How to Calculate the flux of the Vector Field on the surface $z = 1-x^2-y^2$ ( getting normal vector...












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Let $S$ be the surface $z = 1-x^2-y^2 , 0leq z$.



Find $int_{S} x^2z~dydz + y^2z~dzdx + (x^2+y^2)~dxdy$.
Choose the direction of the normal upwards.




so i calculated the flux and i got that it is $boxed{frac{pi}{2}}$. i am not sure if that is right



Parametrization $R(theta,r) = (rcos(theta),rsin(theta),1-r^2)$



and the normal is $(2r^2cos(theta),2r^2sin(theta),r)$ i feel like its not right but i calculated it many times at the point $(0,0,1) ~ r = 0$ but the normal is $(0,0,0)$



$int_{S}vec{F} _dot{} vec{n}$ = $int_{theta = 0}^{theta = 2pi}int_{r=0}^{r=1}~~(2r^4-2r^6)(sin^3{theta}+cos^3{theta}) + r^3~~drdtheta$










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    anyone ? i need help , i feel like the normal is Wrong at the point (0,0,1) i get the normal vector (0,0,0)
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    – Mather
    Jan 15 at 22:47






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    Your calculations and the result are correct. The magnitude of the normal vector is zero when $r = 0$, but the $x$ and $y$ components are infinitesimals of higher order for small $r$, so the vector is approximately vertical and pointing upwards, and the unit normal is close to $(0, 0, 1)$.
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    Jan 16 at 4:30












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    But without parametrizing the normal is $(0,0,1)$ and with it is (0,0,0) why ?
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    – Mather
    Jan 16 at 7:40






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    $begingroup$
    The unit normal is close to $(0, 0, 1)$. The unit normal is $(2 r cos theta, 2 r sin theta, 1)/sqrt{1 + 4 r^2}$.
    $endgroup$
    – Maxim
    Jan 16 at 8:04
















1












$begingroup$



Let $S$ be the surface $z = 1-x^2-y^2 , 0leq z$.



Find $int_{S} x^2z~dydz + y^2z~dzdx + (x^2+y^2)~dxdy$.
Choose the direction of the normal upwards.




so i calculated the flux and i got that it is $boxed{frac{pi}{2}}$. i am not sure if that is right



Parametrization $R(theta,r) = (rcos(theta),rsin(theta),1-r^2)$



and the normal is $(2r^2cos(theta),2r^2sin(theta),r)$ i feel like its not right but i calculated it many times at the point $(0,0,1) ~ r = 0$ but the normal is $(0,0,0)$



$int_{S}vec{F} _dot{} vec{n}$ = $int_{theta = 0}^{theta = 2pi}int_{r=0}^{r=1}~~(2r^4-2r^6)(sin^3{theta}+cos^3{theta}) + r^3~~drdtheta$










share|cite|improve this question











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  • $begingroup$
    anyone ? i need help , i feel like the normal is Wrong at the point (0,0,1) i get the normal vector (0,0,0)
    $endgroup$
    – Mather
    Jan 15 at 22:47






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Your calculations and the result are correct. The magnitude of the normal vector is zero when $r = 0$, but the $x$ and $y$ components are infinitesimals of higher order for small $r$, so the vector is approximately vertical and pointing upwards, and the unit normal is close to $(0, 0, 1)$.
    $endgroup$
    – Maxim
    Jan 16 at 4:30












  • $begingroup$
    But without parametrizing the normal is $(0,0,1)$ and with it is (0,0,0) why ?
    $endgroup$
    – Mather
    Jan 16 at 7:40






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    The unit normal is close to $(0, 0, 1)$. The unit normal is $(2 r cos theta, 2 r sin theta, 1)/sqrt{1 + 4 r^2}$.
    $endgroup$
    – Maxim
    Jan 16 at 8:04














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$begingroup$



Let $S$ be the surface $z = 1-x^2-y^2 , 0leq z$.



Find $int_{S} x^2z~dydz + y^2z~dzdx + (x^2+y^2)~dxdy$.
Choose the direction of the normal upwards.




so i calculated the flux and i got that it is $boxed{frac{pi}{2}}$. i am not sure if that is right



Parametrization $R(theta,r) = (rcos(theta),rsin(theta),1-r^2)$



and the normal is $(2r^2cos(theta),2r^2sin(theta),r)$ i feel like its not right but i calculated it many times at the point $(0,0,1) ~ r = 0$ but the normal is $(0,0,0)$



$int_{S}vec{F} _dot{} vec{n}$ = $int_{theta = 0}^{theta = 2pi}int_{r=0}^{r=1}~~(2r^4-2r^6)(sin^3{theta}+cos^3{theta}) + r^3~~drdtheta$










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Let $S$ be the surface $z = 1-x^2-y^2 , 0leq z$.



Find $int_{S} x^2z~dydz + y^2z~dzdx + (x^2+y^2)~dxdy$.
Choose the direction of the normal upwards.




so i calculated the flux and i got that it is $boxed{frac{pi}{2}}$. i am not sure if that is right



Parametrization $R(theta,r) = (rcos(theta),rsin(theta),1-r^2)$



and the normal is $(2r^2cos(theta),2r^2sin(theta),r)$ i feel like its not right but i calculated it many times at the point $(0,0,1) ~ r = 0$ but the normal is $(0,0,0)$



$int_{S}vec{F} _dot{} vec{n}$ = $int_{theta = 0}^{theta = 2pi}int_{r=0}^{r=1}~~(2r^4-2r^6)(sin^3{theta}+cos^3{theta}) + r^3~~drdtheta$







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  • $begingroup$
    anyone ? i need help , i feel like the normal is Wrong at the point (0,0,1) i get the normal vector (0,0,0)
    $endgroup$
    – Mather
    Jan 15 at 22:47






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Your calculations and the result are correct. The magnitude of the normal vector is zero when $r = 0$, but the $x$ and $y$ components are infinitesimals of higher order for small $r$, so the vector is approximately vertical and pointing upwards, and the unit normal is close to $(0, 0, 1)$.
    $endgroup$
    – Maxim
    Jan 16 at 4:30












  • $begingroup$
    But without parametrizing the normal is $(0,0,1)$ and with it is (0,0,0) why ?
    $endgroup$
    – Mather
    Jan 16 at 7:40






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    The unit normal is close to $(0, 0, 1)$. The unit normal is $(2 r cos theta, 2 r sin theta, 1)/sqrt{1 + 4 r^2}$.
    $endgroup$
    – Maxim
    Jan 16 at 8:04


















  • $begingroup$
    anyone ? i need help , i feel like the normal is Wrong at the point (0,0,1) i get the normal vector (0,0,0)
    $endgroup$
    – Mather
    Jan 15 at 22:47






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Your calculations and the result are correct. The magnitude of the normal vector is zero when $r = 0$, but the $x$ and $y$ components are infinitesimals of higher order for small $r$, so the vector is approximately vertical and pointing upwards, and the unit normal is close to $(0, 0, 1)$.
    $endgroup$
    – Maxim
    Jan 16 at 4:30












  • $begingroup$
    But without parametrizing the normal is $(0,0,1)$ and with it is (0,0,0) why ?
    $endgroup$
    – Mather
    Jan 16 at 7:40






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    The unit normal is close to $(0, 0, 1)$. The unit normal is $(2 r cos theta, 2 r sin theta, 1)/sqrt{1 + 4 r^2}$.
    $endgroup$
    – Maxim
    Jan 16 at 8:04
















$begingroup$
anyone ? i need help , i feel like the normal is Wrong at the point (0,0,1) i get the normal vector (0,0,0)
$endgroup$
– Mather
Jan 15 at 22:47




$begingroup$
anyone ? i need help , i feel like the normal is Wrong at the point (0,0,1) i get the normal vector (0,0,0)
$endgroup$
– Mather
Jan 15 at 22:47




1




1




$begingroup$
Your calculations and the result are correct. The magnitude of the normal vector is zero when $r = 0$, but the $x$ and $y$ components are infinitesimals of higher order for small $r$, so the vector is approximately vertical and pointing upwards, and the unit normal is close to $(0, 0, 1)$.
$endgroup$
– Maxim
Jan 16 at 4:30






$begingroup$
Your calculations and the result are correct. The magnitude of the normal vector is zero when $r = 0$, but the $x$ and $y$ components are infinitesimals of higher order for small $r$, so the vector is approximately vertical and pointing upwards, and the unit normal is close to $(0, 0, 1)$.
$endgroup$
– Maxim
Jan 16 at 4:30














$begingroup$
But without parametrizing the normal is $(0,0,1)$ and with it is (0,0,0) why ?
$endgroup$
– Mather
Jan 16 at 7:40




$begingroup$
But without parametrizing the normal is $(0,0,1)$ and with it is (0,0,0) why ?
$endgroup$
– Mather
Jan 16 at 7:40




1




1




$begingroup$
The unit normal is close to $(0, 0, 1)$. The unit normal is $(2 r cos theta, 2 r sin theta, 1)/sqrt{1 + 4 r^2}$.
$endgroup$
– Maxim
Jan 16 at 8:04




$begingroup$
The unit normal is close to $(0, 0, 1)$. The unit normal is $(2 r cos theta, 2 r sin theta, 1)/sqrt{1 + 4 r^2}$.
$endgroup$
– Maxim
Jan 16 at 8:04










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