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What is the functional derivative of a functional $F$ that is expressed as a volume integral over a region $Omegasubsetmathbb R^3$ plus a surface integral over the boundary $partialOmega$?
An example for such a functional is
$$
F[c] = int_Omega f(c, nabla c) , mathrm{d}V + oint_{partialOmega} g(c) , mathrm{d} S
;.
$$

I think that inside the domain the functional derivative reads
$$
frac{delta F}{delta c} = frac{partial f}{partial c}
- nabla frac{partial f}{partial (nabla c)}
;,
$$

but I do not know how to deal with the boundary. I'm not even sure whether the problem is well-posed (even assuming reasonably nice properties of $Omega$, $f$, and $g$).



My more general question therefore is how one deals with functionals of the aforementioned structure.










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    What is the functional derivative of a functional $F$ that is expressed as a volume integral over a region $Omegasubsetmathbb R^3$ plus a surface integral over the boundary $partialOmega$?
    An example for such a functional is
    $$
    F[c] = int_Omega f(c, nabla c) , mathrm{d}V + oint_{partialOmega} g(c) , mathrm{d} S
    ;.
    $$

    I think that inside the domain the functional derivative reads
    $$
    frac{delta F}{delta c} = frac{partial f}{partial c}
    - nabla frac{partial f}{partial (nabla c)}
    ;,
    $$

    but I do not know how to deal with the boundary. I'm not even sure whether the problem is well-posed (even assuming reasonably nice properties of $Omega$, $f$, and $g$).



    My more general question therefore is how one deals with functionals of the aforementioned structure.










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      What is the functional derivative of a functional $F$ that is expressed as a volume integral over a region $Omegasubsetmathbb R^3$ plus a surface integral over the boundary $partialOmega$?
      An example for such a functional is
      $$
      F[c] = int_Omega f(c, nabla c) , mathrm{d}V + oint_{partialOmega} g(c) , mathrm{d} S
      ;.
      $$

      I think that inside the domain the functional derivative reads
      $$
      frac{delta F}{delta c} = frac{partial f}{partial c}
      - nabla frac{partial f}{partial (nabla c)}
      ;,
      $$

      but I do not know how to deal with the boundary. I'm not even sure whether the problem is well-posed (even assuming reasonably nice properties of $Omega$, $f$, and $g$).



      My more general question therefore is how one deals with functionals of the aforementioned structure.










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      What is the functional derivative of a functional $F$ that is expressed as a volume integral over a region $Omegasubsetmathbb R^3$ plus a surface integral over the boundary $partialOmega$?
      An example for such a functional is
      $$
      F[c] = int_Omega f(c, nabla c) , mathrm{d}V + oint_{partialOmega} g(c) , mathrm{d} S
      ;.
      $$

      I think that inside the domain the functional derivative reads
      $$
      frac{delta F}{delta c} = frac{partial f}{partial c}
      - nabla frac{partial f}{partial (nabla c)}
      ;,
      $$

      but I do not know how to deal with the boundary. I'm not even sure whether the problem is well-posed (even assuming reasonably nice properties of $Omega$, $f$, and $g$).



      My more general question therefore is how one deals with functionals of the aforementioned structure.







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          Generally speaking, the boundary terms in a functional only contributes to the boundary conditions, and would not lead changes to the variational derivative.



          For your example, repeat the derivation of the classical Euler-Lagrange equation, and
          begin{align}
          delta F&=int_{Omega}delta f(c,nabla c),{rm d}V+int_{partialOmega}delta g(c),{rm d}S\
          &=int_{Omega}left(frac{partial f}{partial c}delta c+frac{partial f}{partialleft(nabla cright)}cdotnabladelta cright){rm d}V+int_{partialOmega}g'(c)delta c,{rm d}S\
          &=int_{Omega}left(frac{partial f}{partial c}delta c+nablacdotleft(frac{partial f}{partialleft(nabla cright)},delta cright)-nablacdotleft(frac{partial f}{partialleft(nabla cright)}right)delta cright){rm d}V+int_{partialOmega}g'(c)delta c,{rm d}S\
          &=int_{Omega}left(frac{partial f}{partial c}-nablacdotleft(frac{partial f}{partialleft(nabla cright)}right)right)delta c,{rm d}V+int_{partialOmega}left(frac{partial f}{partialleft(nabla cright)}cdot n+g'(c)right)delta c,{rm d}S,
          end{align}

          where $n$ denotes the outward unit normal vector on $partialOmega$.



          Therefore, the $c$ that minimizes $F$ must satisfy
          begin{align}
          frac{partial f}{partial c}-nablacdotleft(frac{partial f}{partialleft(nabla cright)}right)&=0quadtext{in }Omega,\
          frac{partial f}{partialleft(nabla cright)}cdot n+g'(c)&=0quadtext{on }partialOmega
          end{align}

          due to the arbitrariness of $delta c$.






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            The problem can be solved by calculating the first variation of the functional from scratch.
            Here, the first variation reads $delta F
            = lim_{epsilon rightarrow 0}(F[c + delta c] - F[c])$
            with $delta c =epsilon phi$ and $phi$ is a arbitrary function.
            We thus have
            begin{align}
            F[c + epsilon phi] &=
            int_Omega f(c + epsilonphi, nabla c + epsilon nabla phi) mathrm{d}^3 r
            +
            oint_{partialOmega} g(c + epsilonphi) mathrm{d}^2 r
            end{align}

            which can be expanded to first order in $epsilon$,
            begin{align}
            F[c + epsilon phi] &=
            int_Omegaleft[
            f(c, nabla c)
            + frac{partial f}{partial c}epsilonphi
            + frac{partial f}{partial (nabla c)}epsilon nabla phi
            right] mathrm{d}^3 r
            +
            oint_{partialOmega} left[
            g(c)
            + g'(c)epsilonphi)
            right] mathrm{d}^2 r
            ;.
            end{align}

            We thus obtain for the first variation
            begin{align}
            delta F &=
            int_Omegaleft[
            frac{partial f}{partial c}delta c
            + frac{partial f}{partial (nabla c)} nabla delta c
            right] mathrm{d}^3 r +
            oint_{partialOmega} !!! g'(c)delta c , mathrm{d}^2 r
            end{align}

            Using integration by parts
            begin{align}
            delta F &=
            int_Omegaleft[
            frac{partial f}{partial c}delta c
            - delta cnablafrac{partial f}{partial(nabla c)}
            right] mathrm{d}^3 r
            +
            oint_{partialOmega}left[
            frac{partial f}{partial (partial_alpha c)} n_alpha delta c
            + g'(c)delta c
            right] mathrm{d}^2 r
            ;,
            end{align}

            where $n_alpha$ is the normal vector of the boundary.
            In particular, the associated Euler-Lagrange equations read
            begin{align}
            0 &= frac{partial f}{partial c} - nablafrac{partial f}{partial (nabla c)}
            \
            0 &= frac{partial f}{partial(partial_alpha c)} n_alpha + g'(c)
            label{eqn:stationary_point_boundary}
            end{align}






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              Generally speaking, the boundary terms in a functional only contributes to the boundary conditions, and would not lead changes to the variational derivative.



              For your example, repeat the derivation of the classical Euler-Lagrange equation, and
              begin{align}
              delta F&=int_{Omega}delta f(c,nabla c),{rm d}V+int_{partialOmega}delta g(c),{rm d}S\
              &=int_{Omega}left(frac{partial f}{partial c}delta c+frac{partial f}{partialleft(nabla cright)}cdotnabladelta cright){rm d}V+int_{partialOmega}g'(c)delta c,{rm d}S\
              &=int_{Omega}left(frac{partial f}{partial c}delta c+nablacdotleft(frac{partial f}{partialleft(nabla cright)},delta cright)-nablacdotleft(frac{partial f}{partialleft(nabla cright)}right)delta cright){rm d}V+int_{partialOmega}g'(c)delta c,{rm d}S\
              &=int_{Omega}left(frac{partial f}{partial c}-nablacdotleft(frac{partial f}{partialleft(nabla cright)}right)right)delta c,{rm d}V+int_{partialOmega}left(frac{partial f}{partialleft(nabla cright)}cdot n+g'(c)right)delta c,{rm d}S,
              end{align}

              where $n$ denotes the outward unit normal vector on $partialOmega$.



              Therefore, the $c$ that minimizes $F$ must satisfy
              begin{align}
              frac{partial f}{partial c}-nablacdotleft(frac{partial f}{partialleft(nabla cright)}right)&=0quadtext{in }Omega,\
              frac{partial f}{partialleft(nabla cright)}cdot n+g'(c)&=0quadtext{on }partialOmega
              end{align}

              due to the arbitrariness of $delta c$.






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                Generally speaking, the boundary terms in a functional only contributes to the boundary conditions, and would not lead changes to the variational derivative.



                For your example, repeat the derivation of the classical Euler-Lagrange equation, and
                begin{align}
                delta F&=int_{Omega}delta f(c,nabla c),{rm d}V+int_{partialOmega}delta g(c),{rm d}S\
                &=int_{Omega}left(frac{partial f}{partial c}delta c+frac{partial f}{partialleft(nabla cright)}cdotnabladelta cright){rm d}V+int_{partialOmega}g'(c)delta c,{rm d}S\
                &=int_{Omega}left(frac{partial f}{partial c}delta c+nablacdotleft(frac{partial f}{partialleft(nabla cright)},delta cright)-nablacdotleft(frac{partial f}{partialleft(nabla cright)}right)delta cright){rm d}V+int_{partialOmega}g'(c)delta c,{rm d}S\
                &=int_{Omega}left(frac{partial f}{partial c}-nablacdotleft(frac{partial f}{partialleft(nabla cright)}right)right)delta c,{rm d}V+int_{partialOmega}left(frac{partial f}{partialleft(nabla cright)}cdot n+g'(c)right)delta c,{rm d}S,
                end{align}

                where $n$ denotes the outward unit normal vector on $partialOmega$.



                Therefore, the $c$ that minimizes $F$ must satisfy
                begin{align}
                frac{partial f}{partial c}-nablacdotleft(frac{partial f}{partialleft(nabla cright)}right)&=0quadtext{in }Omega,\
                frac{partial f}{partialleft(nabla cright)}cdot n+g'(c)&=0quadtext{on }partialOmega
                end{align}

                due to the arbitrariness of $delta c$.






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                  Generally speaking, the boundary terms in a functional only contributes to the boundary conditions, and would not lead changes to the variational derivative.



                  For your example, repeat the derivation of the classical Euler-Lagrange equation, and
                  begin{align}
                  delta F&=int_{Omega}delta f(c,nabla c),{rm d}V+int_{partialOmega}delta g(c),{rm d}S\
                  &=int_{Omega}left(frac{partial f}{partial c}delta c+frac{partial f}{partialleft(nabla cright)}cdotnabladelta cright){rm d}V+int_{partialOmega}g'(c)delta c,{rm d}S\
                  &=int_{Omega}left(frac{partial f}{partial c}delta c+nablacdotleft(frac{partial f}{partialleft(nabla cright)},delta cright)-nablacdotleft(frac{partial f}{partialleft(nabla cright)}right)delta cright){rm d}V+int_{partialOmega}g'(c)delta c,{rm d}S\
                  &=int_{Omega}left(frac{partial f}{partial c}-nablacdotleft(frac{partial f}{partialleft(nabla cright)}right)right)delta c,{rm d}V+int_{partialOmega}left(frac{partial f}{partialleft(nabla cright)}cdot n+g'(c)right)delta c,{rm d}S,
                  end{align}

                  where $n$ denotes the outward unit normal vector on $partialOmega$.



                  Therefore, the $c$ that minimizes $F$ must satisfy
                  begin{align}
                  frac{partial f}{partial c}-nablacdotleft(frac{partial f}{partialleft(nabla cright)}right)&=0quadtext{in }Omega,\
                  frac{partial f}{partialleft(nabla cright)}cdot n+g'(c)&=0quadtext{on }partialOmega
                  end{align}

                  due to the arbitrariness of $delta c$.






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                  Generally speaking, the boundary terms in a functional only contributes to the boundary conditions, and would not lead changes to the variational derivative.



                  For your example, repeat the derivation of the classical Euler-Lagrange equation, and
                  begin{align}
                  delta F&=int_{Omega}delta f(c,nabla c),{rm d}V+int_{partialOmega}delta g(c),{rm d}S\
                  &=int_{Omega}left(frac{partial f}{partial c}delta c+frac{partial f}{partialleft(nabla cright)}cdotnabladelta cright){rm d}V+int_{partialOmega}g'(c)delta c,{rm d}S\
                  &=int_{Omega}left(frac{partial f}{partial c}delta c+nablacdotleft(frac{partial f}{partialleft(nabla cright)},delta cright)-nablacdotleft(frac{partial f}{partialleft(nabla cright)}right)delta cright){rm d}V+int_{partialOmega}g'(c)delta c,{rm d}S\
                  &=int_{Omega}left(frac{partial f}{partial c}-nablacdotleft(frac{partial f}{partialleft(nabla cright)}right)right)delta c,{rm d}V+int_{partialOmega}left(frac{partial f}{partialleft(nabla cright)}cdot n+g'(c)right)delta c,{rm d}S,
                  end{align}

                  where $n$ denotes the outward unit normal vector on $partialOmega$.



                  Therefore, the $c$ that minimizes $F$ must satisfy
                  begin{align}
                  frac{partial f}{partial c}-nablacdotleft(frac{partial f}{partialleft(nabla cright)}right)&=0quadtext{in }Omega,\
                  frac{partial f}{partialleft(nabla cright)}cdot n+g'(c)&=0quadtext{on }partialOmega
                  end{align}

                  due to the arbitrariness of $delta c$.







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                      The problem can be solved by calculating the first variation of the functional from scratch.
                      Here, the first variation reads $delta F
                      = lim_{epsilon rightarrow 0}(F[c + delta c] - F[c])$
                      with $delta c =epsilon phi$ and $phi$ is a arbitrary function.
                      We thus have
                      begin{align}
                      F[c + epsilon phi] &=
                      int_Omega f(c + epsilonphi, nabla c + epsilon nabla phi) mathrm{d}^3 r
                      +
                      oint_{partialOmega} g(c + epsilonphi) mathrm{d}^2 r
                      end{align}

                      which can be expanded to first order in $epsilon$,
                      begin{align}
                      F[c + epsilon phi] &=
                      int_Omegaleft[
                      f(c, nabla c)
                      + frac{partial f}{partial c}epsilonphi
                      + frac{partial f}{partial (nabla c)}epsilon nabla phi
                      right] mathrm{d}^3 r
                      +
                      oint_{partialOmega} left[
                      g(c)
                      + g'(c)epsilonphi)
                      right] mathrm{d}^2 r
                      ;.
                      end{align}

                      We thus obtain for the first variation
                      begin{align}
                      delta F &=
                      int_Omegaleft[
                      frac{partial f}{partial c}delta c
                      + frac{partial f}{partial (nabla c)} nabla delta c
                      right] mathrm{d}^3 r +
                      oint_{partialOmega} !!! g'(c)delta c , mathrm{d}^2 r
                      end{align}

                      Using integration by parts
                      begin{align}
                      delta F &=
                      int_Omegaleft[
                      frac{partial f}{partial c}delta c
                      - delta cnablafrac{partial f}{partial(nabla c)}
                      right] mathrm{d}^3 r
                      +
                      oint_{partialOmega}left[
                      frac{partial f}{partial (partial_alpha c)} n_alpha delta c
                      + g'(c)delta c
                      right] mathrm{d}^2 r
                      ;,
                      end{align}

                      where $n_alpha$ is the normal vector of the boundary.
                      In particular, the associated Euler-Lagrange equations read
                      begin{align}
                      0 &= frac{partial f}{partial c} - nablafrac{partial f}{partial (nabla c)}
                      \
                      0 &= frac{partial f}{partial(partial_alpha c)} n_alpha + g'(c)
                      label{eqn:stationary_point_boundary}
                      end{align}






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                        The problem can be solved by calculating the first variation of the functional from scratch.
                        Here, the first variation reads $delta F
                        = lim_{epsilon rightarrow 0}(F[c + delta c] - F[c])$
                        with $delta c =epsilon phi$ and $phi$ is a arbitrary function.
                        We thus have
                        begin{align}
                        F[c + epsilon phi] &=
                        int_Omega f(c + epsilonphi, nabla c + epsilon nabla phi) mathrm{d}^3 r
                        +
                        oint_{partialOmega} g(c + epsilonphi) mathrm{d}^2 r
                        end{align}

                        which can be expanded to first order in $epsilon$,
                        begin{align}
                        F[c + epsilon phi] &=
                        int_Omegaleft[
                        f(c, nabla c)
                        + frac{partial f}{partial c}epsilonphi
                        + frac{partial f}{partial (nabla c)}epsilon nabla phi
                        right] mathrm{d}^3 r
                        +
                        oint_{partialOmega} left[
                        g(c)
                        + g'(c)epsilonphi)
                        right] mathrm{d}^2 r
                        ;.
                        end{align}

                        We thus obtain for the first variation
                        begin{align}
                        delta F &=
                        int_Omegaleft[
                        frac{partial f}{partial c}delta c
                        + frac{partial f}{partial (nabla c)} nabla delta c
                        right] mathrm{d}^3 r +
                        oint_{partialOmega} !!! g'(c)delta c , mathrm{d}^2 r
                        end{align}

                        Using integration by parts
                        begin{align}
                        delta F &=
                        int_Omegaleft[
                        frac{partial f}{partial c}delta c
                        - delta cnablafrac{partial f}{partial(nabla c)}
                        right] mathrm{d}^3 r
                        +
                        oint_{partialOmega}left[
                        frac{partial f}{partial (partial_alpha c)} n_alpha delta c
                        + g'(c)delta c
                        right] mathrm{d}^2 r
                        ;,
                        end{align}

                        where $n_alpha$ is the normal vector of the boundary.
                        In particular, the associated Euler-Lagrange equations read
                        begin{align}
                        0 &= frac{partial f}{partial c} - nablafrac{partial f}{partial (nabla c)}
                        \
                        0 &= frac{partial f}{partial(partial_alpha c)} n_alpha + g'(c)
                        label{eqn:stationary_point_boundary}
                        end{align}






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                          The problem can be solved by calculating the first variation of the functional from scratch.
                          Here, the first variation reads $delta F
                          = lim_{epsilon rightarrow 0}(F[c + delta c] - F[c])$
                          with $delta c =epsilon phi$ and $phi$ is a arbitrary function.
                          We thus have
                          begin{align}
                          F[c + epsilon phi] &=
                          int_Omega f(c + epsilonphi, nabla c + epsilon nabla phi) mathrm{d}^3 r
                          +
                          oint_{partialOmega} g(c + epsilonphi) mathrm{d}^2 r
                          end{align}

                          which can be expanded to first order in $epsilon$,
                          begin{align}
                          F[c + epsilon phi] &=
                          int_Omegaleft[
                          f(c, nabla c)
                          + frac{partial f}{partial c}epsilonphi
                          + frac{partial f}{partial (nabla c)}epsilon nabla phi
                          right] mathrm{d}^3 r
                          +
                          oint_{partialOmega} left[
                          g(c)
                          + g'(c)epsilonphi)
                          right] mathrm{d}^2 r
                          ;.
                          end{align}

                          We thus obtain for the first variation
                          begin{align}
                          delta F &=
                          int_Omegaleft[
                          frac{partial f}{partial c}delta c
                          + frac{partial f}{partial (nabla c)} nabla delta c
                          right] mathrm{d}^3 r +
                          oint_{partialOmega} !!! g'(c)delta c , mathrm{d}^2 r
                          end{align}

                          Using integration by parts
                          begin{align}
                          delta F &=
                          int_Omegaleft[
                          frac{partial f}{partial c}delta c
                          - delta cnablafrac{partial f}{partial(nabla c)}
                          right] mathrm{d}^3 r
                          +
                          oint_{partialOmega}left[
                          frac{partial f}{partial (partial_alpha c)} n_alpha delta c
                          + g'(c)delta c
                          right] mathrm{d}^2 r
                          ;,
                          end{align}

                          where $n_alpha$ is the normal vector of the boundary.
                          In particular, the associated Euler-Lagrange equations read
                          begin{align}
                          0 &= frac{partial f}{partial c} - nablafrac{partial f}{partial (nabla c)}
                          \
                          0 &= frac{partial f}{partial(partial_alpha c)} n_alpha + g'(c)
                          label{eqn:stationary_point_boundary}
                          end{align}






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                          The problem can be solved by calculating the first variation of the functional from scratch.
                          Here, the first variation reads $delta F
                          = lim_{epsilon rightarrow 0}(F[c + delta c] - F[c])$
                          with $delta c =epsilon phi$ and $phi$ is a arbitrary function.
                          We thus have
                          begin{align}
                          F[c + epsilon phi] &=
                          int_Omega f(c + epsilonphi, nabla c + epsilon nabla phi) mathrm{d}^3 r
                          +
                          oint_{partialOmega} g(c + epsilonphi) mathrm{d}^2 r
                          end{align}

                          which can be expanded to first order in $epsilon$,
                          begin{align}
                          F[c + epsilon phi] &=
                          int_Omegaleft[
                          f(c, nabla c)
                          + frac{partial f}{partial c}epsilonphi
                          + frac{partial f}{partial (nabla c)}epsilon nabla phi
                          right] mathrm{d}^3 r
                          +
                          oint_{partialOmega} left[
                          g(c)
                          + g'(c)epsilonphi)
                          right] mathrm{d}^2 r
                          ;.
                          end{align}

                          We thus obtain for the first variation
                          begin{align}
                          delta F &=
                          int_Omegaleft[
                          frac{partial f}{partial c}delta c
                          + frac{partial f}{partial (nabla c)} nabla delta c
                          right] mathrm{d}^3 r +
                          oint_{partialOmega} !!! g'(c)delta c , mathrm{d}^2 r
                          end{align}

                          Using integration by parts
                          begin{align}
                          delta F &=
                          int_Omegaleft[
                          frac{partial f}{partial c}delta c
                          - delta cnablafrac{partial f}{partial(nabla c)}
                          right] mathrm{d}^3 r
                          +
                          oint_{partialOmega}left[
                          frac{partial f}{partial (partial_alpha c)} n_alpha delta c
                          + g'(c)delta c
                          right] mathrm{d}^2 r
                          ;,
                          end{align}

                          where $n_alpha$ is the normal vector of the boundary.
                          In particular, the associated Euler-Lagrange equations read
                          begin{align}
                          0 &= frac{partial f}{partial c} - nablafrac{partial f}{partial (nabla c)}
                          \
                          0 &= frac{partial f}{partial(partial_alpha c)} n_alpha + g'(c)
                          label{eqn:stationary_point_boundary}
                          end{align}







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