Is it true that any injective function $f: mathbb{R} to mathbb{R}$ is strictly monotone?
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Is it true that any injective function $f: mathbb{R} to mathbb{R}$ is strictly monotone?
If yes, how do I prove it? If not, are there any examples of functions that disprove this statement.
I was thinking of $f(x) = {frac1x}$, which disproves this statement. But I'm not really sure.
Thanks for the help in advance.
real-analysis
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Is it true that any injective function $f: mathbb{R} to mathbb{R}$ is strictly monotone?
If yes, how do I prove it? If not, are there any examples of functions that disprove this statement.
I was thinking of $f(x) = {frac1x}$, which disproves this statement. But I'm not really sure.
Thanks for the help in advance.
real-analysis
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You need connectedness of the domain. Your counter is not defined at 0
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– PSG
Nov 20 '18 at 4:59
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There are non-continuous examples.
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– Lord Shark the Unknown
Nov 20 '18 at 5:00
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You also need that the function be continuous. Your counterexample is continuous, but the first comment applies. However, if you define $f(0)=0$ in your counterexample, it now works.
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– Jean-Claude Arbaut
Nov 20 '18 at 5:00
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Let $f(0)=1,f(1)=0$, and $f(x)=x$ otherwise.
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– Rahul
Nov 20 '18 at 5:02
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Since $f(x)=1/x$ is undefined at $0$, you can decide to give it any value you wish. Of course this is another function (it's not simply $xto1/x$ anymore). That is, the new $f$ is defined on $Bbb R$ to be $f(x)=1/x$ if $xne0$, and $f(0)=0$. This one is defined on $Bbb R$ but discontinuous, whereas your original example was defined on $Bbb Rbackslash{0}$ and continuous.
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Is it true that any injective function $f: mathbb{R} to mathbb{R}$ is strictly monotone?
If yes, how do I prove it? If not, are there any examples of functions that disprove this statement.
I was thinking of $f(x) = {frac1x}$, which disproves this statement. But I'm not really sure.
Thanks for the help in advance.
real-analysis
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Is it true that any injective function $f: mathbb{R} to mathbb{R}$ is strictly monotone?
If yes, how do I prove it? If not, are there any examples of functions that disprove this statement.
I was thinking of $f(x) = {frac1x}$, which disproves this statement. But I'm not really sure.
Thanks for the help in advance.
real-analysis
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edited Nov 20 '18 at 5:08
Jean-Claude Arbaut
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You need connectedness of the domain. Your counter is not defined at 0
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– PSG
Nov 20 '18 at 4:59
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There are non-continuous examples.
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– Lord Shark the Unknown
Nov 20 '18 at 5:00
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You also need that the function be continuous. Your counterexample is continuous, but the first comment applies. However, if you define $f(0)=0$ in your counterexample, it now works.
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– Jean-Claude Arbaut
Nov 20 '18 at 5:00
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Let $f(0)=1,f(1)=0$, and $f(x)=x$ otherwise.
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– Rahul
Nov 20 '18 at 5:02
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Since $f(x)=1/x$ is undefined at $0$, you can decide to give it any value you wish. Of course this is another function (it's not simply $xto1/x$ anymore). That is, the new $f$ is defined on $Bbb R$ to be $f(x)=1/x$ if $xne0$, and $f(0)=0$. This one is defined on $Bbb R$ but discontinuous, whereas your original example was defined on $Bbb Rbackslash{0}$ and continuous.
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– Jean-Claude Arbaut
Nov 20 '18 at 5:11
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You need connectedness of the domain. Your counter is not defined at 0
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– PSG
Nov 20 '18 at 4:59
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There are non-continuous examples.
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– Lord Shark the Unknown
Nov 20 '18 at 5:00
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You also need that the function be continuous. Your counterexample is continuous, but the first comment applies. However, if you define $f(0)=0$ in your counterexample, it now works.
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– Jean-Claude Arbaut
Nov 20 '18 at 5:00
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Let $f(0)=1,f(1)=0$, and $f(x)=x$ otherwise.
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– Rahul
Nov 20 '18 at 5:02
1
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Since $f(x)=1/x$ is undefined at $0$, you can decide to give it any value you wish. Of course this is another function (it's not simply $xto1/x$ anymore). That is, the new $f$ is defined on $Bbb R$ to be $f(x)=1/x$ if $xne0$, and $f(0)=0$. This one is defined on $Bbb R$ but discontinuous, whereas your original example was defined on $Bbb Rbackslash{0}$ and continuous.
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– Jean-Claude Arbaut
Nov 20 '18 at 5:11
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You need connectedness of the domain. Your counter is not defined at 0
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– PSG
Nov 20 '18 at 4:59
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You need connectedness of the domain. Your counter is not defined at 0
$endgroup$
– PSG
Nov 20 '18 at 4:59
1
1
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There are non-continuous examples.
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– Lord Shark the Unknown
Nov 20 '18 at 5:00
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There are non-continuous examples.
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– Lord Shark the Unknown
Nov 20 '18 at 5:00
1
1
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You also need that the function be continuous. Your counterexample is continuous, but the first comment applies. However, if you define $f(0)=0$ in your counterexample, it now works.
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– Jean-Claude Arbaut
Nov 20 '18 at 5:00
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You also need that the function be continuous. Your counterexample is continuous, but the first comment applies. However, if you define $f(0)=0$ in your counterexample, it now works.
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– Jean-Claude Arbaut
Nov 20 '18 at 5:00
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3
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Let $f(0)=1,f(1)=0$, and $f(x)=x$ otherwise.
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– Rahul
Nov 20 '18 at 5:02
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Let $f(0)=1,f(1)=0$, and $f(x)=x$ otherwise.
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– Rahul
Nov 20 '18 at 5:02
1
1
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Since $f(x)=1/x$ is undefined at $0$, you can decide to give it any value you wish. Of course this is another function (it's not simply $xto1/x$ anymore). That is, the new $f$ is defined on $Bbb R$ to be $f(x)=1/x$ if $xne0$, and $f(0)=0$. This one is defined on $Bbb R$ but discontinuous, whereas your original example was defined on $Bbb Rbackslash{0}$ and continuous.
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– Jean-Claude Arbaut
Nov 20 '18 at 5:11
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Since $f(x)=1/x$ is undefined at $0$, you can decide to give it any value you wish. Of course this is another function (it's not simply $xto1/x$ anymore). That is, the new $f$ is defined on $Bbb R$ to be $f(x)=1/x$ if $xne0$, and $f(0)=0$. This one is defined on $Bbb R$ but discontinuous, whereas your original example was defined on $Bbb Rbackslash{0}$ and continuous.
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Your counterexample $f(x)=1/x$ does not work as is, because it's not defined at $0$.
With the function $g:Bbb RtoBbb R$ defined by $g(0)=0$ and $g(x)=1/x$ is $xne0$, you have a valid counterexample: it's defined on $Bbb R$ and injective, but not strictly monotone.
The correct statement would be:
If $f:EtoBbb R$ is continuous and injective and $E$ is a connected subset of $Bbb R$, then $f$ is strictly monotone.
Note that here your $f$ is continuous but it's defined on $(-infty,0)cup(0,+infty)$, which is not connected. The function $g$ defined above is defined on $Bbb R$, but is not continuous.
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Your counterexample $f(x)=1/x$ does not work as is, because it's not defined at $0$.
With the function $g:Bbb RtoBbb R$ defined by $g(0)=0$ and $g(x)=1/x$ is $xne0$, you have a valid counterexample: it's defined on $Bbb R$ and injective, but not strictly monotone.
The correct statement would be:
If $f:EtoBbb R$ is continuous and injective and $E$ is a connected subset of $Bbb R$, then $f$ is strictly monotone.
Note that here your $f$ is continuous but it's defined on $(-infty,0)cup(0,+infty)$, which is not connected. The function $g$ defined above is defined on $Bbb R$, but is not continuous.
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Your counterexample $f(x)=1/x$ does not work as is, because it's not defined at $0$.
With the function $g:Bbb RtoBbb R$ defined by $g(0)=0$ and $g(x)=1/x$ is $xne0$, you have a valid counterexample: it's defined on $Bbb R$ and injective, but not strictly monotone.
The correct statement would be:
If $f:EtoBbb R$ is continuous and injective and $E$ is a connected subset of $Bbb R$, then $f$ is strictly monotone.
Note that here your $f$ is continuous but it's defined on $(-infty,0)cup(0,+infty)$, which is not connected. The function $g$ defined above is defined on $Bbb R$, but is not continuous.
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Your counterexample $f(x)=1/x$ does not work as is, because it's not defined at $0$.
With the function $g:Bbb RtoBbb R$ defined by $g(0)=0$ and $g(x)=1/x$ is $xne0$, you have a valid counterexample: it's defined on $Bbb R$ and injective, but not strictly monotone.
The correct statement would be:
If $f:EtoBbb R$ is continuous and injective and $E$ is a connected subset of $Bbb R$, then $f$ is strictly monotone.
Note that here your $f$ is continuous but it's defined on $(-infty,0)cup(0,+infty)$, which is not connected. The function $g$ defined above is defined on $Bbb R$, but is not continuous.
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Your counterexample $f(x)=1/x$ does not work as is, because it's not defined at $0$.
With the function $g:Bbb RtoBbb R$ defined by $g(0)=0$ and $g(x)=1/x$ is $xne0$, you have a valid counterexample: it's defined on $Bbb R$ and injective, but not strictly monotone.
The correct statement would be:
If $f:EtoBbb R$ is continuous and injective and $E$ is a connected subset of $Bbb R$, then $f$ is strictly monotone.
Note that here your $f$ is continuous but it's defined on $(-infty,0)cup(0,+infty)$, which is not connected. The function $g$ defined above is defined on $Bbb R$, but is not continuous.
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You need connectedness of the domain. Your counter is not defined at 0
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– PSG
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There are non-continuous examples.
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– Lord Shark the Unknown
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You also need that the function be continuous. Your counterexample is continuous, but the first comment applies. However, if you define $f(0)=0$ in your counterexample, it now works.
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– Jean-Claude Arbaut
Nov 20 '18 at 5:00
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Let $f(0)=1,f(1)=0$, and $f(x)=x$ otherwise.
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– Rahul
Nov 20 '18 at 5:02
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Since $f(x)=1/x$ is undefined at $0$, you can decide to give it any value you wish. Of course this is another function (it's not simply $xto1/x$ anymore). That is, the new $f$ is defined on $Bbb R$ to be $f(x)=1/x$ if $xne0$, and $f(0)=0$. This one is defined on $Bbb R$ but discontinuous, whereas your original example was defined on $Bbb Rbackslash{0}$ and continuous.
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– Jean-Claude Arbaut
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