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So, today we had a local contest in my state to find eligible people for the international math olympiad "IMO" ...



I was stuck with this very interesting algorithmic problem:



Let $n$ be a natural number ≥ 2, we take the biggest divisor of $n$ but it must be different from $n$ itself, subtract it from $n$. We repeat this until we get $1$.



Example: Let $n = 30$. Then we have to subtract its biggest different divisor, that is, 15. So 30 - 15 = 15, now we do the same:




  • 5 is the biggest divisor for 15, so 15 - 5 = 10

  • 5 is the biggest divisor for 10, so 10 - 5 = 5

  • 1 is the greatest divisor for 5, so 5 - 1 = 4

  • 2 is the biggest divisor for 4 so 4 - 2 = 2

  • 1 is the biggest divisor for 2, so 2 - 1 = 1 .


And we're done ! it took 6 steps to get 1.



If $n = 2016^{155}$ how many steps we have to get 1 at the end ?



I'm a programmer, and I used to rock with logical puzzles, but this time I'm completely lost. So please help me.










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So, today we had a local contest in my state to find eligible people for the international math olympiad "IMO" ...



I was stuck with this very interesting algorithmic problem:



Let $n$ be a natural number ≥ 2, we take the biggest divisor of $n$ but it must be different from $n$ itself, subtract it from $n$. We repeat this until we get $1$.



Example: Let $n = 30$. Then we have to subtract its biggest different divisor, that is, 15. So 30 - 15 = 15, now we do the same:




  • 5 is the biggest divisor for 15, so 15 - 5 = 10

  • 5 is the biggest divisor for 10, so 10 - 5 = 5

  • 1 is the greatest divisor for 5, so 5 - 1 = 4

  • 2 is the biggest divisor for 4 so 4 - 2 = 2

  • 1 is the biggest divisor for 2, so 2 - 1 = 1 .


And we're done ! it took 6 steps to get 1.



If $n = 2016^{155}$ how many steps we have to get 1 at the end ?



I'm a programmer, and I used to rock with logical puzzles, but this time I'm completely lost. So please help me.










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So, today we had a local contest in my state to find eligible people for the international math olympiad "IMO" ...



I was stuck with this very interesting algorithmic problem:



Let $n$ be a natural number ≥ 2, we take the biggest divisor of $n$ but it must be different from $n$ itself, subtract it from $n$. We repeat this until we get $1$.



Example: Let $n = 30$. Then we have to subtract its biggest different divisor, that is, 15. So 30 - 15 = 15, now we do the same:




  • 5 is the biggest divisor for 15, so 15 - 5 = 10

  • 5 is the biggest divisor for 10, so 10 - 5 = 5

  • 1 is the greatest divisor for 5, so 5 - 1 = 4

  • 2 is the biggest divisor for 4 so 4 - 2 = 2

  • 1 is the biggest divisor for 2, so 2 - 1 = 1 .


And we're done ! it took 6 steps to get 1.



If $n = 2016^{155}$ how many steps we have to get 1 at the end ?



I'm a programmer, and I used to rock with logical puzzles, but this time I'm completely lost. So please help me.










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So, today we had a local contest in my state to find eligible people for the international math olympiad "IMO" ...



I was stuck with this very interesting algorithmic problem:



Let $n$ be a natural number ≥ 2, we take the biggest divisor of $n$ but it must be different from $n$ itself, subtract it from $n$. We repeat this until we get $1$.



Example: Let $n = 30$. Then we have to subtract its biggest different divisor, that is, 15. So 30 - 15 = 15, now we do the same:




  • 5 is the biggest divisor for 15, so 15 - 5 = 10

  • 5 is the biggest divisor for 10, so 10 - 5 = 5

  • 1 is the greatest divisor for 5, so 5 - 1 = 4

  • 2 is the biggest divisor for 4 so 4 - 2 = 2

  • 1 is the biggest divisor for 2, so 2 - 1 = 1 .


And we're done ! it took 6 steps to get 1.



If $n = 2016^{155}$ how many steps we have to get 1 at the end ?



I'm a programmer, and I used to rock with logical puzzles, but this time I'm completely lost. So please help me.







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    The biggest divisor of $2x$ is always $x$.
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    I'd love if you could write an answer explaining your solution in a well and detailed way . (please don't use those fancy math symbols, I'm still at high school, and we didn't learn yet about them ) .
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    May 7 '16 at 17:46






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Firstly, note that: $$n=2^{775}3^{310}7^{155}$$



Let the number of steps to get from $x$ to $1$ be $f(x)$.





Then, note that the biggest divisor of $2x$ is always $x$.



Therefore: $$f(2x)=f(x)+1$$



For example: $$f(30)=f(15)+1$$



Applying to here: $$f(n)=f(3^{310}7^{155})+775$$





Now, when $x$ is not divisible by $2$, the biggest divisor of $3x$ is always $x$.



Therefore: $$f(3x)=f(3x-x)+1=f(2x)+1=f(x)+2$$



For example: $$f(15)=f(5)+2$$



Applying to here: $$f(n)=f(7^{155})+2times310+775=f(7^{155})+1395$$





Now, where $x$ is not divisible by $2$, $3$, or $5$, the biggest divisor of $7x$ is always $x$.



Therefore: $$f(7x)=f(6x)+1=f(3x)+2=f(x)+4$$



For example: $$f(77)=f(11)+4$$



Applying to here: $$f(n)=f(1)+4times155+1395=2015$$





Is it just a coincidence?





Extra:



I wrote a program in Pyth to confirm this (takes a while to calculate).



This is for smaller numbers.



I used this to generate $f(x)$ for $x$ from $1$ to $100$.



A quick search returns OEIS A064097.






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$2016 = 2 * 2 * 2 * 2 * 2 * 3 * 3 * 7$ . Therefore



$2016^{155} = 2^{775} · 3^{310} ·7^{155}$



Now ask yourself: What's the biggest factor of $2^{775}· 3^{310} ·7^{155}$? Obviously it's $2^{774} ·3^{310} ·7^{155}$. Subtract from the original number, and $2^{774}· 3^{310} ·7^{155}$ remains. The same thing will happen exactly $775 $ times, and then you will be left with $3^{310} ·7^{155}$ after $775$ subtractions.



What's the biggest factor of $3^{310}· 7^{155}$? The biggest factor is $3^{309} ·7^{155}$. Subtract this and the remainder is $2 · 3^{309} ·7^{155}$. That again has the largest factor $3^{309} ·7^{155}$. Subtract this again and the remainder is $3^{309} ·7^{155}$. With two subtractions we divided by $3$ . We repeat $310$ times for a total of $620$ subtractions and the remainder is $7^{155}$.



Now the largest divisor is $7^{154}$; subtracting this leaves $6 · 7^{154}$. Now the largest factor is $3 · 7^{154}$ leaving $3 · 7^{154}$. Then the largest factor is again $7^{154}$, leaving first $2 · 7^{154}$ then $7^{154}$. $4$ subtractions to divide by $7$ . We repeat a total of $155$ times, for $620 $subtractions, arriving at $1$ . In Total $775 + 620 + 620 = 2015 $ subtractions.






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    Note that $(2016)^{155} = 2^{775} cdot 3^{310} cdot 7^{155}$.



    For the first step, we subtract by $2^{774} cdot 3^{310} cdot 7^{155}$ since this is the largest non-trivial divisor.



    This gives $2016^{155} - frac{1}{2} 2016^{155} = frac{1}{2} 2016^{155}$. We repeat this for the first $775$ steps until we have just $3^{310} cdot 7^{155}$.



    Now, the largest divisor is $3^{309} cdot 7^{155}$. We subtract now to get $2 cdot 3^{309} cdot 7^{155}$. The largest divisor of this is now $3^{309} cdot 7^{155}$, and subtracting from our result gives $3^{309} cdot 7^{155}$. It's clear that to get rid of all the threes, we take $2 cdot 310$ steps.



    Finally, now we just have $7^{155}$. It takes $4$ steps to turn this into $7^{154}$ (namely $7$ becomes $6$, $6$ becomes $3$, $3$ becomes $2$, and $2$ becomes $1$) so it takes $4 cdot 155$ more steps to become $1$.



    All in all, this is $2015$ steps.





    Remark. The generalization here is clear.



    If $n = p_1^{e_1} p_2^{e_2} dots p_n^{e_n}$ then $f(n) = e_1 f(p_1) + e_2 f(p_2) + ldots + e_n f(p_n)$.






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    Firstly, note that: $$n=2^{775}3^{310}7^{155}$$



    Let the number of steps to get from $x$ to $1$ be $f(x)$.





    Then, note that the biggest divisor of $2x$ is always $x$.



    Therefore: $$f(2x)=f(x)+1$$



    For example: $$f(30)=f(15)+1$$



    Applying to here: $$f(n)=f(3^{310}7^{155})+775$$





    Now, when $x$ is not divisible by $2$, the biggest divisor of $3x$ is always $x$.



    Therefore: $$f(3x)=f(3x-x)+1=f(2x)+1=f(x)+2$$



    For example: $$f(15)=f(5)+2$$



    Applying to here: $$f(n)=f(7^{155})+2times310+775=f(7^{155})+1395$$





    Now, where $x$ is not divisible by $2$, $3$, or $5$, the biggest divisor of $7x$ is always $x$.



    Therefore: $$f(7x)=f(6x)+1=f(3x)+2=f(x)+4$$



    For example: $$f(77)=f(11)+4$$



    Applying to here: $$f(n)=f(1)+4times155+1395=2015$$





    Is it just a coincidence?





    Extra:



    I wrote a program in Pyth to confirm this (takes a while to calculate).



    This is for smaller numbers.



    I used this to generate $f(x)$ for $x$ from $1$ to $100$.



    A quick search returns OEIS A064097.






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    Firstly, note that: $$n=2^{775}3^{310}7^{155}$$



    Let the number of steps to get from $x$ to $1$ be $f(x)$.





    Then, note that the biggest divisor of $2x$ is always $x$.



    Therefore: $$f(2x)=f(x)+1$$



    For example: $$f(30)=f(15)+1$$



    Applying to here: $$f(n)=f(3^{310}7^{155})+775$$





    Now, when $x$ is not divisible by $2$, the biggest divisor of $3x$ is always $x$.



    Therefore: $$f(3x)=f(3x-x)+1=f(2x)+1=f(x)+2$$



    For example: $$f(15)=f(5)+2$$



    Applying to here: $$f(n)=f(7^{155})+2times310+775=f(7^{155})+1395$$





    Now, where $x$ is not divisible by $2$, $3$, or $5$, the biggest divisor of $7x$ is always $x$.



    Therefore: $$f(7x)=f(6x)+1=f(3x)+2=f(x)+4$$



    For example: $$f(77)=f(11)+4$$



    Applying to here: $$f(n)=f(1)+4times155+1395=2015$$





    Is it just a coincidence?





    Extra:



    I wrote a program in Pyth to confirm this (takes a while to calculate).



    This is for smaller numbers.



    I used this to generate $f(x)$ for $x$ from $1$ to $100$.



    A quick search returns OEIS A064097.






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      +1 For the clear explanation. And wow a program in Pyth. At first I thought it was a typo for Python, but then... Until now I had only seen it on codegolf.SE!
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    Firstly, note that: $$n=2^{775}3^{310}7^{155}$$



    Let the number of steps to get from $x$ to $1$ be $f(x)$.





    Then, note that the biggest divisor of $2x$ is always $x$.



    Therefore: $$f(2x)=f(x)+1$$



    For example: $$f(30)=f(15)+1$$



    Applying to here: $$f(n)=f(3^{310}7^{155})+775$$





    Now, when $x$ is not divisible by $2$, the biggest divisor of $3x$ is always $x$.



    Therefore: $$f(3x)=f(3x-x)+1=f(2x)+1=f(x)+2$$



    For example: $$f(15)=f(5)+2$$



    Applying to here: $$f(n)=f(7^{155})+2times310+775=f(7^{155})+1395$$





    Now, where $x$ is not divisible by $2$, $3$, or $5$, the biggest divisor of $7x$ is always $x$.



    Therefore: $$f(7x)=f(6x)+1=f(3x)+2=f(x)+4$$



    For example: $$f(77)=f(11)+4$$



    Applying to here: $$f(n)=f(1)+4times155+1395=2015$$





    Is it just a coincidence?





    Extra:



    I wrote a program in Pyth to confirm this (takes a while to calculate).



    This is for smaller numbers.



    I used this to generate $f(x)$ for $x$ from $1$ to $100$.



    A quick search returns OEIS A064097.






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    Firstly, note that: $$n=2^{775}3^{310}7^{155}$$



    Let the number of steps to get from $x$ to $1$ be $f(x)$.





    Then, note that the biggest divisor of $2x$ is always $x$.



    Therefore: $$f(2x)=f(x)+1$$



    For example: $$f(30)=f(15)+1$$



    Applying to here: $$f(n)=f(3^{310}7^{155})+775$$





    Now, when $x$ is not divisible by $2$, the biggest divisor of $3x$ is always $x$.



    Therefore: $$f(3x)=f(3x-x)+1=f(2x)+1=f(x)+2$$



    For example: $$f(15)=f(5)+2$$



    Applying to here: $$f(n)=f(7^{155})+2times310+775=f(7^{155})+1395$$





    Now, where $x$ is not divisible by $2$, $3$, or $5$, the biggest divisor of $7x$ is always $x$.



    Therefore: $$f(7x)=f(6x)+1=f(3x)+2=f(x)+4$$



    For example: $$f(77)=f(11)+4$$



    Applying to here: $$f(n)=f(1)+4times155+1395=2015$$





    Is it just a coincidence?





    Extra:



    I wrote a program in Pyth to confirm this (takes a while to calculate).



    This is for smaller numbers.



    I used this to generate $f(x)$ for $x$ from $1$ to $100$.



    A quick search returns OEIS A064097.







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      +1 For the clear explanation. And wow a program in Pyth. At first I thought it was a typo for Python, but then... Until now I had only seen it on codegolf.SE!
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      – rubik
      May 8 '16 at 6:56






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      What the heck is that program
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      – YoTengoUnLCD
      May 10 '16 at 4:15






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      @YoTengoUnLCD That's nothing :) This program does the exact same thing with significantly less readability!
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      – caird coinheringaahing
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      @cairdcoinheringaahing but mine actually finishes...
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    • 9




      $begingroup$
      +1 For the clear explanation. And wow a program in Pyth. At first I thought it was a typo for Python, but then... Until now I had only seen it on codegolf.SE!
      $endgroup$
      – rubik
      May 8 '16 at 6:56






    • 5




      $begingroup$
      What the heck is that program
      $endgroup$
      – YoTengoUnLCD
      May 10 '16 at 4:15






    • 1




      $begingroup$
      @YoTengoUnLCD That's nothing :) This program does the exact same thing with significantly less readability!
      $endgroup$
      – caird coinheringaahing
      Apr 12 '18 at 23:29






    • 1




      $begingroup$
      @cairdcoinheringaahing but mine actually finishes...
      $endgroup$
      – Kenny Lau
      Apr 13 '18 at 1:38








    9




    9




    $begingroup$
    +1 For the clear explanation. And wow a program in Pyth. At first I thought it was a typo for Python, but then... Until now I had only seen it on codegolf.SE!
    $endgroup$
    – rubik
    May 8 '16 at 6:56




    $begingroup$
    +1 For the clear explanation. And wow a program in Pyth. At first I thought it was a typo for Python, but then... Until now I had only seen it on codegolf.SE!
    $endgroup$
    – rubik
    May 8 '16 at 6:56




    5




    5




    $begingroup$
    What the heck is that program
    $endgroup$
    – YoTengoUnLCD
    May 10 '16 at 4:15




    $begingroup$
    What the heck is that program
    $endgroup$
    – YoTengoUnLCD
    May 10 '16 at 4:15




    1




    1




    $begingroup$
    @YoTengoUnLCD That's nothing :) This program does the exact same thing with significantly less readability!
    $endgroup$
    – caird coinheringaahing
    Apr 12 '18 at 23:29




    $begingroup$
    @YoTengoUnLCD That's nothing :) This program does the exact same thing with significantly less readability!
    $endgroup$
    – caird coinheringaahing
    Apr 12 '18 at 23:29




    1




    1




    $begingroup$
    @cairdcoinheringaahing but mine actually finishes...
    $endgroup$
    – Kenny Lau
    Apr 13 '18 at 1:38




    $begingroup$
    @cairdcoinheringaahing but mine actually finishes...
    $endgroup$
    – Kenny Lau
    Apr 13 '18 at 1:38











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    $2016 = 2 * 2 * 2 * 2 * 2 * 3 * 3 * 7$ . Therefore



    $2016^{155} = 2^{775} · 3^{310} ·7^{155}$



    Now ask yourself: What's the biggest factor of $2^{775}· 3^{310} ·7^{155}$? Obviously it's $2^{774} ·3^{310} ·7^{155}$. Subtract from the original number, and $2^{774}· 3^{310} ·7^{155}$ remains. The same thing will happen exactly $775 $ times, and then you will be left with $3^{310} ·7^{155}$ after $775$ subtractions.



    What's the biggest factor of $3^{310}· 7^{155}$? The biggest factor is $3^{309} ·7^{155}$. Subtract this and the remainder is $2 · 3^{309} ·7^{155}$. That again has the largest factor $3^{309} ·7^{155}$. Subtract this again and the remainder is $3^{309} ·7^{155}$. With two subtractions we divided by $3$ . We repeat $310$ times for a total of $620$ subtractions and the remainder is $7^{155}$.



    Now the largest divisor is $7^{154}$; subtracting this leaves $6 · 7^{154}$. Now the largest factor is $3 · 7^{154}$ leaving $3 · 7^{154}$. Then the largest factor is again $7^{154}$, leaving first $2 · 7^{154}$ then $7^{154}$. $4$ subtractions to divide by $7$ . We repeat a total of $155$ times, for $620 $subtractions, arriving at $1$ . In Total $775 + 620 + 620 = 2015 $ subtractions.






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      14












      $begingroup$

      $2016 = 2 * 2 * 2 * 2 * 2 * 3 * 3 * 7$ . Therefore



      $2016^{155} = 2^{775} · 3^{310} ·7^{155}$



      Now ask yourself: What's the biggest factor of $2^{775}· 3^{310} ·7^{155}$? Obviously it's $2^{774} ·3^{310} ·7^{155}$. Subtract from the original number, and $2^{774}· 3^{310} ·7^{155}$ remains. The same thing will happen exactly $775 $ times, and then you will be left with $3^{310} ·7^{155}$ after $775$ subtractions.



      What's the biggest factor of $3^{310}· 7^{155}$? The biggest factor is $3^{309} ·7^{155}$. Subtract this and the remainder is $2 · 3^{309} ·7^{155}$. That again has the largest factor $3^{309} ·7^{155}$. Subtract this again and the remainder is $3^{309} ·7^{155}$. With two subtractions we divided by $3$ . We repeat $310$ times for a total of $620$ subtractions and the remainder is $7^{155}$.



      Now the largest divisor is $7^{154}$; subtracting this leaves $6 · 7^{154}$. Now the largest factor is $3 · 7^{154}$ leaving $3 · 7^{154}$. Then the largest factor is again $7^{154}$, leaving first $2 · 7^{154}$ then $7^{154}$. $4$ subtractions to divide by $7$ . We repeat a total of $155$ times, for $620 $subtractions, arriving at $1$ . In Total $775 + 620 + 620 = 2015 $ subtractions.






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        14












        14








        14





        $begingroup$

        $2016 = 2 * 2 * 2 * 2 * 2 * 3 * 3 * 7$ . Therefore



        $2016^{155} = 2^{775} · 3^{310} ·7^{155}$



        Now ask yourself: What's the biggest factor of $2^{775}· 3^{310} ·7^{155}$? Obviously it's $2^{774} ·3^{310} ·7^{155}$. Subtract from the original number, and $2^{774}· 3^{310} ·7^{155}$ remains. The same thing will happen exactly $775 $ times, and then you will be left with $3^{310} ·7^{155}$ after $775$ subtractions.



        What's the biggest factor of $3^{310}· 7^{155}$? The biggest factor is $3^{309} ·7^{155}$. Subtract this and the remainder is $2 · 3^{309} ·7^{155}$. That again has the largest factor $3^{309} ·7^{155}$. Subtract this again and the remainder is $3^{309} ·7^{155}$. With two subtractions we divided by $3$ . We repeat $310$ times for a total of $620$ subtractions and the remainder is $7^{155}$.



        Now the largest divisor is $7^{154}$; subtracting this leaves $6 · 7^{154}$. Now the largest factor is $3 · 7^{154}$ leaving $3 · 7^{154}$. Then the largest factor is again $7^{154}$, leaving first $2 · 7^{154}$ then $7^{154}$. $4$ subtractions to divide by $7$ . We repeat a total of $155$ times, for $620 $subtractions, arriving at $1$ . In Total $775 + 620 + 620 = 2015 $ subtractions.






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        $endgroup$



        $2016 = 2 * 2 * 2 * 2 * 2 * 3 * 3 * 7$ . Therefore



        $2016^{155} = 2^{775} · 3^{310} ·7^{155}$



        Now ask yourself: What's the biggest factor of $2^{775}· 3^{310} ·7^{155}$? Obviously it's $2^{774} ·3^{310} ·7^{155}$. Subtract from the original number, and $2^{774}· 3^{310} ·7^{155}$ remains. The same thing will happen exactly $775 $ times, and then you will be left with $3^{310} ·7^{155}$ after $775$ subtractions.



        What's the biggest factor of $3^{310}· 7^{155}$? The biggest factor is $3^{309} ·7^{155}$. Subtract this and the remainder is $2 · 3^{309} ·7^{155}$. That again has the largest factor $3^{309} ·7^{155}$. Subtract this again and the remainder is $3^{309} ·7^{155}$. With two subtractions we divided by $3$ . We repeat $310$ times for a total of $620$ subtractions and the remainder is $7^{155}$.



        Now the largest divisor is $7^{154}$; subtracting this leaves $6 · 7^{154}$. Now the largest factor is $3 · 7^{154}$ leaving $3 · 7^{154}$. Then the largest factor is again $7^{154}$, leaving first $2 · 7^{154}$ then $7^{154}$. $4$ subtractions to divide by $7$ . We repeat a total of $155$ times, for $620 $subtractions, arriving at $1$ . In Total $775 + 620 + 620 = 2015 $ subtractions.







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        edited Dec 31 '18 at 9:52









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        answered May 7 '16 at 21:51









        gnasher729gnasher729

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            8












            $begingroup$

            Note that $(2016)^{155} = 2^{775} cdot 3^{310} cdot 7^{155}$.



            For the first step, we subtract by $2^{774} cdot 3^{310} cdot 7^{155}$ since this is the largest non-trivial divisor.



            This gives $2016^{155} - frac{1}{2} 2016^{155} = frac{1}{2} 2016^{155}$. We repeat this for the first $775$ steps until we have just $3^{310} cdot 7^{155}$.



            Now, the largest divisor is $3^{309} cdot 7^{155}$. We subtract now to get $2 cdot 3^{309} cdot 7^{155}$. The largest divisor of this is now $3^{309} cdot 7^{155}$, and subtracting from our result gives $3^{309} cdot 7^{155}$. It's clear that to get rid of all the threes, we take $2 cdot 310$ steps.



            Finally, now we just have $7^{155}$. It takes $4$ steps to turn this into $7^{154}$ (namely $7$ becomes $6$, $6$ becomes $3$, $3$ becomes $2$, and $2$ becomes $1$) so it takes $4 cdot 155$ more steps to become $1$.



            All in all, this is $2015$ steps.





            Remark. The generalization here is clear.



            If $n = p_1^{e_1} p_2^{e_2} dots p_n^{e_n}$ then $f(n) = e_1 f(p_1) + e_2 f(p_2) + ldots + e_n f(p_n)$.






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            • $begingroup$
              Your generalization is incorrect for $f(6)$, because $f(6) = f(2) cdot f(3) = 1 cdot 2 = 2$, but the correct answer is 3 (6 -> 3 -> 2 -> 1).
              $endgroup$
              – orlp
              May 9 '16 at 23:00










            • $begingroup$
              @orlp Oops, they should be $+$s, not $cdot$s.
              $endgroup$
              – MCT
              May 10 '16 at 3:28
















            8












            $begingroup$

            Note that $(2016)^{155} = 2^{775} cdot 3^{310} cdot 7^{155}$.



            For the first step, we subtract by $2^{774} cdot 3^{310} cdot 7^{155}$ since this is the largest non-trivial divisor.



            This gives $2016^{155} - frac{1}{2} 2016^{155} = frac{1}{2} 2016^{155}$. We repeat this for the first $775$ steps until we have just $3^{310} cdot 7^{155}$.



            Now, the largest divisor is $3^{309} cdot 7^{155}$. We subtract now to get $2 cdot 3^{309} cdot 7^{155}$. The largest divisor of this is now $3^{309} cdot 7^{155}$, and subtracting from our result gives $3^{309} cdot 7^{155}$. It's clear that to get rid of all the threes, we take $2 cdot 310$ steps.



            Finally, now we just have $7^{155}$. It takes $4$ steps to turn this into $7^{154}$ (namely $7$ becomes $6$, $6$ becomes $3$, $3$ becomes $2$, and $2$ becomes $1$) so it takes $4 cdot 155$ more steps to become $1$.



            All in all, this is $2015$ steps.





            Remark. The generalization here is clear.



            If $n = p_1^{e_1} p_2^{e_2} dots p_n^{e_n}$ then $f(n) = e_1 f(p_1) + e_2 f(p_2) + ldots + e_n f(p_n)$.






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            • $begingroup$
              Your generalization is incorrect for $f(6)$, because $f(6) = f(2) cdot f(3) = 1 cdot 2 = 2$, but the correct answer is 3 (6 -> 3 -> 2 -> 1).
              $endgroup$
              – orlp
              May 9 '16 at 23:00










            • $begingroup$
              @orlp Oops, they should be $+$s, not $cdot$s.
              $endgroup$
              – MCT
              May 10 '16 at 3:28














            8












            8








            8





            $begingroup$

            Note that $(2016)^{155} = 2^{775} cdot 3^{310} cdot 7^{155}$.



            For the first step, we subtract by $2^{774} cdot 3^{310} cdot 7^{155}$ since this is the largest non-trivial divisor.



            This gives $2016^{155} - frac{1}{2} 2016^{155} = frac{1}{2} 2016^{155}$. We repeat this for the first $775$ steps until we have just $3^{310} cdot 7^{155}$.



            Now, the largest divisor is $3^{309} cdot 7^{155}$. We subtract now to get $2 cdot 3^{309} cdot 7^{155}$. The largest divisor of this is now $3^{309} cdot 7^{155}$, and subtracting from our result gives $3^{309} cdot 7^{155}$. It's clear that to get rid of all the threes, we take $2 cdot 310$ steps.



            Finally, now we just have $7^{155}$. It takes $4$ steps to turn this into $7^{154}$ (namely $7$ becomes $6$, $6$ becomes $3$, $3$ becomes $2$, and $2$ becomes $1$) so it takes $4 cdot 155$ more steps to become $1$.



            All in all, this is $2015$ steps.





            Remark. The generalization here is clear.



            If $n = p_1^{e_1} p_2^{e_2} dots p_n^{e_n}$ then $f(n) = e_1 f(p_1) + e_2 f(p_2) + ldots + e_n f(p_n)$.






            share|cite|improve this answer











            $endgroup$



            Note that $(2016)^{155} = 2^{775} cdot 3^{310} cdot 7^{155}$.



            For the first step, we subtract by $2^{774} cdot 3^{310} cdot 7^{155}$ since this is the largest non-trivial divisor.



            This gives $2016^{155} - frac{1}{2} 2016^{155} = frac{1}{2} 2016^{155}$. We repeat this for the first $775$ steps until we have just $3^{310} cdot 7^{155}$.



            Now, the largest divisor is $3^{309} cdot 7^{155}$. We subtract now to get $2 cdot 3^{309} cdot 7^{155}$. The largest divisor of this is now $3^{309} cdot 7^{155}$, and subtracting from our result gives $3^{309} cdot 7^{155}$. It's clear that to get rid of all the threes, we take $2 cdot 310$ steps.



            Finally, now we just have $7^{155}$. It takes $4$ steps to turn this into $7^{154}$ (namely $7$ becomes $6$, $6$ becomes $3$, $3$ becomes $2$, and $2$ becomes $1$) so it takes $4 cdot 155$ more steps to become $1$.



            All in all, this is $2015$ steps.





            Remark. The generalization here is clear.



            If $n = p_1^{e_1} p_2^{e_2} dots p_n^{e_n}$ then $f(n) = e_1 f(p_1) + e_2 f(p_2) + ldots + e_n f(p_n)$.







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            answered May 7 '16 at 18:01









            MCTMCT

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            • $begingroup$
              Your generalization is incorrect for $f(6)$, because $f(6) = f(2) cdot f(3) = 1 cdot 2 = 2$, but the correct answer is 3 (6 -> 3 -> 2 -> 1).
              $endgroup$
              – orlp
              May 9 '16 at 23:00










            • $begingroup$
              @orlp Oops, they should be $+$s, not $cdot$s.
              $endgroup$
              – MCT
              May 10 '16 at 3:28


















            • $begingroup$
              Your generalization is incorrect for $f(6)$, because $f(6) = f(2) cdot f(3) = 1 cdot 2 = 2$, but the correct answer is 3 (6 -> 3 -> 2 -> 1).
              $endgroup$
              – orlp
              May 9 '16 at 23:00










            • $begingroup$
              @orlp Oops, they should be $+$s, not $cdot$s.
              $endgroup$
              – MCT
              May 10 '16 at 3:28
















            $begingroup$
            Your generalization is incorrect for $f(6)$, because $f(6) = f(2) cdot f(3) = 1 cdot 2 = 2$, but the correct answer is 3 (6 -> 3 -> 2 -> 1).
            $endgroup$
            – orlp
            May 9 '16 at 23:00




            $begingroup$
            Your generalization is incorrect for $f(6)$, because $f(6) = f(2) cdot f(3) = 1 cdot 2 = 2$, but the correct answer is 3 (6 -> 3 -> 2 -> 1).
            $endgroup$
            – orlp
            May 9 '16 at 23:00












            $begingroup$
            @orlp Oops, they should be $+$s, not $cdot$s.
            $endgroup$
            – MCT
            May 10 '16 at 3:28




            $begingroup$
            @orlp Oops, they should be $+$s, not $cdot$s.
            $endgroup$
            – MCT
            May 10 '16 at 3:28


















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