What's wrong with this distributional laplacian?












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Let $f$ be a locally integrable function on an open set $G$ of $mathbb{R}^{n}$ and $ ngeq2 $. Suppose $theta$ is in $ C^{infty}(G) $ such that its laplacian $ Delta theta=1 $ everywhere in $mathbb{R}^{n}$, and let $phiin C_{c}^{infty}(G)$. Clearly $phi thetain C_{c}^{infty}(G).$ We know that the distributional laplacian of $f$ is defined and is given by
$$ langle Delta f,(phi theta)rangle=int_{G}f(x)Delta[phi(x) theta(x)]dx. $$



Now, if I write that this integral is equal to
$$ int_{G}f(x)phi(x)dx+int_{G}f(x)[Deltaphi(x)] theta(x)dx +sumlimits^{n}_{j=1}int_{G}f(x)frac{partial phi(x)}{partial x_{j}}frac{partialtheta(x) }{partial x_{j}} dx,$$ I obtain absurd results by using some specific functions for $phi$. There must be somthing wrong with the first integral (by the way I used here the fact that $Deltathetaequiv1$). What's wrong with that?










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    Is it $Delta f = 1$ or $Delta f = delta$ (Dirac distribution) ?
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    – Jean Marie
    Dec 15 '18 at 4:15










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    $f$ is a locally integrable function, but not smooth.
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    – M. Rahmat
    Dec 15 '18 at 4:35










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    Be kind enough to answer my question : is the RHS constant function $1$ or a Dirac peak $delta$ ? This is not at all the same.
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    – Jean Marie
    Dec 15 '18 at 5:16










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    Sorry! I don't understand your question! What does it mean that the integral on the right equals 1? Or equals the Dirac distribution?
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    – M. Rahmat
    Dec 15 '18 at 6:51










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    I mean the RHS of your first equation $Delta theta = 1$.
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    – Jean Marie
    Dec 15 '18 at 9:24
















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Let $f$ be a locally integrable function on an open set $G$ of $mathbb{R}^{n}$ and $ ngeq2 $. Suppose $theta$ is in $ C^{infty}(G) $ such that its laplacian $ Delta theta=1 $ everywhere in $mathbb{R}^{n}$, and let $phiin C_{c}^{infty}(G)$. Clearly $phi thetain C_{c}^{infty}(G).$ We know that the distributional laplacian of $f$ is defined and is given by
$$ langle Delta f,(phi theta)rangle=int_{G}f(x)Delta[phi(x) theta(x)]dx. $$



Now, if I write that this integral is equal to
$$ int_{G}f(x)phi(x)dx+int_{G}f(x)[Deltaphi(x)] theta(x)dx +sumlimits^{n}_{j=1}int_{G}f(x)frac{partial phi(x)}{partial x_{j}}frac{partialtheta(x) }{partial x_{j}} dx,$$ I obtain absurd results by using some specific functions for $phi$. There must be somthing wrong with the first integral (by the way I used here the fact that $Deltathetaequiv1$). What's wrong with that?










share|cite|improve this question









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  • $begingroup$
    Is it $Delta f = 1$ or $Delta f = delta$ (Dirac distribution) ?
    $endgroup$
    – Jean Marie
    Dec 15 '18 at 4:15










  • $begingroup$
    $f$ is a locally integrable function, but not smooth.
    $endgroup$
    – M. Rahmat
    Dec 15 '18 at 4:35










  • $begingroup$
    Be kind enough to answer my question : is the RHS constant function $1$ or a Dirac peak $delta$ ? This is not at all the same.
    $endgroup$
    – Jean Marie
    Dec 15 '18 at 5:16










  • $begingroup$
    Sorry! I don't understand your question! What does it mean that the integral on the right equals 1? Or equals the Dirac distribution?
    $endgroup$
    – M. Rahmat
    Dec 15 '18 at 6:51










  • $begingroup$
    I mean the RHS of your first equation $Delta theta = 1$.
    $endgroup$
    – Jean Marie
    Dec 15 '18 at 9:24














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$begingroup$


Let $f$ be a locally integrable function on an open set $G$ of $mathbb{R}^{n}$ and $ ngeq2 $. Suppose $theta$ is in $ C^{infty}(G) $ such that its laplacian $ Delta theta=1 $ everywhere in $mathbb{R}^{n}$, and let $phiin C_{c}^{infty}(G)$. Clearly $phi thetain C_{c}^{infty}(G).$ We know that the distributional laplacian of $f$ is defined and is given by
$$ langle Delta f,(phi theta)rangle=int_{G}f(x)Delta[phi(x) theta(x)]dx. $$



Now, if I write that this integral is equal to
$$ int_{G}f(x)phi(x)dx+int_{G}f(x)[Deltaphi(x)] theta(x)dx +sumlimits^{n}_{j=1}int_{G}f(x)frac{partial phi(x)}{partial x_{j}}frac{partialtheta(x) }{partial x_{j}} dx,$$ I obtain absurd results by using some specific functions for $phi$. There must be somthing wrong with the first integral (by the way I used here the fact that $Deltathetaequiv1$). What's wrong with that?










share|cite|improve this question









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Let $f$ be a locally integrable function on an open set $G$ of $mathbb{R}^{n}$ and $ ngeq2 $. Suppose $theta$ is in $ C^{infty}(G) $ such that its laplacian $ Delta theta=1 $ everywhere in $mathbb{R}^{n}$, and let $phiin C_{c}^{infty}(G)$. Clearly $phi thetain C_{c}^{infty}(G).$ We know that the distributional laplacian of $f$ is defined and is given by
$$ langle Delta f,(phi theta)rangle=int_{G}f(x)Delta[phi(x) theta(x)]dx. $$



Now, if I write that this integral is equal to
$$ int_{G}f(x)phi(x)dx+int_{G}f(x)[Deltaphi(x)] theta(x)dx +sumlimits^{n}_{j=1}int_{G}f(x)frac{partial phi(x)}{partial x_{j}}frac{partialtheta(x) }{partial x_{j}} dx,$$ I obtain absurd results by using some specific functions for $phi$. There must be somthing wrong with the first integral (by the way I used here the fact that $Deltathetaequiv1$). What's wrong with that?







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  • $begingroup$
    Is it $Delta f = 1$ or $Delta f = delta$ (Dirac distribution) ?
    $endgroup$
    – Jean Marie
    Dec 15 '18 at 4:15










  • $begingroup$
    $f$ is a locally integrable function, but not smooth.
    $endgroup$
    – M. Rahmat
    Dec 15 '18 at 4:35










  • $begingroup$
    Be kind enough to answer my question : is the RHS constant function $1$ or a Dirac peak $delta$ ? This is not at all the same.
    $endgroup$
    – Jean Marie
    Dec 15 '18 at 5:16










  • $begingroup$
    Sorry! I don't understand your question! What does it mean that the integral on the right equals 1? Or equals the Dirac distribution?
    $endgroup$
    – M. Rahmat
    Dec 15 '18 at 6:51










  • $begingroup$
    I mean the RHS of your first equation $Delta theta = 1$.
    $endgroup$
    – Jean Marie
    Dec 15 '18 at 9:24


















  • $begingroup$
    Is it $Delta f = 1$ or $Delta f = delta$ (Dirac distribution) ?
    $endgroup$
    – Jean Marie
    Dec 15 '18 at 4:15










  • $begingroup$
    $f$ is a locally integrable function, but not smooth.
    $endgroup$
    – M. Rahmat
    Dec 15 '18 at 4:35










  • $begingroup$
    Be kind enough to answer my question : is the RHS constant function $1$ or a Dirac peak $delta$ ? This is not at all the same.
    $endgroup$
    – Jean Marie
    Dec 15 '18 at 5:16










  • $begingroup$
    Sorry! I don't understand your question! What does it mean that the integral on the right equals 1? Or equals the Dirac distribution?
    $endgroup$
    – M. Rahmat
    Dec 15 '18 at 6:51










  • $begingroup$
    I mean the RHS of your first equation $Delta theta = 1$.
    $endgroup$
    – Jean Marie
    Dec 15 '18 at 9:24
















$begingroup$
Is it $Delta f = 1$ or $Delta f = delta$ (Dirac distribution) ?
$endgroup$
– Jean Marie
Dec 15 '18 at 4:15




$begingroup$
Is it $Delta f = 1$ or $Delta f = delta$ (Dirac distribution) ?
$endgroup$
– Jean Marie
Dec 15 '18 at 4:15












$begingroup$
$f$ is a locally integrable function, but not smooth.
$endgroup$
– M. Rahmat
Dec 15 '18 at 4:35




$begingroup$
$f$ is a locally integrable function, but not smooth.
$endgroup$
– M. Rahmat
Dec 15 '18 at 4:35












$begingroup$
Be kind enough to answer my question : is the RHS constant function $1$ or a Dirac peak $delta$ ? This is not at all the same.
$endgroup$
– Jean Marie
Dec 15 '18 at 5:16




$begingroup$
Be kind enough to answer my question : is the RHS constant function $1$ or a Dirac peak $delta$ ? This is not at all the same.
$endgroup$
– Jean Marie
Dec 15 '18 at 5:16












$begingroup$
Sorry! I don't understand your question! What does it mean that the integral on the right equals 1? Or equals the Dirac distribution?
$endgroup$
– M. Rahmat
Dec 15 '18 at 6:51




$begingroup$
Sorry! I don't understand your question! What does it mean that the integral on the right equals 1? Or equals the Dirac distribution?
$endgroup$
– M. Rahmat
Dec 15 '18 at 6:51












$begingroup$
I mean the RHS of your first equation $Delta theta = 1$.
$endgroup$
– Jean Marie
Dec 15 '18 at 9:24




$begingroup$
I mean the RHS of your first equation $Delta theta = 1$.
$endgroup$
– Jean Marie
Dec 15 '18 at 9:24










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