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I have a question about this proof of a theorem from Yeh’s Real Analysis (3rd edition).
The theorem and proof are in the attached images:
My question pertains to the part that says:
${D : g < r_n} = {D setminus N : g < r_n} cup {N : g < r_n}$
How do we get that $D setminus N cup N = D$? This is only true if $N subseteq D$, but I’m not sure exactly how this came to be. I’m guessing it’s from the fact that D is a complete measure space? But it’s a bit vague to me.
Thanks!
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I have a question about this proof of a theorem from Yeh’s Real Analysis (3rd edition).
The theorem and proof are in the attached images:
My question pertains to the part that says:
${D : g < r_n} = {D setminus N : g < r_n} cup {N : g < r_n}$
How do we get that $D setminus N cup N = D$? This is only true if $N subseteq D$, but I’m not sure exactly how this came to be. I’m guessing it’s from the fact that D is a complete measure space? But it’s a bit vague to me.
Thanks!
real-analysis measure-theory
What is $D$ to begin with? And why it is not $X$?
– Will M.
yesterday
@WillM. I don’t think I understand your question. $D$ is defined in the statement of the theorem. It could be $X$, I suppose? But why would it necessarily be?
– Jane Doe
yesterday
So, the author is actually assuming the measure space to be $(D, mathfrak{A})$?
– Will M.
yesterday
@WillM. No, $mathfrak{A}$ is a $sigma$-algebra of subsets of $X$ and $D in mathfrak{A}$ so $D subseteq X$.
– Jane Doe
yesterday
I'm pretty sure the author is just taking the measure space $(D, mathfrak{A}_D)$ where $mathfrak{A}_D$ is the trace of the sigma algebra on $D$ (that is, the measurable sets contained in $D$). So you can assume $X = D.$
– Will M.
yesterday
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I have a question about this proof of a theorem from Yeh’s Real Analysis (3rd edition).
The theorem and proof are in the attached images:
My question pertains to the part that says:
${D : g < r_n} = {D setminus N : g < r_n} cup {N : g < r_n}$
How do we get that $D setminus N cup N = D$? This is only true if $N subseteq D$, but I’m not sure exactly how this came to be. I’m guessing it’s from the fact that D is a complete measure space? But it’s a bit vague to me.
Thanks!
real-analysis measure-theory
I have a question about this proof of a theorem from Yeh’s Real Analysis (3rd edition).
The theorem and proof are in the attached images:
My question pertains to the part that says:
${D : g < r_n} = {D setminus N : g < r_n} cup {N : g < r_n}$
How do we get that $D setminus N cup N = D$? This is only true if $N subseteq D$, but I’m not sure exactly how this came to be. I’m guessing it’s from the fact that D is a complete measure space? But it’s a bit vague to me.
Thanks!
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What is $D$ to begin with? And why it is not $X$?
– Will M.
yesterday
@WillM. I don’t think I understand your question. $D$ is defined in the statement of the theorem. It could be $X$, I suppose? But why would it necessarily be?
– Jane Doe
yesterday
So, the author is actually assuming the measure space to be $(D, mathfrak{A})$?
– Will M.
yesterday
@WillM. No, $mathfrak{A}$ is a $sigma$-algebra of subsets of $X$ and $D in mathfrak{A}$ so $D subseteq X$.
– Jane Doe
yesterday
I'm pretty sure the author is just taking the measure space $(D, mathfrak{A}_D)$ where $mathfrak{A}_D$ is the trace of the sigma algebra on $D$ (that is, the measurable sets contained in $D$). So you can assume $X = D.$
– Will M.
yesterday
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What is $D$ to begin with? And why it is not $X$?
– Will M.
yesterday
@WillM. I don’t think I understand your question. $D$ is defined in the statement of the theorem. It could be $X$, I suppose? But why would it necessarily be?
– Jane Doe
yesterday
So, the author is actually assuming the measure space to be $(D, mathfrak{A})$?
– Will M.
yesterday
@WillM. No, $mathfrak{A}$ is a $sigma$-algebra of subsets of $X$ and $D in mathfrak{A}$ so $D subseteq X$.
– Jane Doe
yesterday
I'm pretty sure the author is just taking the measure space $(D, mathfrak{A}_D)$ where $mathfrak{A}_D$ is the trace of the sigma algebra on $D$ (that is, the measurable sets contained in $D$). So you can assume $X = D.$
– Will M.
yesterday
What is $D$ to begin with? And why it is not $X$?
– Will M.
yesterday
What is $D$ to begin with? And why it is not $X$?
– Will M.
yesterday
@WillM. I don’t think I understand your question. $D$ is defined in the statement of the theorem. It could be $X$, I suppose? But why would it necessarily be?
– Jane Doe
yesterday
@WillM. I don’t think I understand your question. $D$ is defined in the statement of the theorem. It could be $X$, I suppose? But why would it necessarily be?
– Jane Doe
yesterday
So, the author is actually assuming the measure space to be $(D, mathfrak{A})$?
– Will M.
yesterday
So, the author is actually assuming the measure space to be $(D, mathfrak{A})$?
– Will M.
yesterday
@WillM. No, $mathfrak{A}$ is a $sigma$-algebra of subsets of $X$ and $D in mathfrak{A}$ so $D subseteq X$.
– Jane Doe
yesterday
@WillM. No, $mathfrak{A}$ is a $sigma$-algebra of subsets of $X$ and $D in mathfrak{A}$ so $D subseteq X$.
– Jane Doe
yesterday
I'm pretty sure the author is just taking the measure space $(D, mathfrak{A}_D)$ where $mathfrak{A}_D$ is the trace of the sigma algebra on $D$ (that is, the measurable sets contained in $D$). So you can assume $X = D.$
– Will M.
yesterday
I'm pretty sure the author is just taking the measure space $(D, mathfrak{A}_D)$ where $mathfrak{A}_D$ is the trace of the sigma algebra on $D$ (that is, the measurable sets contained in $D$). So you can assume $X = D.$
– Will M.
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Although your question pertains to equation $(1)$, observe that the same assumption, namely that $D = (D setminus N) cup N$, is made earlier when defining $g$ on $D$ by defining it separately on $D setminus N$ and $N$.
You are right that the author is assuming that $N subset D$, and that this is not true from the way $N$ is defined. However, if we let $N' := N cap D$, then the same proof goes through with $N'$ in place of $N$. For instance, it is clear that $N' in mathfrak{A}$, $N' subset D$, $N'$ is a null set and $C_n subset B_n subset N'$. Note that you are not using the fact that $D$ is a complete measure space, you only need that $D, N in mathfrak{A}$ to conclude that $D cap N in mathfrak{A}$, etc.
So, we can take without loss of generality that $N$ is a subset of $D$. But the author should have mentioned this for the sake of clarity, in my opinion. Good catch.
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Although your question pertains to equation $(1)$, observe that the same assumption, namely that $D = (D setminus N) cup N$, is made earlier when defining $g$ on $D$ by defining it separately on $D setminus N$ and $N$.
You are right that the author is assuming that $N subset D$, and that this is not true from the way $N$ is defined. However, if we let $N' := N cap D$, then the same proof goes through with $N'$ in place of $N$. For instance, it is clear that $N' in mathfrak{A}$, $N' subset D$, $N'$ is a null set and $C_n subset B_n subset N'$. Note that you are not using the fact that $D$ is a complete measure space, you only need that $D, N in mathfrak{A}$ to conclude that $D cap N in mathfrak{A}$, etc.
So, we can take without loss of generality that $N$ is a subset of $D$. But the author should have mentioned this for the sake of clarity, in my opinion. Good catch.
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Although your question pertains to equation $(1)$, observe that the same assumption, namely that $D = (D setminus N) cup N$, is made earlier when defining $g$ on $D$ by defining it separately on $D setminus N$ and $N$.
You are right that the author is assuming that $N subset D$, and that this is not true from the way $N$ is defined. However, if we let $N' := N cap D$, then the same proof goes through with $N'$ in place of $N$. For instance, it is clear that $N' in mathfrak{A}$, $N' subset D$, $N'$ is a null set and $C_n subset B_n subset N'$. Note that you are not using the fact that $D$ is a complete measure space, you only need that $D, N in mathfrak{A}$ to conclude that $D cap N in mathfrak{A}$, etc.
So, we can take without loss of generality that $N$ is a subset of $D$. But the author should have mentioned this for the sake of clarity, in my opinion. Good catch.
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Although your question pertains to equation $(1)$, observe that the same assumption, namely that $D = (D setminus N) cup N$, is made earlier when defining $g$ on $D$ by defining it separately on $D setminus N$ and $N$.
You are right that the author is assuming that $N subset D$, and that this is not true from the way $N$ is defined. However, if we let $N' := N cap D$, then the same proof goes through with $N'$ in place of $N$. For instance, it is clear that $N' in mathfrak{A}$, $N' subset D$, $N'$ is a null set and $C_n subset B_n subset N'$. Note that you are not using the fact that $D$ is a complete measure space, you only need that $D, N in mathfrak{A}$ to conclude that $D cap N in mathfrak{A}$, etc.
So, we can take without loss of generality that $N$ is a subset of $D$. But the author should have mentioned this for the sake of clarity, in my opinion. Good catch.
Although your question pertains to equation $(1)$, observe that the same assumption, namely that $D = (D setminus N) cup N$, is made earlier when defining $g$ on $D$ by defining it separately on $D setminus N$ and $N$.
You are right that the author is assuming that $N subset D$, and that this is not true from the way $N$ is defined. However, if we let $N' := N cap D$, then the same proof goes through with $N'$ in place of $N$. For instance, it is clear that $N' in mathfrak{A}$, $N' subset D$, $N'$ is a null set and $C_n subset B_n subset N'$. Note that you are not using the fact that $D$ is a complete measure space, you only need that $D, N in mathfrak{A}$ to conclude that $D cap N in mathfrak{A}$, etc.
So, we can take without loss of generality that $N$ is a subset of $D$. But the author should have mentioned this for the sake of clarity, in my opinion. Good catch.
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What is $D$ to begin with? And why it is not $X$?
– Will M.
yesterday
@WillM. I don’t think I understand your question. $D$ is defined in the statement of the theorem. It could be $X$, I suppose? But why would it necessarily be?
– Jane Doe
yesterday
So, the author is actually assuming the measure space to be $(D, mathfrak{A})$?
– Will M.
yesterday
@WillM. No, $mathfrak{A}$ is a $sigma$-algebra of subsets of $X$ and $D in mathfrak{A}$ so $D subseteq X$.
– Jane Doe
yesterday
I'm pretty sure the author is just taking the measure space $(D, mathfrak{A}_D)$ where $mathfrak{A}_D$ is the trace of the sigma algebra on $D$ (that is, the measurable sets contained in $D$). So you can assume $X = D.$
– Will M.
yesterday