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The line $L_1$ is parallel to the vector $i-2j-3k$ and passes through $A$, whose position vector is $3i+3j-4k$.



The line $L_2$ is parallel to the vector $-2i+j+3k$ and passes through the point $B$, whose position vector is $-3i-j+2k$.



The point $P$ on $L_1$ and the point $Q$ on $L_2$ are such that $PQ$ is perpendicular to both $L_1$ and $L_2$.



Find:




  1. The length of $PQ$

  2. The cartesian equation of the plane $PI$ contaning $PQ$ and $L_2$

  3. The perpendocular distance of $A$ from $PI$










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    Find i) the length of PQ
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The line $L_1$ is parallel to the vector $i-2j-3k$ and passes through $A$, whose position vector is $3i+3j-4k$.



The line $L_2$ is parallel to the vector $-2i+j+3k$ and passes through the point $B$, whose position vector is $-3i-j+2k$.



The point $P$ on $L_1$ and the point $Q$ on $L_2$ are such that $PQ$ is perpendicular to both $L_1$ and $L_2$.



Find:




  1. The length of $PQ$

  2. The cartesian equation of the plane $PI$ contaning $PQ$ and $L_2$

  3. The perpendocular distance of $A$ from $PI$










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    Find i) the length of PQ
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The line $L_1$ is parallel to the vector $i-2j-3k$ and passes through $A$, whose position vector is $3i+3j-4k$.



The line $L_2$ is parallel to the vector $-2i+j+3k$ and passes through the point $B$, whose position vector is $-3i-j+2k$.



The point $P$ on $L_1$ and the point $Q$ on $L_2$ are such that $PQ$ is perpendicular to both $L_1$ and $L_2$.



Find:




  1. The length of $PQ$

  2. The cartesian equation of the plane $PI$ contaning $PQ$ and $L_2$

  3. The perpendocular distance of $A$ from $PI$










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The line $L_1$ is parallel to the vector $i-2j-3k$ and passes through $A$, whose position vector is $3i+3j-4k$.



The line $L_2$ is parallel to the vector $-2i+j+3k$ and passes through the point $B$, whose position vector is $-3i-j+2k$.



The point $P$ on $L_1$ and the point $Q$ on $L_2$ are such that $PQ$ is perpendicular to both $L_1$ and $L_2$.



Find:




  1. The length of $PQ$

  2. The cartesian equation of the plane $PI$ contaning $PQ$ and $L_2$

  3. The perpendocular distance of $A$ from $PI$







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Write equations of the lines in parametric form: $x_1=m_1t_1+b_1$ and $x_2=m_2t_2+b_2$ where $m_1=[1 ,,-2,,-3]^T$, $m_2=[-2,,1,,3]^T$, $b_1=[3 ,,3,,-4]^T$ and $b_2=[-3,,-1,,2]^T$. $t_1$ and $t_2$ are scalars. The distance $d$ between the lines is $$d^2=(x_1-x_2) bullet (x_1-x_2) = (x_1-x_2)^T(x_1-x_2)$$ which, if it is minimized, will give you $P$ and $Q$.



begin{align}
{partial over partial t_1}d^2&=(x_1-x_2)^Tm_1+m_1^T(x_1-x_2)=2m_1^T(x_1-x_2) \
-{partial over partial t_2}d^2&=(x_1-x_2)^Tm_2+m_2^T(x_1-x_2)=2m_2^T(x_1-x_2)
end{align}



Now set these partials equal zero and solve for $t_1$ and $t_2$. If $t_1'$ and $t_2'$ are the solution, then $P=m_1t_1'+b_1$ and $Q=m_2t_2'+b_2$. I get $t_1'=4.2222$ and $t_2'=-5.7778$.



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    Write equations of the lines in parametric form: $x_1=m_1t_1+b_1$ and $x_2=m_2t_2+b_2$ where $m_1=[1 ,,-2,,-3]^T$, $m_2=[-2,,1,,3]^T$, $b_1=[3 ,,3,,-4]^T$ and $b_2=[-3,,-1,,2]^T$. $t_1$ and $t_2$ are scalars. The distance $d$ between the lines is $$d^2=(x_1-x_2) bullet (x_1-x_2) = (x_1-x_2)^T(x_1-x_2)$$ which, if it is minimized, will give you $P$ and $Q$.



    begin{align}
    {partial over partial t_1}d^2&=(x_1-x_2)^Tm_1+m_1^T(x_1-x_2)=2m_1^T(x_1-x_2) \
    -{partial over partial t_2}d^2&=(x_1-x_2)^Tm_2+m_2^T(x_1-x_2)=2m_2^T(x_1-x_2)
    end{align}



    Now set these partials equal zero and solve for $t_1$ and $t_2$. If $t_1'$ and $t_2'$ are the solution, then $P=m_1t_1'+b_1$ and $Q=m_2t_2'+b_2$. I get $t_1'=4.2222$ and $t_2'=-5.7778$.



    You should be able to complete the answer with a few web searches, e.g. "plane from 3 points", etc.






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      Write equations of the lines in parametric form: $x_1=m_1t_1+b_1$ and $x_2=m_2t_2+b_2$ where $m_1=[1 ,,-2,,-3]^T$, $m_2=[-2,,1,,3]^T$, $b_1=[3 ,,3,,-4]^T$ and $b_2=[-3,,-1,,2]^T$. $t_1$ and $t_2$ are scalars. The distance $d$ between the lines is $$d^2=(x_1-x_2) bullet (x_1-x_2) = (x_1-x_2)^T(x_1-x_2)$$ which, if it is minimized, will give you $P$ and $Q$.



      begin{align}
      {partial over partial t_1}d^2&=(x_1-x_2)^Tm_1+m_1^T(x_1-x_2)=2m_1^T(x_1-x_2) \
      -{partial over partial t_2}d^2&=(x_1-x_2)^Tm_2+m_2^T(x_1-x_2)=2m_2^T(x_1-x_2)
      end{align}



      Now set these partials equal zero and solve for $t_1$ and $t_2$. If $t_1'$ and $t_2'$ are the solution, then $P=m_1t_1'+b_1$ and $Q=m_2t_2'+b_2$. I get $t_1'=4.2222$ and $t_2'=-5.7778$.



      You should be able to complete the answer with a few web searches, e.g. "plane from 3 points", etc.






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        Write equations of the lines in parametric form: $x_1=m_1t_1+b_1$ and $x_2=m_2t_2+b_2$ where $m_1=[1 ,,-2,,-3]^T$, $m_2=[-2,,1,,3]^T$, $b_1=[3 ,,3,,-4]^T$ and $b_2=[-3,,-1,,2]^T$. $t_1$ and $t_2$ are scalars. The distance $d$ between the lines is $$d^2=(x_1-x_2) bullet (x_1-x_2) = (x_1-x_2)^T(x_1-x_2)$$ which, if it is minimized, will give you $P$ and $Q$.



        begin{align}
        {partial over partial t_1}d^2&=(x_1-x_2)^Tm_1+m_1^T(x_1-x_2)=2m_1^T(x_1-x_2) \
        -{partial over partial t_2}d^2&=(x_1-x_2)^Tm_2+m_2^T(x_1-x_2)=2m_2^T(x_1-x_2)
        end{align}



        Now set these partials equal zero and solve for $t_1$ and $t_2$. If $t_1'$ and $t_2'$ are the solution, then $P=m_1t_1'+b_1$ and $Q=m_2t_2'+b_2$. I get $t_1'=4.2222$ and $t_2'=-5.7778$.



        You should be able to complete the answer with a few web searches, e.g. "plane from 3 points", etc.






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        Write equations of the lines in parametric form: $x_1=m_1t_1+b_1$ and $x_2=m_2t_2+b_2$ where $m_1=[1 ,,-2,,-3]^T$, $m_2=[-2,,1,,3]^T$, $b_1=[3 ,,3,,-4]^T$ and $b_2=[-3,,-1,,2]^T$. $t_1$ and $t_2$ are scalars. The distance $d$ between the lines is $$d^2=(x_1-x_2) bullet (x_1-x_2) = (x_1-x_2)^T(x_1-x_2)$$ which, if it is minimized, will give you $P$ and $Q$.



        begin{align}
        {partial over partial t_1}d^2&=(x_1-x_2)^Tm_1+m_1^T(x_1-x_2)=2m_1^T(x_1-x_2) \
        -{partial over partial t_2}d^2&=(x_1-x_2)^Tm_2+m_2^T(x_1-x_2)=2m_2^T(x_1-x_2)
        end{align}



        Now set these partials equal zero and solve for $t_1$ and $t_2$. If $t_1'$ and $t_2'$ are the solution, then $P=m_1t_1'+b_1$ and $Q=m_2t_2'+b_2$. I get $t_1'=4.2222$ and $t_2'=-5.7778$.



        You should be able to complete the answer with a few web searches, e.g. "plane from 3 points", etc.







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