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Let $O$ the circumcenter of an acute triangle $ABC$. Let $alpha $ the circle trough $A $ and $B $ tangent to $[AC] $, and $beta $ the circle trough $A, C $ tangent to $[AB] $. A line trough $A $ intersects the second time the circles $alpha $ and $beta $ in $X $ and $Y $. Show that $OX=OY $.




I try to check that the second point of intersection of the circles is $O $. With GeoGebra this fact is false.










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I try to check that the second point of intersection of the circles is $O $. With GeoGebra this fact is false.










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I try to check that the second point of intersection of the circles is $O $. With GeoGebra this fact is false.










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I try to check that the second point of intersection of the circles is $O $. With GeoGebra this fact is false.







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Since I’m on the phone and can’t type properly I will make some hints:




  1. Show that triangles $ABX$ and $ACY$ are similar.

  2. Show that $AEOD$ is a parallelogram.

  3. Show that triangles $XEO$ and $ODY$ are congruent.






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    @rafa since $AB$ is a tangent line, $angle BAY = 1/2 arc{ACY} = pi - angle ACY$. So $angle XAB = angle ACY$. Similarly, $angle BXA = angle CAY$.
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My proof does not use similarity. So it's not just a copy of Quang's (excellent) idea.



Notice that:



$$ODbot AB,space EAbot AB implies DOparallel AE$$



$$OEbot AC,space DAbot AC implies DAparallel OE$$



Obviously, quadrilateral ADOE is a parallelogram (opposite sides are parallel) and because of that:



$$DX=DA=OEtag{1}$$



$$DO=AE=EYtag{2}$$



Introduce angles $delta=angle EAY$, $gamma=angle BAC$



$$angle AEY=180^circ-2delta$$



$$angle AEO=gamma$$



(the last is true because angles ∠AEO and ∠BAC have perpendicular legs)



$$angle OEY=360^circ-angle AEY -angle AEO=180^circ+2delta-gammatag{3}$$



On the other side opposite angles in parallelogram $angle DAE$ and $angle DOE$ are equal and $angle DOE$ is obtuse angle with perpendicular legs with respect to angle $angle BAC=gamma$:



$$angle DAE=angle DOE=180^circ-gamma$$



$$angle DAX=180^circ-angle DAE-angle EAY=gamma-delta$$



$$angle DXA=angle DAX=gamma-delta$$



$$angle XDA=180^circ-angle DAX-angle DXA=180^circ-2gamma+2delta$$



$$angle ADO=gamma$$



(the last is true because angles $angle ADO$ and $angle BAC$ have perpendicular legs)



Finally:



$$angle XDO=angle XDA+angle ADO=180^circ+2delta-gammatag{4}$$



From (3) and (4):



$$angle XDO=angle OEYtag{5}$$



Because of (1), (2) and (5) triangles $triangle XDO$ and $triangle OEY$ are congruent by SAS so it must be that $OX=OY$.






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    Since I’m on the phone and can’t type properly I will make some hints:




    1. Show that triangles $ABX$ and $ACY$ are similar.

    2. Show that $AEOD$ is a parallelogram.

    3. Show that triangles $XEO$ and $ODY$ are congruent.






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      @rafa since $AB$ is a tangent line, $angle BAY = 1/2 arc{ACY} = pi - angle ACY$. So $angle XAB = angle ACY$. Similarly, $angle BXA = angle CAY$.
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    Since I’m on the phone and can’t type properly I will make some hints:




    1. Show that triangles $ABX$ and $ACY$ are similar.

    2. Show that $AEOD$ is a parallelogram.

    3. Show that triangles $XEO$ and $ODY$ are congruent.






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      Very educational answer !
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      @QuangHoang Can you explain why $triangle ABX$ ~ $triangle CBY $? I can deduce from the second assertion which is very clear that $angle AXB=angle CBY $. I need to prove another congruence.
      $endgroup$
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      Nov 9 '18 at 6:08












    • $begingroup$
      @rafa since $AB$ is a tangent line, $angle BAY = 1/2 arc{ACY} = pi - angle ACY$. So $angle XAB = angle ACY$. Similarly, $angle BXA = angle CAY$.
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    Since I’m on the phone and can’t type properly I will make some hints:




    1. Show that triangles $ABX$ and $ACY$ are similar.

    2. Show that $AEOD$ is a parallelogram.

    3. Show that triangles $XEO$ and $ODY$ are congruent.






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    Since I’m on the phone and can’t type properly I will make some hints:




    1. Show that triangles $ABX$ and $ACY$ are similar.

    2. Show that $AEOD$ is a parallelogram.

    3. Show that triangles $XEO$ and $ODY$ are congruent.







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    • $begingroup$
      @QuangHoang Can you explain why $triangle ABX$ ~ $triangle CBY $? I can deduce from the second assertion which is very clear that $angle AXB=angle CBY $. I need to prove another congruence.
      $endgroup$
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      Nov 9 '18 at 6:08












    • $begingroup$
      @rafa since $AB$ is a tangent line, $angle BAY = 1/2 arc{ACY} = pi - angle ACY$. So $angle XAB = angle ACY$. Similarly, $angle BXA = angle CAY$.
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      Very educational answer !
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      @QuangHoang Can you explain why $triangle ABX$ ~ $triangle CBY $? I can deduce from the second assertion which is very clear that $angle AXB=angle CBY $. I need to prove another congruence.
      $endgroup$
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      Nov 9 '18 at 6:08












    • $begingroup$
      @rafa since $AB$ is a tangent line, $angle BAY = 1/2 arc{ACY} = pi - angle ACY$. So $angle XAB = angle ACY$. Similarly, $angle BXA = angle CAY$.
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    $begingroup$
    Very educational answer !
    $endgroup$
    – Jean Marie
    Nov 7 '18 at 14:53












    $begingroup$
    @QuangHoang Can you explain why $triangle ABX$ ~ $triangle CBY $? I can deduce from the second assertion which is very clear that $angle AXB=angle CBY $. I need to prove another congruence.
    $endgroup$
    – rafa
    Nov 9 '18 at 6:08






    $begingroup$
    @QuangHoang Can you explain why $triangle ABX$ ~ $triangle CBY $? I can deduce from the second assertion which is very clear that $angle AXB=angle CBY $. I need to prove another congruence.
    $endgroup$
    – rafa
    Nov 9 '18 at 6:08














    $begingroup$
    @rafa since $AB$ is a tangent line, $angle BAY = 1/2 arc{ACY} = pi - angle ACY$. So $angle XAB = angle ACY$. Similarly, $angle BXA = angle CAY$.
    $endgroup$
    – Quang Hoang
    Nov 9 '18 at 6:13




    $begingroup$
    @rafa since $AB$ is a tangent line, $angle BAY = 1/2 arc{ACY} = pi - angle ACY$. So $angle XAB = angle ACY$. Similarly, $angle BXA = angle CAY$.
    $endgroup$
    – Quang Hoang
    Nov 9 '18 at 6:13











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    My proof does not use similarity. So it's not just a copy of Quang's (excellent) idea.



    Notice that:



    $$ODbot AB,space EAbot AB implies DOparallel AE$$



    $$OEbot AC,space DAbot AC implies DAparallel OE$$



    Obviously, quadrilateral ADOE is a parallelogram (opposite sides are parallel) and because of that:



    $$DX=DA=OEtag{1}$$



    $$DO=AE=EYtag{2}$$



    Introduce angles $delta=angle EAY$, $gamma=angle BAC$



    $$angle AEY=180^circ-2delta$$



    $$angle AEO=gamma$$



    (the last is true because angles ∠AEO and ∠BAC have perpendicular legs)



    $$angle OEY=360^circ-angle AEY -angle AEO=180^circ+2delta-gammatag{3}$$



    On the other side opposite angles in parallelogram $angle DAE$ and $angle DOE$ are equal and $angle DOE$ is obtuse angle with perpendicular legs with respect to angle $angle BAC=gamma$:



    $$angle DAE=angle DOE=180^circ-gamma$$



    $$angle DAX=180^circ-angle DAE-angle EAY=gamma-delta$$



    $$angle DXA=angle DAX=gamma-delta$$



    $$angle XDA=180^circ-angle DAX-angle DXA=180^circ-2gamma+2delta$$



    $$angle ADO=gamma$$



    (the last is true because angles $angle ADO$ and $angle BAC$ have perpendicular legs)



    Finally:



    $$angle XDO=angle XDA+angle ADO=180^circ+2delta-gammatag{4}$$



    From (3) and (4):



    $$angle XDO=angle OEYtag{5}$$



    Because of (1), (2) and (5) triangles $triangle XDO$ and $triangle OEY$ are congruent by SAS so it must be that $OX=OY$.






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      My proof does not use similarity. So it's not just a copy of Quang's (excellent) idea.



      Notice that:



      $$ODbot AB,space EAbot AB implies DOparallel AE$$



      $$OEbot AC,space DAbot AC implies DAparallel OE$$



      Obviously, quadrilateral ADOE is a parallelogram (opposite sides are parallel) and because of that:



      $$DX=DA=OEtag{1}$$



      $$DO=AE=EYtag{2}$$



      Introduce angles $delta=angle EAY$, $gamma=angle BAC$



      $$angle AEY=180^circ-2delta$$



      $$angle AEO=gamma$$



      (the last is true because angles ∠AEO and ∠BAC have perpendicular legs)



      $$angle OEY=360^circ-angle AEY -angle AEO=180^circ+2delta-gammatag{3}$$



      On the other side opposite angles in parallelogram $angle DAE$ and $angle DOE$ are equal and $angle DOE$ is obtuse angle with perpendicular legs with respect to angle $angle BAC=gamma$:



      $$angle DAE=angle DOE=180^circ-gamma$$



      $$angle DAX=180^circ-angle DAE-angle EAY=gamma-delta$$



      $$angle DXA=angle DAX=gamma-delta$$



      $$angle XDA=180^circ-angle DAX-angle DXA=180^circ-2gamma+2delta$$



      $$angle ADO=gamma$$



      (the last is true because angles $angle ADO$ and $angle BAC$ have perpendicular legs)



      Finally:



      $$angle XDO=angle XDA+angle ADO=180^circ+2delta-gammatag{4}$$



      From (3) and (4):



      $$angle XDO=angle OEYtag{5}$$



      Because of (1), (2) and (5) triangles $triangle XDO$ and $triangle OEY$ are congruent by SAS so it must be that $OX=OY$.






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        My proof does not use similarity. So it's not just a copy of Quang's (excellent) idea.



        Notice that:



        $$ODbot AB,space EAbot AB implies DOparallel AE$$



        $$OEbot AC,space DAbot AC implies DAparallel OE$$



        Obviously, quadrilateral ADOE is a parallelogram (opposite sides are parallel) and because of that:



        $$DX=DA=OEtag{1}$$



        $$DO=AE=EYtag{2}$$



        Introduce angles $delta=angle EAY$, $gamma=angle BAC$



        $$angle AEY=180^circ-2delta$$



        $$angle AEO=gamma$$



        (the last is true because angles ∠AEO and ∠BAC have perpendicular legs)



        $$angle OEY=360^circ-angle AEY -angle AEO=180^circ+2delta-gammatag{3}$$



        On the other side opposite angles in parallelogram $angle DAE$ and $angle DOE$ are equal and $angle DOE$ is obtuse angle with perpendicular legs with respect to angle $angle BAC=gamma$:



        $$angle DAE=angle DOE=180^circ-gamma$$



        $$angle DAX=180^circ-angle DAE-angle EAY=gamma-delta$$



        $$angle DXA=angle DAX=gamma-delta$$



        $$angle XDA=180^circ-angle DAX-angle DXA=180^circ-2gamma+2delta$$



        $$angle ADO=gamma$$



        (the last is true because angles $angle ADO$ and $angle BAC$ have perpendicular legs)



        Finally:



        $$angle XDO=angle XDA+angle ADO=180^circ+2delta-gammatag{4}$$



        From (3) and (4):



        $$angle XDO=angle OEYtag{5}$$



        Because of (1), (2) and (5) triangles $triangle XDO$ and $triangle OEY$ are congruent by SAS so it must be that $OX=OY$.






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        enter image description here



        My proof does not use similarity. So it's not just a copy of Quang's (excellent) idea.



        Notice that:



        $$ODbot AB,space EAbot AB implies DOparallel AE$$



        $$OEbot AC,space DAbot AC implies DAparallel OE$$



        Obviously, quadrilateral ADOE is a parallelogram (opposite sides are parallel) and because of that:



        $$DX=DA=OEtag{1}$$



        $$DO=AE=EYtag{2}$$



        Introduce angles $delta=angle EAY$, $gamma=angle BAC$



        $$angle AEY=180^circ-2delta$$



        $$angle AEO=gamma$$



        (the last is true because angles ∠AEO and ∠BAC have perpendicular legs)



        $$angle OEY=360^circ-angle AEY -angle AEO=180^circ+2delta-gammatag{3}$$



        On the other side opposite angles in parallelogram $angle DAE$ and $angle DOE$ are equal and $angle DOE$ is obtuse angle with perpendicular legs with respect to angle $angle BAC=gamma$:



        $$angle DAE=angle DOE=180^circ-gamma$$



        $$angle DAX=180^circ-angle DAE-angle EAY=gamma-delta$$



        $$angle DXA=angle DAX=gamma-delta$$



        $$angle XDA=180^circ-angle DAX-angle DXA=180^circ-2gamma+2delta$$



        $$angle ADO=gamma$$



        (the last is true because angles $angle ADO$ and $angle BAC$ have perpendicular legs)



        Finally:



        $$angle XDO=angle XDA+angle ADO=180^circ+2delta-gammatag{4}$$



        From (3) and (4):



        $$angle XDO=angle OEYtag{5}$$



        Because of (1), (2) and (5) triangles $triangle XDO$ and $triangle OEY$ are congruent by SAS so it must be that $OX=OY$.







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