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Is it possible to come up with a single-line equation in rectangular coordinates for an equilateral triangle with circumradius $R$, positioned symmetrical about the $y$-axis, as shown in the diagram below?



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    What do you mean by a “single-line equation?” This might be the sort of thing you’re looking for.
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    @amd single-line equation meaning not a piecewise equation. Thanks for the suggested link - I did come across it earlier but here I'm looking for the solution for a specific case, and in rectangular coordinates.
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    Can’t you adapt the accepted answer to that question to your specific case?
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    Will take a look when I have some time. In the meantime, have posted my solution.
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Is it possible to come up with a single-line equation in rectangular coordinates for an equilateral triangle with circumradius $R$, positioned symmetrical about the $y$-axis, as shown in the diagram below?



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    What do you mean by a “single-line equation?” This might be the sort of thing you’re looking for.
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    @amd single-line equation meaning not a piecewise equation. Thanks for the suggested link - I did come across it earlier but here I'm looking for the solution for a specific case, and in rectangular coordinates.
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    – hypergeometric
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    Can’t you adapt the accepted answer to that question to your specific case?
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    – amd
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    Will take a look when I have some time. In the meantime, have posted my solution.
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    Jan 10 at 17:38














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Is it possible to come up with a single-line equation in rectangular coordinates for an equilateral triangle with circumradius $R$, positioned symmetrical about the $y$-axis, as shown in the diagram below?



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Is it possible to come up with a single-line equation in rectangular coordinates for an equilateral triangle with circumradius $R$, positioned symmetrical about the $y$-axis, as shown in the diagram below?



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    What do you mean by a “single-line equation?” This might be the sort of thing you’re looking for.
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    – amd
    Jan 8 at 19:36












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    @amd single-line equation meaning not a piecewise equation. Thanks for the suggested link - I did come across it earlier but here I'm looking for the solution for a specific case, and in rectangular coordinates.
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    – hypergeometric
    Jan 9 at 14:20










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    Can’t you adapt the accepted answer to that question to your specific case?
    $endgroup$
    – amd
    Jan 9 at 19:34










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    Will take a look when I have some time. In the meantime, have posted my solution.
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    – hypergeometric
    Jan 10 at 17:38


















  • $begingroup$
    What do you mean by a “single-line equation?” This might be the sort of thing you’re looking for.
    $endgroup$
    – amd
    Jan 8 at 19:36












  • $begingroup$
    @amd single-line equation meaning not a piecewise equation. Thanks for the suggested link - I did come across it earlier but here I'm looking for the solution for a specific case, and in rectangular coordinates.
    $endgroup$
    – hypergeometric
    Jan 9 at 14:20










  • $begingroup$
    Can’t you adapt the accepted answer to that question to your specific case?
    $endgroup$
    – amd
    Jan 9 at 19:34










  • $begingroup$
    Will take a look when I have some time. In the meantime, have posted my solution.
    $endgroup$
    – hypergeometric
    Jan 10 at 17:38
















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What do you mean by a “single-line equation?” This might be the sort of thing you’re looking for.
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– amd
Jan 8 at 19:36






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What do you mean by a “single-line equation?” This might be the sort of thing you’re looking for.
$endgroup$
– amd
Jan 8 at 19:36














$begingroup$
@amd single-line equation meaning not a piecewise equation. Thanks for the suggested link - I did come across it earlier but here I'm looking for the solution for a specific case, and in rectangular coordinates.
$endgroup$
– hypergeometric
Jan 9 at 14:20




$begingroup$
@amd single-line equation meaning not a piecewise equation. Thanks for the suggested link - I did come across it earlier but here I'm looking for the solution for a specific case, and in rectangular coordinates.
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– hypergeometric
Jan 9 at 14:20












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Can’t you adapt the accepted answer to that question to your specific case?
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– amd
Jan 9 at 19:34




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Can’t you adapt the accepted answer to that question to your specific case?
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– amd
Jan 9 at 19:34












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Will take a look when I have some time. In the meantime, have posted my solution.
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– hypergeometric
Jan 10 at 17:38




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Will take a look when I have some time. In the meantime, have posted my solution.
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I’m not entirely satisfied with the following, but it works and generalizes to any cyclic polygon: $$left(sqrt3x+y-Rright)left(sqrt3x-y+Rright)left(2y+Rright)+sqrt{R^2-x^2-y^2}=sqrt{R^2-x^2-y^2}.$$ The idea is that you take the union of the extensions of the triangle’s sides (the term on the left) and add terms that restrict the domain (the two radicals).






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    Nice solution, esp the use of $sqrt{R^2-x^2-y^2}$ on both sides to restrict the domain. (+1)
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A possible solution is
$$big|y+xsqrt3-Rbig|
; +;big|y-xsqrt3-Rbig|
; +;big|2y+Rbig|=3R+delta$$

where $delta$ is infinitesimal and $delta>0$.



See desmos implementation here.



Each of the three terms on LHS within absolute value signs when equated to zero form the equations of the three sides of the triangle.



Interestingly, when $delta=0$, the result is the entire region within the triangle.






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    You don’t find the “infinitesimal” fudge factor unsatisfactory? For any positive $delta$, this is a hexagon, and when $deltalt0$, there is no real solution to this equation.
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    I think it provides additional insight despite not being ideal. It's specified that $delta$ is infinitesimal. The comment that $delta>0$ has been added.
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    Jan 11 at 14:19










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    That’s exactly what I myself find unsatisfactory: what exactly does “infinitesimal” mean? There is no real number $delta$ for which this equation describes a triangle. The triangle is in some sense a limiting curve of these hexagons, but that’s a tricky thing to describe precisely.
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Here's a neat solution by my friend YC:



$$frac 2{sqrt3}big| x big|
; +; Bigg|frac 43 y + frac 2{sqrt{3}} big|xbig| - frac R3 Bigg|
; = ; R$$



See Desmos implementation here.






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    I’m not entirely satisfied with the following, but it works and generalizes to any cyclic polygon: $$left(sqrt3x+y-Rright)left(sqrt3x-y+Rright)left(2y+Rright)+sqrt{R^2-x^2-y^2}=sqrt{R^2-x^2-y^2}.$$ The idea is that you take the union of the extensions of the triangle’s sides (the term on the left) and add terms that restrict the domain (the two radicals).






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      Nice solution, esp the use of $sqrt{R^2-x^2-y^2}$ on both sides to restrict the domain. (+1)
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      Jan 11 at 14:21


















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    $begingroup$

    I’m not entirely satisfied with the following, but it works and generalizes to any cyclic polygon: $$left(sqrt3x+y-Rright)left(sqrt3x-y+Rright)left(2y+Rright)+sqrt{R^2-x^2-y^2}=sqrt{R^2-x^2-y^2}.$$ The idea is that you take the union of the extensions of the triangle’s sides (the term on the left) and add terms that restrict the domain (the two radicals).






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    • $begingroup$
      Nice solution, esp the use of $sqrt{R^2-x^2-y^2}$ on both sides to restrict the domain. (+1)
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      Jan 11 at 14:21
















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    $begingroup$

    I’m not entirely satisfied with the following, but it works and generalizes to any cyclic polygon: $$left(sqrt3x+y-Rright)left(sqrt3x-y+Rright)left(2y+Rright)+sqrt{R^2-x^2-y^2}=sqrt{R^2-x^2-y^2}.$$ The idea is that you take the union of the extensions of the triangle’s sides (the term on the left) and add terms that restrict the domain (the two radicals).






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    I’m not entirely satisfied with the following, but it works and generalizes to any cyclic polygon: $$left(sqrt3x+y-Rright)left(sqrt3x-y+Rright)left(2y+Rright)+sqrt{R^2-x^2-y^2}=sqrt{R^2-x^2-y^2}.$$ The idea is that you take the union of the extensions of the triangle’s sides (the term on the left) and add terms that restrict the domain (the two radicals).







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      Nice solution, esp the use of $sqrt{R^2-x^2-y^2}$ on both sides to restrict the domain. (+1)
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      Jan 11 at 14:21




















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      Nice solution, esp the use of $sqrt{R^2-x^2-y^2}$ on both sides to restrict the domain. (+1)
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      – hypergeometric
      Jan 11 at 14:21


















    $begingroup$
    Nice solution, esp the use of $sqrt{R^2-x^2-y^2}$ on both sides to restrict the domain. (+1)
    $endgroup$
    – hypergeometric
    Jan 11 at 14:21






    $begingroup$
    Nice solution, esp the use of $sqrt{R^2-x^2-y^2}$ on both sides to restrict the domain. (+1)
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    – hypergeometric
    Jan 11 at 14:21













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    A possible solution is
    $$big|y+xsqrt3-Rbig|
    ; +;big|y-xsqrt3-Rbig|
    ; +;big|2y+Rbig|=3R+delta$$

    where $delta$ is infinitesimal and $delta>0$.



    See desmos implementation here.



    Each of the three terms on LHS within absolute value signs when equated to zero form the equations of the three sides of the triangle.



    Interestingly, when $delta=0$, the result is the entire region within the triangle.






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      You don’t find the “infinitesimal” fudge factor unsatisfactory? For any positive $delta$, this is a hexagon, and when $deltalt0$, there is no real solution to this equation.
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      – amd
      Jan 10 at 18:58












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      I think it provides additional insight despite not being ideal. It's specified that $delta$ is infinitesimal. The comment that $delta>0$ has been added.
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      – hypergeometric
      Jan 11 at 14:19










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      That’s exactly what I myself find unsatisfactory: what exactly does “infinitesimal” mean? There is no real number $delta$ for which this equation describes a triangle. The triangle is in some sense a limiting curve of these hexagons, but that’s a tricky thing to describe precisely.
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      – amd
      Jan 11 at 19:32


















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    A possible solution is
    $$big|y+xsqrt3-Rbig|
    ; +;big|y-xsqrt3-Rbig|
    ; +;big|2y+Rbig|=3R+delta$$

    where $delta$ is infinitesimal and $delta>0$.



    See desmos implementation here.



    Each of the three terms on LHS within absolute value signs when equated to zero form the equations of the three sides of the triangle.



    Interestingly, when $delta=0$, the result is the entire region within the triangle.






    share|cite|improve this answer











    $endgroup$













    • $begingroup$
      You don’t find the “infinitesimal” fudge factor unsatisfactory? For any positive $delta$, this is a hexagon, and when $deltalt0$, there is no real solution to this equation.
      $endgroup$
      – amd
      Jan 10 at 18:58












    • $begingroup$
      I think it provides additional insight despite not being ideal. It's specified that $delta$ is infinitesimal. The comment that $delta>0$ has been added.
      $endgroup$
      – hypergeometric
      Jan 11 at 14:19










    • $begingroup$
      That’s exactly what I myself find unsatisfactory: what exactly does “infinitesimal” mean? There is no real number $delta$ for which this equation describes a triangle. The triangle is in some sense a limiting curve of these hexagons, but that’s a tricky thing to describe precisely.
      $endgroup$
      – amd
      Jan 11 at 19:32
















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    A possible solution is
    $$big|y+xsqrt3-Rbig|
    ; +;big|y-xsqrt3-Rbig|
    ; +;big|2y+Rbig|=3R+delta$$

    where $delta$ is infinitesimal and $delta>0$.



    See desmos implementation here.



    Each of the three terms on LHS within absolute value signs when equated to zero form the equations of the three sides of the triangle.



    Interestingly, when $delta=0$, the result is the entire region within the triangle.






    share|cite|improve this answer











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    A possible solution is
    $$big|y+xsqrt3-Rbig|
    ; +;big|y-xsqrt3-Rbig|
    ; +;big|2y+Rbig|=3R+delta$$

    where $delta$ is infinitesimal and $delta>0$.



    See desmos implementation here.



    Each of the three terms on LHS within absolute value signs when equated to zero form the equations of the three sides of the triangle.



    Interestingly, when $delta=0$, the result is the entire region within the triangle.







    share|cite|improve this answer














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      You don’t find the “infinitesimal” fudge factor unsatisfactory? For any positive $delta$, this is a hexagon, and when $deltalt0$, there is no real solution to this equation.
      $endgroup$
      – amd
      Jan 10 at 18:58












    • $begingroup$
      I think it provides additional insight despite not being ideal. It's specified that $delta$ is infinitesimal. The comment that $delta>0$ has been added.
      $endgroup$
      – hypergeometric
      Jan 11 at 14:19










    • $begingroup$
      That’s exactly what I myself find unsatisfactory: what exactly does “infinitesimal” mean? There is no real number $delta$ for which this equation describes a triangle. The triangle is in some sense a limiting curve of these hexagons, but that’s a tricky thing to describe precisely.
      $endgroup$
      – amd
      Jan 11 at 19:32




















    • $begingroup$
      You don’t find the “infinitesimal” fudge factor unsatisfactory? For any positive $delta$, this is a hexagon, and when $deltalt0$, there is no real solution to this equation.
      $endgroup$
      – amd
      Jan 10 at 18:58












    • $begingroup$
      I think it provides additional insight despite not being ideal. It's specified that $delta$ is infinitesimal. The comment that $delta>0$ has been added.
      $endgroup$
      – hypergeometric
      Jan 11 at 14:19










    • $begingroup$
      That’s exactly what I myself find unsatisfactory: what exactly does “infinitesimal” mean? There is no real number $delta$ for which this equation describes a triangle. The triangle is in some sense a limiting curve of these hexagons, but that’s a tricky thing to describe precisely.
      $endgroup$
      – amd
      Jan 11 at 19:32


















    $begingroup$
    You don’t find the “infinitesimal” fudge factor unsatisfactory? For any positive $delta$, this is a hexagon, and when $deltalt0$, there is no real solution to this equation.
    $endgroup$
    – amd
    Jan 10 at 18:58






    $begingroup$
    You don’t find the “infinitesimal” fudge factor unsatisfactory? For any positive $delta$, this is a hexagon, and when $deltalt0$, there is no real solution to this equation.
    $endgroup$
    – amd
    Jan 10 at 18:58














    $begingroup$
    I think it provides additional insight despite not being ideal. It's specified that $delta$ is infinitesimal. The comment that $delta>0$ has been added.
    $endgroup$
    – hypergeometric
    Jan 11 at 14:19




    $begingroup$
    I think it provides additional insight despite not being ideal. It's specified that $delta$ is infinitesimal. The comment that $delta>0$ has been added.
    $endgroup$
    – hypergeometric
    Jan 11 at 14:19












    $begingroup$
    That’s exactly what I myself find unsatisfactory: what exactly does “infinitesimal” mean? There is no real number $delta$ for which this equation describes a triangle. The triangle is in some sense a limiting curve of these hexagons, but that’s a tricky thing to describe precisely.
    $endgroup$
    – amd
    Jan 11 at 19:32






    $begingroup$
    That’s exactly what I myself find unsatisfactory: what exactly does “infinitesimal” mean? There is no real number $delta$ for which this equation describes a triangle. The triangle is in some sense a limiting curve of these hexagons, but that’s a tricky thing to describe precisely.
    $endgroup$
    – amd
    Jan 11 at 19:32













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    Here's a neat solution by my friend YC:



    $$frac 2{sqrt3}big| x big|
    ; +; Bigg|frac 43 y + frac 2{sqrt{3}} big|xbig| - frac R3 Bigg|
    ; = ; R$$



    See Desmos implementation here.






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      Here's a neat solution by my friend YC:



      $$frac 2{sqrt3}big| x big|
      ; +; Bigg|frac 43 y + frac 2{sqrt{3}} big|xbig| - frac R3 Bigg|
      ; = ; R$$



      See Desmos implementation here.






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        Here's a neat solution by my friend YC:



        $$frac 2{sqrt3}big| x big|
        ; +; Bigg|frac 43 y + frac 2{sqrt{3}} big|xbig| - frac R3 Bigg|
        ; = ; R$$



        See Desmos implementation here.






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        Here's a neat solution by my friend YC:



        $$frac 2{sqrt3}big| x big|
        ; +; Bigg|frac 43 y + frac 2{sqrt{3}} big|xbig| - frac R3 Bigg|
        ; = ; R$$



        See Desmos implementation here.







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