Controlling normal bulbs brightness using Sonoff devices
I am doing a home automation project in which I should be able to control the lights on/off but more than that, the brightness of the lights.
I am using Home Assistant (not hassbian) and Node-Red along with MQTT.
I am using a normal bulb I purchased from a hardware store connected to a Sonoff ESP8266 and am able to use Node-RED to trigger a on and off state but am unsure how to trigger the specific brightness level.
Is it possible to control the brightness of any normal light that is made into a 'smart light' through the use of Sonoff? Or must they be devices that have that functionality made into the light itself.
(same for any other appliances, such as things such like a normal portable fan made into a smart fan through ESP8266 and controlling its speed.)
mqtt esp8266 home-assistant node-red sonoff
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I am doing a home automation project in which I should be able to control the lights on/off but more than that, the brightness of the lights.
I am using Home Assistant (not hassbian) and Node-Red along with MQTT.
I am using a normal bulb I purchased from a hardware store connected to a Sonoff ESP8266 and am able to use Node-RED to trigger a on and off state but am unsure how to trigger the specific brightness level.
Is it possible to control the brightness of any normal light that is made into a 'smart light' through the use of Sonoff? Or must they be devices that have that functionality made into the light itself.
(same for any other appliances, such as things such like a normal portable fan made into a smart fan through ESP8266 and controlling its speed.)
mqtt esp8266 home-assistant node-red sonoff
edited Dec 23 '18 at 12:31
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I am doing a home automation project in which I should be able to control the lights on/off but more than that, the brightness of the lights.
I am using Home Assistant (not hassbian) and Node-Red along with MQTT.
I am using a normal bulb I purchased from a hardware store connected to a Sonoff ESP8266 and am able to use Node-RED to trigger a on and off state but am unsure how to trigger the specific brightness level.
Is it possible to control the brightness of any normal light that is made into a 'smart light' through the use of Sonoff? Or must they be devices that have that functionality made into the light itself.
(same for any other appliances, such as things such like a normal portable fan made into a smart fan through ESP8266 and controlling its speed.)
mqtt esp8266 home-assistant node-red sonoff
edited Dec 23 '18 at 12:31
Aurora0001♦
13.6k1041147
asked Dec 23 '18 at 10:15
Eric LimEric Lim
666
I am doing a home automation project in which I should be able to control the lights on/off but more than that, the brightness of the lights.
I am using Home Assistant (not hassbian) and Node-Red along with MQTT.
I am using a normal bulb I purchased from a hardware store connected to a Sonoff ESP8266 and am able to use Node-RED to trigger a on and off state but am unsure how to trigger the specific brightness level.
Is it possible to control the brightness of any normal light that is made into a 'smart light' through the use of Sonoff? Or must they be devices that have that functionality made into the light itself.
(same for any other appliances, such as things such like a normal portable fan made into a smart fan through ESP8266 and controlling its speed.)
mqtt esp8266 home-assistant node-red sonoff
mqtt esp8266 home-assistant node-red sonoff
edited Dec 23 '18 at 12:31
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asked Dec 23 '18 at 10:15
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edited Dec 23 '18 at 12:31
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No, you can't do that using Sonoff since it is an on-off switch with relay.
You need an Triac to do that. Normally the brightness control applications for AC will be done through Triac by changing the firing angle.
edited Jan 21 at 3:30
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answered Dec 23 '18 at 18:45
ElectronElectron
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Hi thanks for the suggestion on top of the answer! If I may ask, will the triac then enable me to control the brightness via nodered payload?
– Eric Lim
Dec 23 '18 at 19:51
Yes, you need to design a Triac based dimmer circuitry.
– Electron
Dec 23 '18 at 19:58
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No, most Sonoff devices are just remote controlled relays, they can only turn the power on or off.
You can not use them to dim lights.
answered Dec 23 '18 at 11:12
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There are devices made specially for dimming using only on-off impulses to set the brightness. A common pattern is to use a short on/off signal for on/off, and a longer on/off signal to increase brightness in n % steps.
So provided you can make the Sonoff switch on and off sufficiently fast, and reliably to get the timing right, adding a device like this or any other similar impulse switch with dimmer should work.
(Note that I'm not suggesting to pulse-width modulate it - the shortest impulse necessary is ~0,5 sec. The output remains as set, until it receives the next command signal).
answered Dec 23 '18 at 22:17
dlatikaydlatikay
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The Sonoff drive a relay, you really should not be driving these on/off quickly as you will just end up welding the contacts
– hardillb
Dec 23 '18 at 22:22
Please clarify that via edit in your answer. Future readers should not need to read the comments.
– Helmar♦
Dec 24 '18 at 0:19
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No, you can't do that using Sonoff since it is an on-off switch with relay.
You need an Triac to do that. Normally the brightness control applications for AC will be done through Triac by changing the firing angle.
edited Jan 21 at 3:30
user158
129128
answered Dec 23 '18 at 18:45
ElectronElectron
1863
Hi thanks for the suggestion on top of the answer! If I may ask, will the triac then enable me to control the brightness via nodered payload?
– Eric Lim
Dec 23 '18 at 19:51
Yes, you need to design a Triac based dimmer circuitry.
– Electron
Dec 23 '18 at 19:58
add a comment |
No, you can't do that using Sonoff since it is an on-off switch with relay.
You need an Triac to do that. Normally the brightness control applications for AC will be done through Triac by changing the firing angle.
edited Jan 21 at 3:30
user158
129128
answered Dec 23 '18 at 18:45
ElectronElectron
1863
Hi thanks for the suggestion on top of the answer! If I may ask, will the triac then enable me to control the brightness via nodered payload?
– Eric Lim
Dec 23 '18 at 19:51
Yes, you need to design a Triac based dimmer circuitry.
– Electron
Dec 23 '18 at 19:58
add a comment |
No, you can't do that using Sonoff since it is an on-off switch with relay.
You need an Triac to do that. Normally the brightness control applications for AC will be done through Triac by changing the firing angle.
edited Jan 21 at 3:30
user158
129128
answered Dec 23 '18 at 18:45
ElectronElectron
1863
No, you can't do that using Sonoff since it is an on-off switch with relay.
You need an Triac to do that. Normally the brightness control applications for AC will be done through Triac by changing the firing angle.
edited Jan 21 at 3:30
user158
129128
answered Dec 23 '18 at 18:45
ElectronElectron
1863
edited Jan 21 at 3:30
user158
129128
edited Jan 21 at 3:30
user158
129128
edited Jan 21 at 3:30
user158
129128
129128
answered Dec 23 '18 at 18:45
ElectronElectron
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answered Dec 23 '18 at 18:45
ElectronElectron
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answered Dec 23 '18 at 18:45
ElectronElectron
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Hi thanks for the suggestion on top of the answer! If I may ask, will the triac then enable me to control the brightness via nodered payload?
– Eric Lim
Dec 23 '18 at 19:51
Yes, you need to design a Triac based dimmer circuitry.
– Electron
Dec 23 '18 at 19:58
add a comment |
Hi thanks for the suggestion on top of the answer! If I may ask, will the triac then enable me to control the brightness via nodered payload?
– Eric Lim
Dec 23 '18 at 19:51
Yes, you need to design a Triac based dimmer circuitry.
– Electron
Dec 23 '18 at 19:58
Hi thanks for the suggestion on top of the answer! If I may ask, will the triac then enable me to control the brightness via nodered payload?
– Eric Lim
Dec 23 '18 at 19:51
Hi thanks for the suggestion on top of the answer! If I may ask, will the triac then enable me to control the brightness via nodered payload?
– Eric Lim
Dec 23 '18 at 19:51
Yes, you need to design a Triac based dimmer circuitry.
– Electron
Dec 23 '18 at 19:58
Yes, you need to design a Triac based dimmer circuitry.
– Electron
Dec 23 '18 at 19:58
add a comment |
No, most Sonoff devices are just remote controlled relays, they can only turn the power on or off.
You can not use them to dim lights.
answered Dec 23 '18 at 11:12
hardillbhardillb
6,8511827
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No, most Sonoff devices are just remote controlled relays, they can only turn the power on or off.
You can not use them to dim lights.
answered Dec 23 '18 at 11:12
hardillbhardillb
6,8511827
add a comment |
No, most Sonoff devices are just remote controlled relays, they can only turn the power on or off.
You can not use them to dim lights.
answered Dec 23 '18 at 11:12
hardillbhardillb
6,8511827
No, most Sonoff devices are just remote controlled relays, they can only turn the power on or off.
You can not use them to dim lights.
answered Dec 23 '18 at 11:12
hardillbhardillb
6,8511827
answered Dec 23 '18 at 11:12
hardillbhardillb
6,8511827
answered Dec 23 '18 at 11:12
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There are devices made specially for dimming using only on-off impulses to set the brightness. A common pattern is to use a short on/off signal for on/off, and a longer on/off signal to increase brightness in n % steps.
So provided you can make the Sonoff switch on and off sufficiently fast, and reliably to get the timing right, adding a device like this or any other similar impulse switch with dimmer should work.
(Note that I'm not suggesting to pulse-width modulate it - the shortest impulse necessary is ~0,5 sec. The output remains as set, until it receives the next command signal).
answered Dec 23 '18 at 22:17
dlatikaydlatikay
1213
The Sonoff drive a relay, you really should not be driving these on/off quickly as you will just end up welding the contacts
– hardillb
Dec 23 '18 at 22:22
Please clarify that via edit in your answer. Future readers should not need to read the comments.
– Helmar♦
Dec 24 '18 at 0:19
add a comment |
There are devices made specially for dimming using only on-off impulses to set the brightness. A common pattern is to use a short on/off signal for on/off, and a longer on/off signal to increase brightness in n % steps.
So provided you can make the Sonoff switch on and off sufficiently fast, and reliably to get the timing right, adding a device like this or any other similar impulse switch with dimmer should work.
(Note that I'm not suggesting to pulse-width modulate it - the shortest impulse necessary is ~0,5 sec. The output remains as set, until it receives the next command signal).
answered Dec 23 '18 at 22:17
dlatikaydlatikay
1213
The Sonoff drive a relay, you really should not be driving these on/off quickly as you will just end up welding the contacts
– hardillb
Dec 23 '18 at 22:22
Please clarify that via edit in your answer. Future readers should not need to read the comments.
– Helmar♦
Dec 24 '18 at 0:19
add a comment |
There are devices made specially for dimming using only on-off impulses to set the brightness. A common pattern is to use a short on/off signal for on/off, and a longer on/off signal to increase brightness in n % steps.
So provided you can make the Sonoff switch on and off sufficiently fast, and reliably to get the timing right, adding a device like this or any other similar impulse switch with dimmer should work.
(Note that I'm not suggesting to pulse-width modulate it - the shortest impulse necessary is ~0,5 sec. The output remains as set, until it receives the next command signal).
answered Dec 23 '18 at 22:17
dlatikaydlatikay
1213
There are devices made specially for dimming using only on-off impulses to set the brightness. A common pattern is to use a short on/off signal for on/off, and a longer on/off signal to increase brightness in n % steps.
So provided you can make the Sonoff switch on and off sufficiently fast, and reliably to get the timing right, adding a device like this or any other similar impulse switch with dimmer should work.
(Note that I'm not suggesting to pulse-width modulate it - the shortest impulse necessary is ~0,5 sec. The output remains as set, until it receives the next command signal).
answered Dec 23 '18 at 22:17
dlatikaydlatikay
1213
edited Dec 24 '18 at 8:43
answered Dec 23 '18 at 22:17
dlatikaydlatikay
1213
answered Dec 23 '18 at 22:17
dlatikaydlatikay
1213
answered Dec 23 '18 at 22:17
dlatikaydlatikay
1213
1213
The Sonoff drive a relay, you really should not be driving these on/off quickly as you will just end up welding the contacts
– hardillb
Dec 23 '18 at 22:22
Please clarify that via edit in your answer. Future readers should not need to read the comments.
– Helmar♦
Dec 24 '18 at 0:19
add a comment |
The Sonoff drive a relay, you really should not be driving these on/off quickly as you will just end up welding the contacts
– hardillb
Dec 23 '18 at 22:22
Please clarify that via edit in your answer. Future readers should not need to read the comments.
– Helmar♦
Dec 24 '18 at 0:19
The Sonoff drive a relay, you really should not be driving these on/off quickly as you will just end up welding the contacts
– hardillb
Dec 23 '18 at 22:22
The Sonoff drive a relay, you really should not be driving these on/off quickly as you will just end up welding the contacts
– hardillb
Dec 23 '18 at 22:22
Please clarify that via edit in your answer. Future readers should not need to read the comments.
– Helmar♦
Dec 24 '18 at 0:19
Please clarify that via edit in your answer. Future readers should not need to read the comments.
– Helmar♦
Dec 24 '18 at 0:19
add a comment |
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