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Let $Y$ be a finite dimensional normed space, $X$ a normed space, and $T: X to Y$ a surjective linear operator. Show that $T$ is an open mapping.




I think if I can show that $T(B_X)$ contains an open ball then I am done where $B_X$ is the unit ball in $X$. But I am unable to show that. Need some help..










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  • $T$ needs to be bounded/continuous, right?
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  • No.. T need not to be bounded/ continuous..
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  • A related question: Discontinuous surjective linear map which is not open.
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Let $Y$ be a finite dimensional normed space, $X$ a normed space, and $T: X to Y$ a surjective linear operator. Show that $T$ is an open mapping.




I think if I can show that $T(B_X)$ contains an open ball then I am done where $B_X$ is the unit ball in $X$. But I am unable to show that. Need some help..










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  • $T$ needs to be bounded/continuous, right?
    – Damian Reding
    Oct 2 '15 at 8:45










  • No.. T need not to be bounded/ continuous..
    – Saikat
    Oct 2 '15 at 8:47










  • A related question: Discontinuous surjective linear map which is not open.
    – Martin Sleziak
    Dec 9 at 12:32














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Let $Y$ be a finite dimensional normed space, $X$ a normed space, and $T: X to Y$ a surjective linear operator. Show that $T$ is an open mapping.




I think if I can show that $T(B_X)$ contains an open ball then I am done where $B_X$ is the unit ball in $X$. But I am unable to show that. Need some help..










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Let $Y$ be a finite dimensional normed space, $X$ a normed space, and $T: X to Y$ a surjective linear operator. Show that $T$ is an open mapping.




I think if I can show that $T(B_X)$ contains an open ball then I am done where $B_X$ is the unit ball in $X$. But I am unable to show that. Need some help..







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  • $T$ needs to be bounded/continuous, right?
    – Damian Reding
    Oct 2 '15 at 8:45










  • No.. T need not to be bounded/ continuous..
    – Saikat
    Oct 2 '15 at 8:47










  • A related question: Discontinuous surjective linear map which is not open.
    – Martin Sleziak
    Dec 9 at 12:32


















  • $T$ needs to be bounded/continuous, right?
    – Damian Reding
    Oct 2 '15 at 8:45










  • No.. T need not to be bounded/ continuous..
    – Saikat
    Oct 2 '15 at 8:47










  • A related question: Discontinuous surjective linear map which is not open.
    – Martin Sleziak
    Dec 9 at 12:32
















$T$ needs to be bounded/continuous, right?
– Damian Reding
Oct 2 '15 at 8:45




$T$ needs to be bounded/continuous, right?
– Damian Reding
Oct 2 '15 at 8:45












No.. T need not to be bounded/ continuous..
– Saikat
Oct 2 '15 at 8:47




No.. T need not to be bounded/ continuous..
– Saikat
Oct 2 '15 at 8:47












A related question: Discontinuous surjective linear map which is not open.
– Martin Sleziak
Dec 9 at 12:32




A related question: Discontinuous surjective linear map which is not open.
– Martin Sleziak
Dec 9 at 12:32










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  1. If $T$ is continuous, then $ker(T)$ is closed and the quotient map
    $$
    pi : X to X/ker(T)
    $$
    is an open map. Furthermore, $T$ induces an injective map
    $$
    S : X/ker(T) to Y
    $$
    Since $Y$ is finite dimensional, so is $X/ker(T)$, and so $S$ (whose range is $Y$) is now a homeomorphism. In particular, $S$ is an open map, so
    $$
    T = Scirc pi
    $$
    is also open.


  2. If $dim(Y) = 1$, then it follows from an earlier question that if $U$ is a non-empty open set, then $T(U) = mathbb{C}$, so it is, in particular, an open map.


  3. Not sure about the general case (if $T$ is discontinuous and $dim(Y) > 1$), but perhaps someone else can complete that case (I don't think induction works, but perhaps it could)







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  • If T is continuous then it is the open mapping theorem..Only Interesting case is to prove the result when T is discontinuous.
    – Saikat
    Oct 2 '15 at 9:28












  • $X$ need not be complete, so open mapping theorem does not necessarily apply. And even if $X$ is complete, the proof above is far easier because the range is finite dimensional.
    – Prahlad Vaidyanathan
    Oct 2 '15 at 9:32



















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Lemma : Let $T$ is an onto linear map from $X$ to $Y$, where $X,Y$ are n.l.s and $Y$ is finite dimensional. Let $U subseteq X$ is open such that $T(U)$ has only non zero elements.Then $T(U)$ is open.



Proof : Let dimension of $Y$ be a natural no. k. Let $u in U$ ,then $Tu ne 0$. Extend $Tu$ to a basis of $Y$ say
${Tu =: u_1,u_2, .... ,u_k}$. Clearly $u ne 0$. Choose $v_i in X$, such that $Tv_i = u_i forall i = 1, ..., k$ and $v_1 = u$. Thus ${v_1,v_2, .... ,v_k}$ is a linearly independent set in $X$. Let $ X_u := span {v_1,...., v_k} le X$. Let $T_u$ denote the restriction of $T$ onto $X_u$. Now $T_u$ : $X_u$ $ rightarrow Y$ is a linear isomorphism (also homeomorphism of topological spaces).Now $U$ $cap$ $X_u$ is open in $X_u$, therefore $T(U cap X_u)$ is also open in $Y$. Now $u in U cap X_u$ so $Tu in T(U cap X_u) subseteq T(U) subseteq Y$.
Thus $T(U)$ is open in $Y$.



Answer to the above question.



Enough to show $T(B(0,r))$ is open in $Y$ for all $r gt 0$ (since translations are homeomorphisms).
We have assumed the dimension of $Y$ to be a natural no., otherwise the result is vacuous.If $T(B(0,r))$ is $Y$ then we are done, else choose $y in
Ybackslash T(B(0,r))$. Let $t_y$ denote the translation in $Y$ by $y$. Let $x in X$ such that $Tx = y$. Let $t_x$ denote the translation by $x$ in $X$. (note $y,x$ are non zero vectors) Clearly $T(t_x(B(0,r))=B(x,r)) = t_y(T(B(0,r))) = T(B(0,r)) + y$. We show that the last set do not contain zero :
Let $z in B(0,r)$, then $Tz + y = 0$ implies $T(-z) = y$, therefore $y in T(B(0,r))$, contradiction (since$-z in B(0,r)$). Thus the last set is open in $Y$ by the lemma. Now since translations are homeomorphisms, we have $T(B(0,r))$ is open. This completes the proof.






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    1. If $T$ is continuous, then $ker(T)$ is closed and the quotient map
      $$
      pi : X to X/ker(T)
      $$
      is an open map. Furthermore, $T$ induces an injective map
      $$
      S : X/ker(T) to Y
      $$
      Since $Y$ is finite dimensional, so is $X/ker(T)$, and so $S$ (whose range is $Y$) is now a homeomorphism. In particular, $S$ is an open map, so
      $$
      T = Scirc pi
      $$
      is also open.


    2. If $dim(Y) = 1$, then it follows from an earlier question that if $U$ is a non-empty open set, then $T(U) = mathbb{C}$, so it is, in particular, an open map.


    3. Not sure about the general case (if $T$ is discontinuous and $dim(Y) > 1$), but perhaps someone else can complete that case (I don't think induction works, but perhaps it could)







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    • If T is continuous then it is the open mapping theorem..Only Interesting case is to prove the result when T is discontinuous.
      – Saikat
      Oct 2 '15 at 9:28












    • $X$ need not be complete, so open mapping theorem does not necessarily apply. And even if $X$ is complete, the proof above is far easier because the range is finite dimensional.
      – Prahlad Vaidyanathan
      Oct 2 '15 at 9:32
















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    1. If $T$ is continuous, then $ker(T)$ is closed and the quotient map
      $$
      pi : X to X/ker(T)
      $$
      is an open map. Furthermore, $T$ induces an injective map
      $$
      S : X/ker(T) to Y
      $$
      Since $Y$ is finite dimensional, so is $X/ker(T)$, and so $S$ (whose range is $Y$) is now a homeomorphism. In particular, $S$ is an open map, so
      $$
      T = Scirc pi
      $$
      is also open.


    2. If $dim(Y) = 1$, then it follows from an earlier question that if $U$ is a non-empty open set, then $T(U) = mathbb{C}$, so it is, in particular, an open map.


    3. Not sure about the general case (if $T$ is discontinuous and $dim(Y) > 1$), but perhaps someone else can complete that case (I don't think induction works, but perhaps it could)







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    • If T is continuous then it is the open mapping theorem..Only Interesting case is to prove the result when T is discontinuous.
      – Saikat
      Oct 2 '15 at 9:28












    • $X$ need not be complete, so open mapping theorem does not necessarily apply. And even if $X$ is complete, the proof above is far easier because the range is finite dimensional.
      – Prahlad Vaidyanathan
      Oct 2 '15 at 9:32














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    1. If $T$ is continuous, then $ker(T)$ is closed and the quotient map
      $$
      pi : X to X/ker(T)
      $$
      is an open map. Furthermore, $T$ induces an injective map
      $$
      S : X/ker(T) to Y
      $$
      Since $Y$ is finite dimensional, so is $X/ker(T)$, and so $S$ (whose range is $Y$) is now a homeomorphism. In particular, $S$ is an open map, so
      $$
      T = Scirc pi
      $$
      is also open.


    2. If $dim(Y) = 1$, then it follows from an earlier question that if $U$ is a non-empty open set, then $T(U) = mathbb{C}$, so it is, in particular, an open map.


    3. Not sure about the general case (if $T$ is discontinuous and $dim(Y) > 1$), but perhaps someone else can complete that case (I don't think induction works, but perhaps it could)







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    1. If $T$ is continuous, then $ker(T)$ is closed and the quotient map
      $$
      pi : X to X/ker(T)
      $$
      is an open map. Furthermore, $T$ induces an injective map
      $$
      S : X/ker(T) to Y
      $$
      Since $Y$ is finite dimensional, so is $X/ker(T)$, and so $S$ (whose range is $Y$) is now a homeomorphism. In particular, $S$ is an open map, so
      $$
      T = Scirc pi
      $$
      is also open.


    2. If $dim(Y) = 1$, then it follows from an earlier question that if $U$ is a non-empty open set, then $T(U) = mathbb{C}$, so it is, in particular, an open map.


    3. Not sure about the general case (if $T$ is discontinuous and $dim(Y) > 1$), but perhaps someone else can complete that case (I don't think induction works, but perhaps it could)








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    • If T is continuous then it is the open mapping theorem..Only Interesting case is to prove the result when T is discontinuous.
      – Saikat
      Oct 2 '15 at 9:28












    • $X$ need not be complete, so open mapping theorem does not necessarily apply. And even if $X$ is complete, the proof above is far easier because the range is finite dimensional.
      – Prahlad Vaidyanathan
      Oct 2 '15 at 9:32


















    • If T is continuous then it is the open mapping theorem..Only Interesting case is to prove the result when T is discontinuous.
      – Saikat
      Oct 2 '15 at 9:28












    • $X$ need not be complete, so open mapping theorem does not necessarily apply. And even if $X$ is complete, the proof above is far easier because the range is finite dimensional.
      – Prahlad Vaidyanathan
      Oct 2 '15 at 9:32
















    If T is continuous then it is the open mapping theorem..Only Interesting case is to prove the result when T is discontinuous.
    – Saikat
    Oct 2 '15 at 9:28






    If T is continuous then it is the open mapping theorem..Only Interesting case is to prove the result when T is discontinuous.
    – Saikat
    Oct 2 '15 at 9:28














    $X$ need not be complete, so open mapping theorem does not necessarily apply. And even if $X$ is complete, the proof above is far easier because the range is finite dimensional.
    – Prahlad Vaidyanathan
    Oct 2 '15 at 9:32




    $X$ need not be complete, so open mapping theorem does not necessarily apply. And even if $X$ is complete, the proof above is far easier because the range is finite dimensional.
    – Prahlad Vaidyanathan
    Oct 2 '15 at 9:32











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    Lemma : Let $T$ is an onto linear map from $X$ to $Y$, where $X,Y$ are n.l.s and $Y$ is finite dimensional. Let $U subseteq X$ is open such that $T(U)$ has only non zero elements.Then $T(U)$ is open.



    Proof : Let dimension of $Y$ be a natural no. k. Let $u in U$ ,then $Tu ne 0$. Extend $Tu$ to a basis of $Y$ say
    ${Tu =: u_1,u_2, .... ,u_k}$. Clearly $u ne 0$. Choose $v_i in X$, such that $Tv_i = u_i forall i = 1, ..., k$ and $v_1 = u$. Thus ${v_1,v_2, .... ,v_k}$ is a linearly independent set in $X$. Let $ X_u := span {v_1,...., v_k} le X$. Let $T_u$ denote the restriction of $T$ onto $X_u$. Now $T_u$ : $X_u$ $ rightarrow Y$ is a linear isomorphism (also homeomorphism of topological spaces).Now $U$ $cap$ $X_u$ is open in $X_u$, therefore $T(U cap X_u)$ is also open in $Y$. Now $u in U cap X_u$ so $Tu in T(U cap X_u) subseteq T(U) subseteq Y$.
    Thus $T(U)$ is open in $Y$.



    Answer to the above question.



    Enough to show $T(B(0,r))$ is open in $Y$ for all $r gt 0$ (since translations are homeomorphisms).
    We have assumed the dimension of $Y$ to be a natural no., otherwise the result is vacuous.If $T(B(0,r))$ is $Y$ then we are done, else choose $y in
    Ybackslash T(B(0,r))$. Let $t_y$ denote the translation in $Y$ by $y$. Let $x in X$ such that $Tx = y$. Let $t_x$ denote the translation by $x$ in $X$. (note $y,x$ are non zero vectors) Clearly $T(t_x(B(0,r))=B(x,r)) = t_y(T(B(0,r))) = T(B(0,r)) + y$. We show that the last set do not contain zero :
    Let $z in B(0,r)$, then $Tz + y = 0$ implies $T(-z) = y$, therefore $y in T(B(0,r))$, contradiction (since$-z in B(0,r)$). Thus the last set is open in $Y$ by the lemma. Now since translations are homeomorphisms, we have $T(B(0,r))$ is open. This completes the proof.






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      Lemma : Let $T$ is an onto linear map from $X$ to $Y$, where $X,Y$ are n.l.s and $Y$ is finite dimensional. Let $U subseteq X$ is open such that $T(U)$ has only non zero elements.Then $T(U)$ is open.



      Proof : Let dimension of $Y$ be a natural no. k. Let $u in U$ ,then $Tu ne 0$. Extend $Tu$ to a basis of $Y$ say
      ${Tu =: u_1,u_2, .... ,u_k}$. Clearly $u ne 0$. Choose $v_i in X$, such that $Tv_i = u_i forall i = 1, ..., k$ and $v_1 = u$. Thus ${v_1,v_2, .... ,v_k}$ is a linearly independent set in $X$. Let $ X_u := span {v_1,...., v_k} le X$. Let $T_u$ denote the restriction of $T$ onto $X_u$. Now $T_u$ : $X_u$ $ rightarrow Y$ is a linear isomorphism (also homeomorphism of topological spaces).Now $U$ $cap$ $X_u$ is open in $X_u$, therefore $T(U cap X_u)$ is also open in $Y$. Now $u in U cap X_u$ so $Tu in T(U cap X_u) subseteq T(U) subseteq Y$.
      Thus $T(U)$ is open in $Y$.



      Answer to the above question.



      Enough to show $T(B(0,r))$ is open in $Y$ for all $r gt 0$ (since translations are homeomorphisms).
      We have assumed the dimension of $Y$ to be a natural no., otherwise the result is vacuous.If $T(B(0,r))$ is $Y$ then we are done, else choose $y in
      Ybackslash T(B(0,r))$. Let $t_y$ denote the translation in $Y$ by $y$. Let $x in X$ such that $Tx = y$. Let $t_x$ denote the translation by $x$ in $X$. (note $y,x$ are non zero vectors) Clearly $T(t_x(B(0,r))=B(x,r)) = t_y(T(B(0,r))) = T(B(0,r)) + y$. We show that the last set do not contain zero :
      Let $z in B(0,r)$, then $Tz + y = 0$ implies $T(-z) = y$, therefore $y in T(B(0,r))$, contradiction (since$-z in B(0,r)$). Thus the last set is open in $Y$ by the lemma. Now since translations are homeomorphisms, we have $T(B(0,r))$ is open. This completes the proof.






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        Lemma : Let $T$ is an onto linear map from $X$ to $Y$, where $X,Y$ are n.l.s and $Y$ is finite dimensional. Let $U subseteq X$ is open such that $T(U)$ has only non zero elements.Then $T(U)$ is open.



        Proof : Let dimension of $Y$ be a natural no. k. Let $u in U$ ,then $Tu ne 0$. Extend $Tu$ to a basis of $Y$ say
        ${Tu =: u_1,u_2, .... ,u_k}$. Clearly $u ne 0$. Choose $v_i in X$, such that $Tv_i = u_i forall i = 1, ..., k$ and $v_1 = u$. Thus ${v_1,v_2, .... ,v_k}$ is a linearly independent set in $X$. Let $ X_u := span {v_1,...., v_k} le X$. Let $T_u$ denote the restriction of $T$ onto $X_u$. Now $T_u$ : $X_u$ $ rightarrow Y$ is a linear isomorphism (also homeomorphism of topological spaces).Now $U$ $cap$ $X_u$ is open in $X_u$, therefore $T(U cap X_u)$ is also open in $Y$. Now $u in U cap X_u$ so $Tu in T(U cap X_u) subseteq T(U) subseteq Y$.
        Thus $T(U)$ is open in $Y$.



        Answer to the above question.



        Enough to show $T(B(0,r))$ is open in $Y$ for all $r gt 0$ (since translations are homeomorphisms).
        We have assumed the dimension of $Y$ to be a natural no., otherwise the result is vacuous.If $T(B(0,r))$ is $Y$ then we are done, else choose $y in
        Ybackslash T(B(0,r))$. Let $t_y$ denote the translation in $Y$ by $y$. Let $x in X$ such that $Tx = y$. Let $t_x$ denote the translation by $x$ in $X$. (note $y,x$ are non zero vectors) Clearly $T(t_x(B(0,r))=B(x,r)) = t_y(T(B(0,r))) = T(B(0,r)) + y$. We show that the last set do not contain zero :
        Let $z in B(0,r)$, then $Tz + y = 0$ implies $T(-z) = y$, therefore $y in T(B(0,r))$, contradiction (since$-z in B(0,r)$). Thus the last set is open in $Y$ by the lemma. Now since translations are homeomorphisms, we have $T(B(0,r))$ is open. This completes the proof.






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        Lemma : Let $T$ is an onto linear map from $X$ to $Y$, where $X,Y$ are n.l.s and $Y$ is finite dimensional. Let $U subseteq X$ is open such that $T(U)$ has only non zero elements.Then $T(U)$ is open.



        Proof : Let dimension of $Y$ be a natural no. k. Let $u in U$ ,then $Tu ne 0$. Extend $Tu$ to a basis of $Y$ say
        ${Tu =: u_1,u_2, .... ,u_k}$. Clearly $u ne 0$. Choose $v_i in X$, such that $Tv_i = u_i forall i = 1, ..., k$ and $v_1 = u$. Thus ${v_1,v_2, .... ,v_k}$ is a linearly independent set in $X$. Let $ X_u := span {v_1,...., v_k} le X$. Let $T_u$ denote the restriction of $T$ onto $X_u$. Now $T_u$ : $X_u$ $ rightarrow Y$ is a linear isomorphism (also homeomorphism of topological spaces).Now $U$ $cap$ $X_u$ is open in $X_u$, therefore $T(U cap X_u)$ is also open in $Y$. Now $u in U cap X_u$ so $Tu in T(U cap X_u) subseteq T(U) subseteq Y$.
        Thus $T(U)$ is open in $Y$.



        Answer to the above question.



        Enough to show $T(B(0,r))$ is open in $Y$ for all $r gt 0$ (since translations are homeomorphisms).
        We have assumed the dimension of $Y$ to be a natural no., otherwise the result is vacuous.If $T(B(0,r))$ is $Y$ then we are done, else choose $y in
        Ybackslash T(B(0,r))$. Let $t_y$ denote the translation in $Y$ by $y$. Let $x in X$ such that $Tx = y$. Let $t_x$ denote the translation by $x$ in $X$. (note $y,x$ are non zero vectors) Clearly $T(t_x(B(0,r))=B(x,r)) = t_y(T(B(0,r))) = T(B(0,r)) + y$. We show that the last set do not contain zero :
        Let $z in B(0,r)$, then $Tz + y = 0$ implies $T(-z) = y$, therefore $y in T(B(0,r))$, contradiction (since$-z in B(0,r)$). Thus the last set is open in $Y$ by the lemma. Now since translations are homeomorphisms, we have $T(B(0,r))$ is open. This completes the proof.







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