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if triangle ABC has incenter I how is it possible to show the circumcenter of triangle BIC lies on the circumcircle of triangle ABC?



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    Angle chase. Extend AI to meet the circumcircle at D, the midpoint of arc BC, as in your diagram. Chase the angle DBC and hence DBI and BID, Similarly switch B and C.
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if triangle ABC has incenter I how is it possible to show the circumcenter of triangle BIC lies on the circumcircle of triangle ABC?



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D is the circumcenter of BIC










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    Angle chase. Extend AI to meet the circumcircle at D, the midpoint of arc BC, as in your diagram. Chase the angle DBC and hence DBI and BID, Similarly switch B and C.
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if triangle ABC has incenter I how is it possible to show the circumcenter of triangle BIC lies on the circumcircle of triangle ABC?



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D is the circumcenter of BIC










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if triangle ABC has incenter I how is it possible to show the circumcenter of triangle BIC lies on the circumcircle of triangle ABC?



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D is the circumcenter of BIC







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    Angle chase. Extend AI to meet the circumcircle at D, the midpoint of arc BC, as in your diagram. Chase the angle DBC and hence DBI and BID, Similarly switch B and C.
    $endgroup$
    – user10354138
    Jan 15 at 0:27


















  • $begingroup$
    Angle chase. Extend AI to meet the circumcircle at D, the midpoint of arc BC, as in your diagram. Chase the angle DBC and hence DBI and BID, Similarly switch B and C.
    $endgroup$
    – user10354138
    Jan 15 at 0:27
















$begingroup$
Angle chase. Extend AI to meet the circumcircle at D, the midpoint of arc BC, as in your diagram. Chase the angle DBC and hence DBI and BID, Similarly switch B and C.
$endgroup$
– user10354138
Jan 15 at 0:27




$begingroup$
Angle chase. Extend AI to meet the circumcircle at D, the midpoint of arc BC, as in your diagram. Chase the angle DBC and hence DBI and BID, Similarly switch B and C.
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Join $AI$ and extend till it intersects circumcircle.
If possible Ray$AI$ does not intersect $D$ but at $D'$ .
Join $D'B$ and $D'C$ .
By angle chasing,
$angle BID' = angle IBD'$
And
$angle CID' = angle ICD'$.
Therefore, $BD'$ = $ID'$ = $CD'$.
$implies$ $D'$ is circumcentre of $triangle BIC$ .
As given $D$ is circumcentre of $triangle BIC$ .
Contradiction to considerations,
$D$ coincides $D'$.
Hence, proved.






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    Hi, how would I go about angle chasing to prove ∠BID′=∠IBD′ And ∠CID′=∠ICD'
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    Let $angle AIB=x$and $angle ABI=y$. $angle BID'=x+y$ . $angle CBI=y$ and $angle IBD'=x $ as $square ABCD'$ is cyclic. Thus $angle BID'=angle IBD'= x+y$. Repeat the process and get $angle CID'=angle ICD'$.
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In the standard notation $$measuredangle BIC=180^{circ}-frac{beta}{2}-frac{gamma}{2}=180^{circ}-frac{180^{circ}-alpha}{2}=90^{circ}+frac{alpha}{2},$$ which says that in the circumcircle of $Delta BIC$ the arc $BC$ is equal to $180^{circ}+alpha$.



Thus the arc $BIC$ is $$360^{circ}-left(180^{circ}+alpharight)=180^{circ}-alpha$$
and since $$measuredangle BDC+measuredangle BAC=180^{circ},$$we obtain that the circumcenter of $Delta BIC$ is placed on the circumcircle of $Delta ABC.$






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    @user604720 They are angles of the triangle. $measuredangle BAC=alpha$, $measuredangle ABC=beta$ and $measuredangle ACB=gamma.$
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Join $AI$ and extend till it intersects circumcircle.
If possible Ray$AI$ does not intersect $D$ but at $D'$ .
Join $D'B$ and $D'C$ .
By angle chasing,
$angle BID' = angle IBD'$
And
$angle CID' = angle ICD'$.
Therefore, $BD'$ = $ID'$ = $CD'$.
$implies$ $D'$ is circumcentre of $triangle BIC$ .
As given $D$ is circumcentre of $triangle BIC$ .
Contradiction to considerations,
$D$ coincides $D'$.
Hence, proved.






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    Hi, how would I go about angle chasing to prove ∠BID′=∠IBD′ And ∠CID′=∠ICD'
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    Let $angle AIB=x$and $angle ABI=y$. $angle BID'=x+y$ . $angle CBI=y$ and $angle IBD'=x $ as $square ABCD'$ is cyclic. Thus $angle BID'=angle IBD'= x+y$. Repeat the process and get $angle CID'=angle ICD'$.
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    Jan 22 at 10:00


















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$begingroup$

Join $AI$ and extend till it intersects circumcircle.
If possible Ray$AI$ does not intersect $D$ but at $D'$ .
Join $D'B$ and $D'C$ .
By angle chasing,
$angle BID' = angle IBD'$
And
$angle CID' = angle ICD'$.
Therefore, $BD'$ = $ID'$ = $CD'$.
$implies$ $D'$ is circumcentre of $triangle BIC$ .
As given $D$ is circumcentre of $triangle BIC$ .
Contradiction to considerations,
$D$ coincides $D'$.
Hence, proved.






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  • $begingroup$
    Hi, how would I go about angle chasing to prove ∠BID′=∠IBD′ And ∠CID′=∠ICD'
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    Jan 20 at 19:13










  • $begingroup$
    Let $angle AIB=x$and $angle ABI=y$. $angle BID'=x+y$ . $angle CBI=y$ and $angle IBD'=x $ as $square ABCD'$ is cyclic. Thus $angle BID'=angle IBD'= x+y$. Repeat the process and get $angle CID'=angle ICD'$.
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    Jan 22 at 10:00
















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$begingroup$

Join $AI$ and extend till it intersects circumcircle.
If possible Ray$AI$ does not intersect $D$ but at $D'$ .
Join $D'B$ and $D'C$ .
By angle chasing,
$angle BID' = angle IBD'$
And
$angle CID' = angle ICD'$.
Therefore, $BD'$ = $ID'$ = $CD'$.
$implies$ $D'$ is circumcentre of $triangle BIC$ .
As given $D$ is circumcentre of $triangle BIC$ .
Contradiction to considerations,
$D$ coincides $D'$.
Hence, proved.






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$endgroup$



Join $AI$ and extend till it intersects circumcircle.
If possible Ray$AI$ does not intersect $D$ but at $D'$ .
Join $D'B$ and $D'C$ .
By angle chasing,
$angle BID' = angle IBD'$
And
$angle CID' = angle ICD'$.
Therefore, $BD'$ = $ID'$ = $CD'$.
$implies$ $D'$ is circumcentre of $triangle BIC$ .
As given $D$ is circumcentre of $triangle BIC$ .
Contradiction to considerations,
$D$ coincides $D'$.
Hence, proved.







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    Hi, how would I go about angle chasing to prove ∠BID′=∠IBD′ And ∠CID′=∠ICD'
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    – user604720
    Jan 20 at 19:13










  • $begingroup$
    Let $angle AIB=x$and $angle ABI=y$. $angle BID'=x+y$ . $angle CBI=y$ and $angle IBD'=x $ as $square ABCD'$ is cyclic. Thus $angle BID'=angle IBD'= x+y$. Repeat the process and get $angle CID'=angle ICD'$.
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  • $begingroup$
    Hi, how would I go about angle chasing to prove ∠BID′=∠IBD′ And ∠CID′=∠ICD'
    $endgroup$
    – user604720
    Jan 20 at 19:13










  • $begingroup$
    Let $angle AIB=x$and $angle ABI=y$. $angle BID'=x+y$ . $angle CBI=y$ and $angle IBD'=x $ as $square ABCD'$ is cyclic. Thus $angle BID'=angle IBD'= x+y$. Repeat the process and get $angle CID'=angle ICD'$.
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    – RB MCPE
    Jan 22 at 10:00


















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Hi, how would I go about angle chasing to prove ∠BID′=∠IBD′ And ∠CID′=∠ICD'
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$begingroup$
Hi, how would I go about angle chasing to prove ∠BID′=∠IBD′ And ∠CID′=∠ICD'
$endgroup$
– user604720
Jan 20 at 19:13












$begingroup$
Let $angle AIB=x$and $angle ABI=y$. $angle BID'=x+y$ . $angle CBI=y$ and $angle IBD'=x $ as $square ABCD'$ is cyclic. Thus $angle BID'=angle IBD'= x+y$. Repeat the process and get $angle CID'=angle ICD'$.
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– RB MCPE
Jan 22 at 10:00






$begingroup$
Let $angle AIB=x$and $angle ABI=y$. $angle BID'=x+y$ . $angle CBI=y$ and $angle IBD'=x $ as $square ABCD'$ is cyclic. Thus $angle BID'=angle IBD'= x+y$. Repeat the process and get $angle CID'=angle ICD'$.
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– RB MCPE
Jan 22 at 10:00













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In the standard notation $$measuredangle BIC=180^{circ}-frac{beta}{2}-frac{gamma}{2}=180^{circ}-frac{180^{circ}-alpha}{2}=90^{circ}+frac{alpha}{2},$$ which says that in the circumcircle of $Delta BIC$ the arc $BC$ is equal to $180^{circ}+alpha$.



Thus the arc $BIC$ is $$360^{circ}-left(180^{circ}+alpharight)=180^{circ}-alpha$$
and since $$measuredangle BDC+measuredangle BAC=180^{circ},$$we obtain that the circumcenter of $Delta BIC$ is placed on the circumcircle of $Delta ABC.$






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    hi, quick question, what do β,γ, and α represent?
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    @user604720 They are angles of the triangle. $measuredangle BAC=alpha$, $measuredangle ABC=beta$ and $measuredangle ACB=gamma.$
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    – Michael Rozenberg
    Jan 16 at 6:00


















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$begingroup$

In the standard notation $$measuredangle BIC=180^{circ}-frac{beta}{2}-frac{gamma}{2}=180^{circ}-frac{180^{circ}-alpha}{2}=90^{circ}+frac{alpha}{2},$$ which says that in the circumcircle of $Delta BIC$ the arc $BC$ is equal to $180^{circ}+alpha$.



Thus the arc $BIC$ is $$360^{circ}-left(180^{circ}+alpharight)=180^{circ}-alpha$$
and since $$measuredangle BDC+measuredangle BAC=180^{circ},$$we obtain that the circumcenter of $Delta BIC$ is placed on the circumcircle of $Delta ABC.$






share|cite|improve this answer









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  • $begingroup$
    hi, quick question, what do β,γ, and α represent?
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    – user604720
    Jan 16 at 1:01










  • $begingroup$
    @user604720 They are angles of the triangle. $measuredangle BAC=alpha$, $measuredangle ABC=beta$ and $measuredangle ACB=gamma.$
    $endgroup$
    – Michael Rozenberg
    Jan 16 at 6:00
















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In the standard notation $$measuredangle BIC=180^{circ}-frac{beta}{2}-frac{gamma}{2}=180^{circ}-frac{180^{circ}-alpha}{2}=90^{circ}+frac{alpha}{2},$$ which says that in the circumcircle of $Delta BIC$ the arc $BC$ is equal to $180^{circ}+alpha$.



Thus the arc $BIC$ is $$360^{circ}-left(180^{circ}+alpharight)=180^{circ}-alpha$$
and since $$measuredangle BDC+measuredangle BAC=180^{circ},$$we obtain that the circumcenter of $Delta BIC$ is placed on the circumcircle of $Delta ABC.$






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In the standard notation $$measuredangle BIC=180^{circ}-frac{beta}{2}-frac{gamma}{2}=180^{circ}-frac{180^{circ}-alpha}{2}=90^{circ}+frac{alpha}{2},$$ which says that in the circumcircle of $Delta BIC$ the arc $BC$ is equal to $180^{circ}+alpha$.



Thus the arc $BIC$ is $$360^{circ}-left(180^{circ}+alpharight)=180^{circ}-alpha$$
and since $$measuredangle BDC+measuredangle BAC=180^{circ},$$we obtain that the circumcenter of $Delta BIC$ is placed on the circumcircle of $Delta ABC.$







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    hi, quick question, what do β,γ, and α represent?
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    @user604720 They are angles of the triangle. $measuredangle BAC=alpha$, $measuredangle ABC=beta$ and $measuredangle ACB=gamma.$
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    – Michael Rozenberg
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  • $begingroup$
    hi, quick question, what do β,γ, and α represent?
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    Jan 16 at 1:01










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    @user604720 They are angles of the triangle. $measuredangle BAC=alpha$, $measuredangle ABC=beta$ and $measuredangle ACB=gamma.$
    $endgroup$
    – Michael Rozenberg
    Jan 16 at 6:00


















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hi, quick question, what do β,γ, and α represent?
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$begingroup$
hi, quick question, what do β,γ, and α represent?
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$begingroup$
@user604720 They are angles of the triangle. $measuredangle BAC=alpha$, $measuredangle ABC=beta$ and $measuredangle ACB=gamma.$
$endgroup$
– Michael Rozenberg
Jan 16 at 6:00






$begingroup$
@user604720 They are angles of the triangle. $measuredangle BAC=alpha$, $measuredangle ABC=beta$ and $measuredangle ACB=gamma.$
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