 7:15
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Most statements regarding Riemann integrals (at least the ones that I have encountered) begin with the statement "for $f(x)$ bounded on $[a,b]$." I am wondering if Riemann integrability implies boundedness. I think that this has to be the case, but I am not sure. If Riemann integrability does imply boundedness, are improper integrals considered Riemann integrals? I would think that improper integrals wouldn't be Riemann integrals since improper integrals are allowed to be equal to $+infty$ or $-infty$. Or are improper integrals that are not equal to $infty$ considered Riemann integrals?
I am confused.
real-analysis integration bounded-variation
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Most statements regarding Riemann integrals (at least the ones that I have encountered) begin with the statement "for $f(x)$ bounded on $[a,b]$." I am wondering if Riemann integrability implies boundedness. I think that this has to be the case, but I am not sure. If Riemann integrability does imply boundedness, are improper integrals considered Riemann integrals? I would think that improper integrals wouldn't be Riemann integrals since improper integrals are allowed to be equal to $+infty$ or $-infty$. Or are improper integrals that are not equal to $infty$ considered Riemann integrals?
I am confused.
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By definition, any Riemann integrable function is bounded. Improper integral are considered as limit of Riemann integrable functions.
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– user99914
Dec 17 '13 at 6:08
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So improper integrals aren't Riemann integrals? Similar as to how limits of sequences are not sequences?
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– Quantum AMERICCINO
Dec 17 '13 at 6:09
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@user97554 : if $f$ is unbounded on Ron $[a,b]$, then you can construct Riemann sums that either go to plus infinity or to minus infinity, with the maximum width of the subintervals going to zero, so $f$ is not Riemann integrable on $[a,b]$.
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– Stefan Smith
Dec 17 '13 at 7:15
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By definition, any Riemann integrable function is bounded. Improper integral are considered as limit of Riemann integrable functions.
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– user99914
Dec 17 '13 at 6:08
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So improper integrals aren't Riemann integrals? Similar as to how limits of sequences are not sequences?
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– Quantum AMERICCINO
Dec 17 '13 at 6:09
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@user97554 : if $f$ is unbounded on Ron $[a,b]$, then you can construct Riemann sums that either go to plus infinity or to minus infinity, with the maximum width of the subintervals going to zero, so $f$ is not Riemann integrable on $[a,b]$.
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– Stefan Smith
Dec 17 '13 at 7:15
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By definition, any Riemann integrable function is bounded. Improper integral are considered as limit of Riemann integrable functions.
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– user99914
Dec 17 '13 at 6:08
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By definition, any Riemann integrable function is bounded. Improper integral are considered as limit of Riemann integrable functions.
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– user99914
Dec 17 '13 at 6:08
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So improper integrals aren't Riemann integrals? Similar as to how limits of sequences are not sequences?
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– Quantum AMERICCINO
Dec 17 '13 at 6:09
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So improper integrals aren't Riemann integrals? Similar as to how limits of sequences are not sequences?
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– Quantum AMERICCINO
Dec 17 '13 at 6:09
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@user97554 : if $f$ is unbounded on Ron $[a,b]$, then you can construct Riemann sums that either go to plus infinity or to minus infinity, with the maximum width of the subintervals going to zero, so $f$ is not Riemann integrable on $[a,b]$.
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– Stefan Smith
Dec 17 '13 at 7:15
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@user97554 : if $f$ is unbounded on Ron $[a,b]$, then you can construct Riemann sums that either go to plus infinity or to minus infinity, with the maximum width of the subintervals going to zero, so $f$ is not Riemann integrable on $[a,b]$.
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– Stefan Smith
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Recall that a function is supposed to be (properly) Riemann integrable if for all $epsilon>0$ there exists a partition such that $U-L<epsilon$. Suppose $f$ becomes unbounded (say, unbounded above) near the point $x_0$. How are we to make sense of the upper sum $U$ when one of the intervals in the partition (the one containing $x_0$) has no supremum? The definition only makes sense when $f$ is bounded.
Nonetheless, if $f$ becomes unbounded near $x_0$, it still may be (improperly) Riemann integrable on an interval containing $x_0$. This is because we define the improper integral to be the limit of the proper integrals over the regions where we delete an open neighborhood of $x_0$, as we let that neighborhood get smaller and smaller.
If someone describes a function as "Riemann integrable" on a set $S$, it may be ambiguous if they mean properly or improperly (technically they should mean the former), and one has to infer from context whether they are implying that the function is bounded.
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There is a minor ambiguity in the term "Riemann integral": it tends to be used both for Riemann's original formulation -- which involves tagged partitions and requires convergence in a very strong sense: uniformly in the mesh (or norm) $||mathcal{P}||$ of the partition $mathcal{P}$ -- and also G. Darboux's later simplification in terms of upper and lower sums and upper and lower integrals, which is for most purposes technically easier to work with and thus is the one which is carefully developed in most undergraduate texts.
The ambiguity can be justified by the fact the Riemann and Darboux theories give different descriptions of what ultimately turns out to be the same linear functional: a function $f: [a,b] rightarrow mathbb{R}$ is Riemann integrable if and only if it is Darboux integrable (the hard part of this is to show that Darboux integrable functions are Riemann integrable) and when these conditions hold the associated real number $int_a^b f$ is the same. For a careful exposition of the Darboux and Riemann integrals including a comparison between the two, see Chapter 8 of these notes.
I bring up the distinction between Darboux and Riemann because it is relevant to your question of boundedness of integral functions, and because of the two helpful answers already left to this question, one addresses the Darboux case and the other the Riemann case. Either way though the following simple observation lies at the heart of the matter.
For $f: [a,b] rightarrow mathbb{R}$, the following are equivalent:
(i) $f$ is bounded above (respectively, bounded below).
(ii) For any partition $mathcal{P} = {a= x_0 < x_1 < ldots < x_{n-1} < x_n = b}$, the restriction of $f$ to each subinterval $[x_i,x_{i+1}]$ is bounded above (respectively, bounded below).
So if $f$ is unbounded above, then for any partition $mathcal{P}$, there is at least one subinterval $[x_i,x_{i+1}]$ on which $f$ is unbounded above, hence the upper sum $mathcal{U}(f,mathcal{P})$ does not exist as a real number, so we can't even define the Darboux integral. Alternately, if we want to work in the extended real numbers, we would say that if $f$ is unbounded above, $mathcal{U}(f,mathcal{P}) = infty$. Similarly, if $f$ is unbounded below, $mathcal{L}(f,mathcal{P}) = -infty$ (c.f. Proposition 8.2 in the linked notes). This means: if $f$ is unbounded above then $overline{int}_a^b f = infty$, and if $f$ is unbounded below then $underline{int}_a^b f = -infty$. With this extended definition we would define a function to be Darboux integrable if and only if its upper and lower integrals are both finite and are equal, so we see that Darboux integrable functions are bounded.
For the Riemann integral there is a similar argument: if $f$ is unbounded above, then no matter what partition we choose, then for any $M > 0$ there will be a tagging $tau$ -- i.e., a choice of sample point $x_i^* in [x_i,x_{i+1}]$ such that the Riemann sum $R(f,mathcal{P},tau) = sum_{i=0}^{n-1} f(x_i^*)(x_{i+1}-x_i)$ is greater than $M$. This is a nice exercise: the idea is to use the above observation and choose one subinterval $[x_i,x_{i+1}]$ on which $f$ is unbounded above, choose the sample points in the other subintervals arbitrarily, and then choose $x_i^* in [x_i,x_{i+1}]$ so that $f(x_i^*)$ is large enough to make the entire Riemann sum come out greater than $M$. Thus we see that if $f$ is unbounded above it cannot be Riemann integrable (but it's definitely a result, not a definition, in this case), and similarly if $f$ is unbounded below.
To address the rest of your question: yes, when one writes "Riemann integrable" one generally means to neglect the case of improper Riemann integrals, which of course can be finite even for some unbounded functions. This is true notwithstanding the fact that the same notation $int_a^b f$ is used for Riemann integrals and improper Riemann integrals. Generally, anyway: in any particular case you should check to confirm that the terminology is being used in this way.
Added: The class of Riemann-Darboux integrable functions was characterized by Lebesgue (though my colleague Roy Smith has shown me a passage in Riemann's work showing that he had the result as well).
Theorem (Lebesgue Criterion) For a function $f: [a,b] rightarrow mathbb{R}$, the following are equivalent:
(i) $f$ is Riemann integrable.
(ii) $f$ is bounded, and the set of discontinuities of $f$ has measure zero.
Since this result was first published in the 20th century, one can correctly infer that it is not really needed in the development of the Riemann integral. From a pedagogical perspective, I would rather have students learn to use less heavy tools with more dexterity. Nevertheless I give a proof in $S$ 8.5 of my notes which does not use any measure theory or even the theory of countable/uncountable sets. (The proof given there is not due to me; it is taken from notes of A.R. Schep.)
Note also that another answer to this question currently contains a false statement of this result. The characteristic function of the classical middle thirds Cantor set shows that "measure zero" cannot be replaced with "countable".
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Pete, on the topic of equivalent formulations, do you know of any treatments of the generalized Riemann integral (Henstock-Kurzweil) that explain precisely how Denjoy's definition went?
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– Andrés E. Caicedo
Dec 17 '13 at 7:13
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@Andres: I think this is explained in Russell Gordon's GSM text on the subject (which I own but have not yet fully digested; in some sense I shouldn't be reading it!).
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– Pete L. Clark
Dec 17 '13 at 7:16
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Ah, of course! Thank you. I'll look for it tomorrow.
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– Andrés E. Caicedo
Dec 17 '13 at 7:19
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Pete, Riemann's works are available here. Any chance you remember where to find Riemann's proof of the Lebesgue criterion? (I am writing some notes myself, and it would be neat to include the passage.) (Sorry for the bother.)
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– Andrés E. Caicedo
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@Andres: No, I don't, but please feel free to write to Roy Smith. (He is active on this site under the name...roy smith.) He'd be happy to hear from you, I'm sure.
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– Pete L. Clark
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Yes, a Riemann-integral must be bounded; if not, then, for partition width $||P||$ , consider a point $x$ with $f(x)> frac {M}{||P||} $ (which will exist for any $M$, since f is , by assumption, unbounded). Now, since $f$ is unbounded, $M rightarrow infty$ , so the Riemann sum associated to the partition length $||P||$ will be bounded below by $$||P||(frac {M}{||P||})=M rightarrow infty$$. Since this is true for any partition length $||P||$ then the Riemann sum will diverge.
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Recall that a function is supposed to be (properly) Riemann integrable if for all $epsilon>0$ there exists a partition such that $U-L<epsilon$. Suppose $f$ becomes unbounded (say, unbounded above) near the point $x_0$. How are we to make sense of the upper sum $U$ when one of the intervals in the partition (the one containing $x_0$) has no supremum? The definition only makes sense when $f$ is bounded.
Nonetheless, if $f$ becomes unbounded near $x_0$, it still may be (improperly) Riemann integrable on an interval containing $x_0$. This is because we define the improper integral to be the limit of the proper integrals over the regions where we delete an open neighborhood of $x_0$, as we let that neighborhood get smaller and smaller.
If someone describes a function as "Riemann integrable" on a set $S$, it may be ambiguous if they mean properly or improperly (technically they should mean the former), and one has to infer from context whether they are implying that the function is bounded.
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Recall that a function is supposed to be (properly) Riemann integrable if for all $epsilon>0$ there exists a partition such that $U-L<epsilon$. Suppose $f$ becomes unbounded (say, unbounded above) near the point $x_0$. How are we to make sense of the upper sum $U$ when one of the intervals in the partition (the one containing $x_0$) has no supremum? The definition only makes sense when $f$ is bounded.
Nonetheless, if $f$ becomes unbounded near $x_0$, it still may be (improperly) Riemann integrable on an interval containing $x_0$. This is because we define the improper integral to be the limit of the proper integrals over the regions where we delete an open neighborhood of $x_0$, as we let that neighborhood get smaller and smaller.
If someone describes a function as "Riemann integrable" on a set $S$, it may be ambiguous if they mean properly or improperly (technically they should mean the former), and one has to infer from context whether they are implying that the function is bounded.
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Recall that a function is supposed to be (properly) Riemann integrable if for all $epsilon>0$ there exists a partition such that $U-L<epsilon$. Suppose $f$ becomes unbounded (say, unbounded above) near the point $x_0$. How are we to make sense of the upper sum $U$ when one of the intervals in the partition (the one containing $x_0$) has no supremum? The definition only makes sense when $f$ is bounded.
Nonetheless, if $f$ becomes unbounded near $x_0$, it still may be (improperly) Riemann integrable on an interval containing $x_0$. This is because we define the improper integral to be the limit of the proper integrals over the regions where we delete an open neighborhood of $x_0$, as we let that neighborhood get smaller and smaller.
If someone describes a function as "Riemann integrable" on a set $S$, it may be ambiguous if they mean properly or improperly (technically they should mean the former), and one has to infer from context whether they are implying that the function is bounded.
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Recall that a function is supposed to be (properly) Riemann integrable if for all $epsilon>0$ there exists a partition such that $U-L<epsilon$. Suppose $f$ becomes unbounded (say, unbounded above) near the point $x_0$. How are we to make sense of the upper sum $U$ when one of the intervals in the partition (the one containing $x_0$) has no supremum? The definition only makes sense when $f$ is bounded.
Nonetheless, if $f$ becomes unbounded near $x_0$, it still may be (improperly) Riemann integrable on an interval containing $x_0$. This is because we define the improper integral to be the limit of the proper integrals over the regions where we delete an open neighborhood of $x_0$, as we let that neighborhood get smaller and smaller.
If someone describes a function as "Riemann integrable" on a set $S$, it may be ambiguous if they mean properly or improperly (technically they should mean the former), and one has to infer from context whether they are implying that the function is bounded.
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There is a minor ambiguity in the term "Riemann integral": it tends to be used both for Riemann's original formulation -- which involves tagged partitions and requires convergence in a very strong sense: uniformly in the mesh (or norm) $||mathcal{P}||$ of the partition $mathcal{P}$ -- and also G. Darboux's later simplification in terms of upper and lower sums and upper and lower integrals, which is for most purposes technically easier to work with and thus is the one which is carefully developed in most undergraduate texts.
The ambiguity can be justified by the fact the Riemann and Darboux theories give different descriptions of what ultimately turns out to be the same linear functional: a function $f: [a,b] rightarrow mathbb{R}$ is Riemann integrable if and only if it is Darboux integrable (the hard part of this is to show that Darboux integrable functions are Riemann integrable) and when these conditions hold the associated real number $int_a^b f$ is the same. For a careful exposition of the Darboux and Riemann integrals including a comparison between the two, see Chapter 8 of these notes.
I bring up the distinction between Darboux and Riemann because it is relevant to your question of boundedness of integral functions, and because of the two helpful answers already left to this question, one addresses the Darboux case and the other the Riemann case. Either way though the following simple observation lies at the heart of the matter.
For $f: [a,b] rightarrow mathbb{R}$, the following are equivalent:
(i) $f$ is bounded above (respectively, bounded below).
(ii) For any partition $mathcal{P} = {a= x_0 < x_1 < ldots < x_{n-1} < x_n = b}$, the restriction of $f$ to each subinterval $[x_i,x_{i+1}]$ is bounded above (respectively, bounded below).
So if $f$ is unbounded above, then for any partition $mathcal{P}$, there is at least one subinterval $[x_i,x_{i+1}]$ on which $f$ is unbounded above, hence the upper sum $mathcal{U}(f,mathcal{P})$ does not exist as a real number, so we can't even define the Darboux integral. Alternately, if we want to work in the extended real numbers, we would say that if $f$ is unbounded above, $mathcal{U}(f,mathcal{P}) = infty$. Similarly, if $f$ is unbounded below, $mathcal{L}(f,mathcal{P}) = -infty$ (c.f. Proposition 8.2 in the linked notes). This means: if $f$ is unbounded above then $overline{int}_a^b f = infty$, and if $f$ is unbounded below then $underline{int}_a^b f = -infty$. With this extended definition we would define a function to be Darboux integrable if and only if its upper and lower integrals are both finite and are equal, so we see that Darboux integrable functions are bounded.
For the Riemann integral there is a similar argument: if $f$ is unbounded above, then no matter what partition we choose, then for any $M > 0$ there will be a tagging $tau$ -- i.e., a choice of sample point $x_i^* in [x_i,x_{i+1}]$ such that the Riemann sum $R(f,mathcal{P},tau) = sum_{i=0}^{n-1} f(x_i^*)(x_{i+1}-x_i)$ is greater than $M$. This is a nice exercise: the idea is to use the above observation and choose one subinterval $[x_i,x_{i+1}]$ on which $f$ is unbounded above, choose the sample points in the other subintervals arbitrarily, and then choose $x_i^* in [x_i,x_{i+1}]$ so that $f(x_i^*)$ is large enough to make the entire Riemann sum come out greater than $M$. Thus we see that if $f$ is unbounded above it cannot be Riemann integrable (but it's definitely a result, not a definition, in this case), and similarly if $f$ is unbounded below.
To address the rest of your question: yes, when one writes "Riemann integrable" one generally means to neglect the case of improper Riemann integrals, which of course can be finite even for some unbounded functions. This is true notwithstanding the fact that the same notation $int_a^b f$ is used for Riemann integrals and improper Riemann integrals. Generally, anyway: in any particular case you should check to confirm that the terminology is being used in this way.
Added: The class of Riemann-Darboux integrable functions was characterized by Lebesgue (though my colleague Roy Smith has shown me a passage in Riemann's work showing that he had the result as well).
Theorem (Lebesgue Criterion) For a function $f: [a,b] rightarrow mathbb{R}$, the following are equivalent:
(i) $f$ is Riemann integrable.
(ii) $f$ is bounded, and the set of discontinuities of $f$ has measure zero.
Since this result was first published in the 20th century, one can correctly infer that it is not really needed in the development of the Riemann integral. From a pedagogical perspective, I would rather have students learn to use less heavy tools with more dexterity. Nevertheless I give a proof in $S$ 8.5 of my notes which does not use any measure theory or even the theory of countable/uncountable sets. (The proof given there is not due to me; it is taken from notes of A.R. Schep.)
Note also that another answer to this question currently contains a false statement of this result. The characteristic function of the classical middle thirds Cantor set shows that "measure zero" cannot be replaced with "countable".
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Pete, on the topic of equivalent formulations, do you know of any treatments of the generalized Riemann integral (Henstock-Kurzweil) that explain precisely how Denjoy's definition went?
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– Andrés E. Caicedo
Dec 17 '13 at 7:13
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@Andres: I think this is explained in Russell Gordon's GSM text on the subject (which I own but have not yet fully digested; in some sense I shouldn't be reading it!).
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– Pete L. Clark
Dec 17 '13 at 7:16
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Ah, of course! Thank you. I'll look for it tomorrow.
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– Andrés E. Caicedo
Dec 17 '13 at 7:19
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Pete, Riemann's works are available here. Any chance you remember where to find Riemann's proof of the Lebesgue criterion? (I am writing some notes myself, and it would be neat to include the passage.) (Sorry for the bother.)
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– Andrés E. Caicedo
Dec 17 '13 at 7:50
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@Andres: No, I don't, but please feel free to write to Roy Smith. (He is active on this site under the name...roy smith.) He'd be happy to hear from you, I'm sure.
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– Pete L. Clark
Dec 17 '13 at 7:53
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There is a minor ambiguity in the term "Riemann integral": it tends to be used both for Riemann's original formulation -- which involves tagged partitions and requires convergence in a very strong sense: uniformly in the mesh (or norm) $||mathcal{P}||$ of the partition $mathcal{P}$ -- and also G. Darboux's later simplification in terms of upper and lower sums and upper and lower integrals, which is for most purposes technically easier to work with and thus is the one which is carefully developed in most undergraduate texts.
The ambiguity can be justified by the fact the Riemann and Darboux theories give different descriptions of what ultimately turns out to be the same linear functional: a function $f: [a,b] rightarrow mathbb{R}$ is Riemann integrable if and only if it is Darboux integrable (the hard part of this is to show that Darboux integrable functions are Riemann integrable) and when these conditions hold the associated real number $int_a^b f$ is the same. For a careful exposition of the Darboux and Riemann integrals including a comparison between the two, see Chapter 8 of these notes.
I bring up the distinction between Darboux and Riemann because it is relevant to your question of boundedness of integral functions, and because of the two helpful answers already left to this question, one addresses the Darboux case and the other the Riemann case. Either way though the following simple observation lies at the heart of the matter.
For $f: [a,b] rightarrow mathbb{R}$, the following are equivalent:
(i) $f$ is bounded above (respectively, bounded below).
(ii) For any partition $mathcal{P} = {a= x_0 < x_1 < ldots < x_{n-1} < x_n = b}$, the restriction of $f$ to each subinterval $[x_i,x_{i+1}]$ is bounded above (respectively, bounded below).
So if $f$ is unbounded above, then for any partition $mathcal{P}$, there is at least one subinterval $[x_i,x_{i+1}]$ on which $f$ is unbounded above, hence the upper sum $mathcal{U}(f,mathcal{P})$ does not exist as a real number, so we can't even define the Darboux integral. Alternately, if we want to work in the extended real numbers, we would say that if $f$ is unbounded above, $mathcal{U}(f,mathcal{P}) = infty$. Similarly, if $f$ is unbounded below, $mathcal{L}(f,mathcal{P}) = -infty$ (c.f. Proposition 8.2 in the linked notes). This means: if $f$ is unbounded above then $overline{int}_a^b f = infty$, and if $f$ is unbounded below then $underline{int}_a^b f = -infty$. With this extended definition we would define a function to be Darboux integrable if and only if its upper and lower integrals are both finite and are equal, so we see that Darboux integrable functions are bounded.
For the Riemann integral there is a similar argument: if $f$ is unbounded above, then no matter what partition we choose, then for any $M > 0$ there will be a tagging $tau$ -- i.e., a choice of sample point $x_i^* in [x_i,x_{i+1}]$ such that the Riemann sum $R(f,mathcal{P},tau) = sum_{i=0}^{n-1} f(x_i^*)(x_{i+1}-x_i)$ is greater than $M$. This is a nice exercise: the idea is to use the above observation and choose one subinterval $[x_i,x_{i+1}]$ on which $f$ is unbounded above, choose the sample points in the other subintervals arbitrarily, and then choose $x_i^* in [x_i,x_{i+1}]$ so that $f(x_i^*)$ is large enough to make the entire Riemann sum come out greater than $M$. Thus we see that if $f$ is unbounded above it cannot be Riemann integrable (but it's definitely a result, not a definition, in this case), and similarly if $f$ is unbounded below.
To address the rest of your question: yes, when one writes "Riemann integrable" one generally means to neglect the case of improper Riemann integrals, which of course can be finite even for some unbounded functions. This is true notwithstanding the fact that the same notation $int_a^b f$ is used for Riemann integrals and improper Riemann integrals. Generally, anyway: in any particular case you should check to confirm that the terminology is being used in this way.
Added: The class of Riemann-Darboux integrable functions was characterized by Lebesgue (though my colleague Roy Smith has shown me a passage in Riemann's work showing that he had the result as well).
Theorem (Lebesgue Criterion) For a function $f: [a,b] rightarrow mathbb{R}$, the following are equivalent:
(i) $f$ is Riemann integrable.
(ii) $f$ is bounded, and the set of discontinuities of $f$ has measure zero.
Since this result was first published in the 20th century, one can correctly infer that it is not really needed in the development of the Riemann integral. From a pedagogical perspective, I would rather have students learn to use less heavy tools with more dexterity. Nevertheless I give a proof in $S$ 8.5 of my notes which does not use any measure theory or even the theory of countable/uncountable sets. (The proof given there is not due to me; it is taken from notes of A.R. Schep.)
Note also that another answer to this question currently contains a false statement of this result. The characteristic function of the classical middle thirds Cantor set shows that "measure zero" cannot be replaced with "countable".
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Pete, on the topic of equivalent formulations, do you know of any treatments of the generalized Riemann integral (Henstock-Kurzweil) that explain precisely how Denjoy's definition went?
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– Andrés E. Caicedo
Dec 17 '13 at 7:13
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@Andres: I think this is explained in Russell Gordon's GSM text on the subject (which I own but have not yet fully digested; in some sense I shouldn't be reading it!).
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– Pete L. Clark
Dec 17 '13 at 7:16
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Ah, of course! Thank you. I'll look for it tomorrow.
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– Andrés E. Caicedo
Dec 17 '13 at 7:19
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Pete, Riemann's works are available here. Any chance you remember where to find Riemann's proof of the Lebesgue criterion? (I am writing some notes myself, and it would be neat to include the passage.) (Sorry for the bother.)
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– Andrés E. Caicedo
Dec 17 '13 at 7:50
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@Andres: No, I don't, but please feel free to write to Roy Smith. (He is active on this site under the name...roy smith.) He'd be happy to hear from you, I'm sure.
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There is a minor ambiguity in the term "Riemann integral": it tends to be used both for Riemann's original formulation -- which involves tagged partitions and requires convergence in a very strong sense: uniformly in the mesh (or norm) $||mathcal{P}||$ of the partition $mathcal{P}$ -- and also G. Darboux's later simplification in terms of upper and lower sums and upper and lower integrals, which is for most purposes technically easier to work with and thus is the one which is carefully developed in most undergraduate texts.
The ambiguity can be justified by the fact the Riemann and Darboux theories give different descriptions of what ultimately turns out to be the same linear functional: a function $f: [a,b] rightarrow mathbb{R}$ is Riemann integrable if and only if it is Darboux integrable (the hard part of this is to show that Darboux integrable functions are Riemann integrable) and when these conditions hold the associated real number $int_a^b f$ is the same. For a careful exposition of the Darboux and Riemann integrals including a comparison between the two, see Chapter 8 of these notes.
I bring up the distinction between Darboux and Riemann because it is relevant to your question of boundedness of integral functions, and because of the two helpful answers already left to this question, one addresses the Darboux case and the other the Riemann case. Either way though the following simple observation lies at the heart of the matter.
For $f: [a,b] rightarrow mathbb{R}$, the following are equivalent:
(i) $f$ is bounded above (respectively, bounded below).
(ii) For any partition $mathcal{P} = {a= x_0 < x_1 < ldots < x_{n-1} < x_n = b}$, the restriction of $f$ to each subinterval $[x_i,x_{i+1}]$ is bounded above (respectively, bounded below).
So if $f$ is unbounded above, then for any partition $mathcal{P}$, there is at least one subinterval $[x_i,x_{i+1}]$ on which $f$ is unbounded above, hence the upper sum $mathcal{U}(f,mathcal{P})$ does not exist as a real number, so we can't even define the Darboux integral. Alternately, if we want to work in the extended real numbers, we would say that if $f$ is unbounded above, $mathcal{U}(f,mathcal{P}) = infty$. Similarly, if $f$ is unbounded below, $mathcal{L}(f,mathcal{P}) = -infty$ (c.f. Proposition 8.2 in the linked notes). This means: if $f$ is unbounded above then $overline{int}_a^b f = infty$, and if $f$ is unbounded below then $underline{int}_a^b f = -infty$. With this extended definition we would define a function to be Darboux integrable if and only if its upper and lower integrals are both finite and are equal, so we see that Darboux integrable functions are bounded.
For the Riemann integral there is a similar argument: if $f$ is unbounded above, then no matter what partition we choose, then for any $M > 0$ there will be a tagging $tau$ -- i.e., a choice of sample point $x_i^* in [x_i,x_{i+1}]$ such that the Riemann sum $R(f,mathcal{P},tau) = sum_{i=0}^{n-1} f(x_i^*)(x_{i+1}-x_i)$ is greater than $M$. This is a nice exercise: the idea is to use the above observation and choose one subinterval $[x_i,x_{i+1}]$ on which $f$ is unbounded above, choose the sample points in the other subintervals arbitrarily, and then choose $x_i^* in [x_i,x_{i+1}]$ so that $f(x_i^*)$ is large enough to make the entire Riemann sum come out greater than $M$. Thus we see that if $f$ is unbounded above it cannot be Riemann integrable (but it's definitely a result, not a definition, in this case), and similarly if $f$ is unbounded below.
To address the rest of your question: yes, when one writes "Riemann integrable" one generally means to neglect the case of improper Riemann integrals, which of course can be finite even for some unbounded functions. This is true notwithstanding the fact that the same notation $int_a^b f$ is used for Riemann integrals and improper Riemann integrals. Generally, anyway: in any particular case you should check to confirm that the terminology is being used in this way.
Added: The class of Riemann-Darboux integrable functions was characterized by Lebesgue (though my colleague Roy Smith has shown me a passage in Riemann's work showing that he had the result as well).
Theorem (Lebesgue Criterion) For a function $f: [a,b] rightarrow mathbb{R}$, the following are equivalent:
(i) $f$ is Riemann integrable.
(ii) $f$ is bounded, and the set of discontinuities of $f$ has measure zero.
Since this result was first published in the 20th century, one can correctly infer that it is not really needed in the development of the Riemann integral. From a pedagogical perspective, I would rather have students learn to use less heavy tools with more dexterity. Nevertheless I give a proof in $S$ 8.5 of my notes which does not use any measure theory or even the theory of countable/uncountable sets. (The proof given there is not due to me; it is taken from notes of A.R. Schep.)
Note also that another answer to this question currently contains a false statement of this result. The characteristic function of the classical middle thirds Cantor set shows that "measure zero" cannot be replaced with "countable".
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There is a minor ambiguity in the term "Riemann integral": it tends to be used both for Riemann's original formulation -- which involves tagged partitions and requires convergence in a very strong sense: uniformly in the mesh (or norm) $||mathcal{P}||$ of the partition $mathcal{P}$ -- and also G. Darboux's later simplification in terms of upper and lower sums and upper and lower integrals, which is for most purposes technically easier to work with and thus is the one which is carefully developed in most undergraduate texts.
The ambiguity can be justified by the fact the Riemann and Darboux theories give different descriptions of what ultimately turns out to be the same linear functional: a function $f: [a,b] rightarrow mathbb{R}$ is Riemann integrable if and only if it is Darboux integrable (the hard part of this is to show that Darboux integrable functions are Riemann integrable) and when these conditions hold the associated real number $int_a^b f$ is the same. For a careful exposition of the Darboux and Riemann integrals including a comparison between the two, see Chapter 8 of these notes.
I bring up the distinction between Darboux and Riemann because it is relevant to your question of boundedness of integral functions, and because of the two helpful answers already left to this question, one addresses the Darboux case and the other the Riemann case. Either way though the following simple observation lies at the heart of the matter.
For $f: [a,b] rightarrow mathbb{R}$, the following are equivalent:
(i) $f$ is bounded above (respectively, bounded below).
(ii) For any partition $mathcal{P} = {a= x_0 < x_1 < ldots < x_{n-1} < x_n = b}$, the restriction of $f$ to each subinterval $[x_i,x_{i+1}]$ is bounded above (respectively, bounded below).
So if $f$ is unbounded above, then for any partition $mathcal{P}$, there is at least one subinterval $[x_i,x_{i+1}]$ on which $f$ is unbounded above, hence the upper sum $mathcal{U}(f,mathcal{P})$ does not exist as a real number, so we can't even define the Darboux integral. Alternately, if we want to work in the extended real numbers, we would say that if $f$ is unbounded above, $mathcal{U}(f,mathcal{P}) = infty$. Similarly, if $f$ is unbounded below, $mathcal{L}(f,mathcal{P}) = -infty$ (c.f. Proposition 8.2 in the linked notes). This means: if $f$ is unbounded above then $overline{int}_a^b f = infty$, and if $f$ is unbounded below then $underline{int}_a^b f = -infty$. With this extended definition we would define a function to be Darboux integrable if and only if its upper and lower integrals are both finite and are equal, so we see that Darboux integrable functions are bounded.
For the Riemann integral there is a similar argument: if $f$ is unbounded above, then no matter what partition we choose, then for any $M > 0$ there will be a tagging $tau$ -- i.e., a choice of sample point $x_i^* in [x_i,x_{i+1}]$ such that the Riemann sum $R(f,mathcal{P},tau) = sum_{i=0}^{n-1} f(x_i^*)(x_{i+1}-x_i)$ is greater than $M$. This is a nice exercise: the idea is to use the above observation and choose one subinterval $[x_i,x_{i+1}]$ on which $f$ is unbounded above, choose the sample points in the other subintervals arbitrarily, and then choose $x_i^* in [x_i,x_{i+1}]$ so that $f(x_i^*)$ is large enough to make the entire Riemann sum come out greater than $M$. Thus we see that if $f$ is unbounded above it cannot be Riemann integrable (but it's definitely a result, not a definition, in this case), and similarly if $f$ is unbounded below.
To address the rest of your question: yes, when one writes "Riemann integrable" one generally means to neglect the case of improper Riemann integrals, which of course can be finite even for some unbounded functions. This is true notwithstanding the fact that the same notation $int_a^b f$ is used for Riemann integrals and improper Riemann integrals. Generally, anyway: in any particular case you should check to confirm that the terminology is being used in this way.
Added: The class of Riemann-Darboux integrable functions was characterized by Lebesgue (though my colleague Roy Smith has shown me a passage in Riemann's work showing that he had the result as well).
Theorem (Lebesgue Criterion) For a function $f: [a,b] rightarrow mathbb{R}$, the following are equivalent:
(i) $f$ is Riemann integrable.
(ii) $f$ is bounded, and the set of discontinuities of $f$ has measure zero.
Since this result was first published in the 20th century, one can correctly infer that it is not really needed in the development of the Riemann integral. From a pedagogical perspective, I would rather have students learn to use less heavy tools with more dexterity. Nevertheless I give a proof in $S$ 8.5 of my notes which does not use any measure theory or even the theory of countable/uncountable sets. (The proof given there is not due to me; it is taken from notes of A.R. Schep.)
Note also that another answer to this question currently contains a false statement of this result. The characteristic function of the classical middle thirds Cantor set shows that "measure zero" cannot be replaced with "countable".
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Pete, on the topic of equivalent formulations, do you know of any treatments of the generalized Riemann integral (Henstock-Kurzweil) that explain precisely how Denjoy's definition went?
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– Andrés E. Caicedo
Dec 17 '13 at 7:13
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@Andres: I think this is explained in Russell Gordon's GSM text on the subject (which I own but have not yet fully digested; in some sense I shouldn't be reading it!).
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– Pete L. Clark
Dec 17 '13 at 7:16
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Ah, of course! Thank you. I'll look for it tomorrow.
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– Andrés E. Caicedo
Dec 17 '13 at 7:19
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Pete, Riemann's works are available here. Any chance you remember where to find Riemann's proof of the Lebesgue criterion? (I am writing some notes myself, and it would be neat to include the passage.) (Sorry for the bother.)
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– Andrés E. Caicedo
Dec 17 '13 at 7:50
1
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@Andres: No, I don't, but please feel free to write to Roy Smith. (He is active on this site under the name...roy smith.) He'd be happy to hear from you, I'm sure.
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– Pete L. Clark
Dec 17 '13 at 7:53
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Pete, on the topic of equivalent formulations, do you know of any treatments of the generalized Riemann integral (Henstock-Kurzweil) that explain precisely how Denjoy's definition went?
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– Andrés E. Caicedo
Dec 17 '13 at 7:13
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@Andres: I think this is explained in Russell Gordon's GSM text on the subject (which I own but have not yet fully digested; in some sense I shouldn't be reading it!).
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– Pete L. Clark
Dec 17 '13 at 7:16
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Ah, of course! Thank you. I'll look for it tomorrow.
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– Andrés E. Caicedo
Dec 17 '13 at 7:19
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Pete, Riemann's works are available here. Any chance you remember where to find Riemann's proof of the Lebesgue criterion? (I am writing some notes myself, and it would be neat to include the passage.) (Sorry for the bother.)
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– Andrés E. Caicedo
Dec 17 '13 at 7:50
1
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@Andres: No, I don't, but please feel free to write to Roy Smith. (He is active on this site under the name...roy smith.) He'd be happy to hear from you, I'm sure.
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– Pete L. Clark
Dec 17 '13 at 7:53
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Pete, on the topic of equivalent formulations, do you know of any treatments of the generalized Riemann integral (Henstock-Kurzweil) that explain precisely how Denjoy's definition went?
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– Andrés E. Caicedo
Dec 17 '13 at 7:13
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Pete, on the topic of equivalent formulations, do you know of any treatments of the generalized Riemann integral (Henstock-Kurzweil) that explain precisely how Denjoy's definition went?
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– Andrés E. Caicedo
Dec 17 '13 at 7:13
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@Andres: I think this is explained in Russell Gordon's GSM text on the subject (which I own but have not yet fully digested; in some sense I shouldn't be reading it!).
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– Pete L. Clark
Dec 17 '13 at 7:16
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@Andres: I think this is explained in Russell Gordon's GSM text on the subject (which I own but have not yet fully digested; in some sense I shouldn't be reading it!).
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– Pete L. Clark
Dec 17 '13 at 7:16
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Ah, of course! Thank you. I'll look for it tomorrow.
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– Andrés E. Caicedo
Dec 17 '13 at 7:19
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Ah, of course! Thank you. I'll look for it tomorrow.
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– Andrés E. Caicedo
Dec 17 '13 at 7:19
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Pete, Riemann's works are available here. Any chance you remember where to find Riemann's proof of the Lebesgue criterion? (I am writing some notes myself, and it would be neat to include the passage.) (Sorry for the bother.)
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– Andrés E. Caicedo
Dec 17 '13 at 7:50
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Pete, Riemann's works are available here. Any chance you remember where to find Riemann's proof of the Lebesgue criterion? (I am writing some notes myself, and it would be neat to include the passage.) (Sorry for the bother.)
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– Andrés E. Caicedo
Dec 17 '13 at 7:50
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@Andres: No, I don't, but please feel free to write to Roy Smith. (He is active on this site under the name...roy smith.) He'd be happy to hear from you, I'm sure.
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– Pete L. Clark
Dec 17 '13 at 7:53
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@Andres: No, I don't, but please feel free to write to Roy Smith. (He is active on this site under the name...roy smith.) He'd be happy to hear from you, I'm sure.
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– Pete L. Clark
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Yes, a Riemann-integral must be bounded; if not, then, for partition width $||P||$ , consider a point $x$ with $f(x)> frac {M}{||P||} $ (which will exist for any $M$, since f is , by assumption, unbounded). Now, since $f$ is unbounded, $M rightarrow infty$ , so the Riemann sum associated to the partition length $||P||$ will be bounded below by $$||P||(frac {M}{||P||})=M rightarrow infty$$. Since this is true for any partition length $||P||$ then the Riemann sum will diverge.
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Yes, a Riemann-integral must be bounded; if not, then, for partition width $||P||$ , consider a point $x$ with $f(x)> frac {M}{||P||} $ (which will exist for any $M$, since f is , by assumption, unbounded). Now, since $f$ is unbounded, $M rightarrow infty$ , so the Riemann sum associated to the partition length $||P||$ will be bounded below by $$||P||(frac {M}{||P||})=M rightarrow infty$$. Since this is true for any partition length $||P||$ then the Riemann sum will diverge.
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Yes, a Riemann-integral must be bounded; if not, then, for partition width $||P||$ , consider a point $x$ with $f(x)> frac {M}{||P||} $ (which will exist for any $M$, since f is , by assumption, unbounded). Now, since $f$ is unbounded, $M rightarrow infty$ , so the Riemann sum associated to the partition length $||P||$ will be bounded below by $$||P||(frac {M}{||P||})=M rightarrow infty$$. Since this is true for any partition length $||P||$ then the Riemann sum will diverge.
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Yes, a Riemann-integral must be bounded; if not, then, for partition width $||P||$ , consider a point $x$ with $f(x)> frac {M}{||P||} $ (which will exist for any $M$, since f is , by assumption, unbounded). Now, since $f$ is unbounded, $M rightarrow infty$ , so the Riemann sum associated to the partition length $||P||$ will be bounded below by $$||P||(frac {M}{||P||})=M rightarrow infty$$. Since this is true for any partition length $||P||$ then the Riemann sum will diverge.
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By definition, any Riemann integrable function is bounded. Improper integral are considered as limit of Riemann integrable functions.
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– user99914
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So improper integrals aren't Riemann integrals? Similar as to how limits of sequences are not sequences?
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@user97554 : if $f$ is unbounded on Ron $[a,b]$, then you can construct Riemann sums that either go to plus infinity or to minus infinity, with the maximum width of the subintervals going to zero, so $f$ is not Riemann integrable on $[a,b]$.
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