Euclidean division exercise
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I faced the following problem in a previous abstract algebra session in my university:
Let $omega$ be a non-zero real number and n be a non-zero natural integer both supposed to be fixed. Calculate the remainder of the Euclidean division of the polynomial $(cos{omega}+Xsin{omega}) ^n$ by $X^2 +1$.
I tried to expand $(cos{omega}+Xsin{omega}) ^n$ but it didn't look helpful for me. Can anyone help?
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I faced the following problem in a previous abstract algebra session in my university:
Let $omega$ be a non-zero real number and n be a non-zero natural integer both supposed to be fixed. Calculate the remainder of the Euclidean division of the polynomial $(cos{omega}+Xsin{omega}) ^n$ by $X^2 +1$.
I tried to expand $(cos{omega}+Xsin{omega}) ^n$ but it didn't look helpful for me. Can anyone help?
abstract-algebra polynomials
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I faced the following problem in a previous abstract algebra session in my university:
Let $omega$ be a non-zero real number and n be a non-zero natural integer both supposed to be fixed. Calculate the remainder of the Euclidean division of the polynomial $(cos{omega}+Xsin{omega}) ^n$ by $X^2 +1$.
I tried to expand $(cos{omega}+Xsin{omega}) ^n$ but it didn't look helpful for me. Can anyone help?
abstract-algebra polynomials
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I faced the following problem in a previous abstract algebra session in my university:
Let $omega$ be a non-zero real number and n be a non-zero natural integer both supposed to be fixed. Calculate the remainder of the Euclidean division of the polynomial $(cos{omega}+Xsin{omega}) ^n$ by $X^2 +1$.
I tried to expand $(cos{omega}+Xsin{omega}) ^n$ but it didn't look helpful for me. Can anyone help?
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Write the reminder $aX+b$. You have
$$P(X) = (cos omega + sinomega X)^n =Q(X)(X^2+1) +aX+b.$$
Substitute in this equation $X$ by $i$. You get
$$e^{in omega} = ai+b.$$ Substitute now $X$ by $-i$. You get
$$e^{-in omega} = -ai+b$$
Solving in $a,b$ you finally get $b =cos nomega$ and $a = sin nomega$.
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This is essentially the same answer as mathcounterexamples.net's answer, but it's a slightly different explanation and thought process, which seems to me to be slightly more natural (though I did upvote mce.net's answer). Hence I'll give my thought process on seeing this question.
We can calculate the remainder on division by a polynomial $fin k[x]$ by working in the ring $k[x]/(f)$, since the remainder of a polynomial $a$ on division by $f$ is the unique representative of $a$ in $k[x]/(f)$ of degree less than the degree of $f$.
Then recognize that $Bbb{R}[X]/(X^2+1)cong Bbb{C}$ via $Xmapsto i$.
Thus $(cos omega +Xsin omega)^nmapsto (e^{iomega})^n=e^{iomega n} = cos(nomega) + i sin(nomega)$. Thus the remainder on division by $X^2+1$ must be $cos(nomega)+Xsin(nomega)$.
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Note that algebraic concerns alone cannot tell you whether you should use $X mapsto mathrm{i}$ or $X mapsto -mathrm{i}$ (since algebra doesn't distinguish Galois conjugates). mathcounterexamples.net does both.
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– Eric Towers
Dec 31 '18 at 3:38
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@EricTowers That's what confuses me so much about mathcounterexamples.net's answer. There's absolutely no reason to do both, since it doesn't matter which isomorphism with $Bbb{C}$ you choose. You'll get the same answer either way.
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– jgon
Dec 31 '18 at 3:57
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Since algebra can't tell the difference, both specializations give (simultaneously) valid equations. We get an equation for $b+ mathrm{i} a$ and its conjugate $b - mathrm{i} a$, exactly as we should since the action taking $mathrm{i}$ to $-mathrm{i}$ is conjugation. (If the LHS had been real, the two equations would be redundant, again as expected, since $mathbb{R}$ is fixed by this action.)
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– Eric Towers
Dec 31 '18 at 4:05
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@EricTowers, but you don't need both, since we've already fixed an isomorphism to $Bbb{C}$. The fact that $b+ia=e^{inomega}$ is already enough to figure out what $a$ and $b$ are, since we know how to expand $e^{inomega}$ in the $1,i$ basis for $Bbb{C}$.
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– jgon
Dec 31 '18 at 4:08
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... or you've had $sin theta = frac{mathrm{e}^{mathrm{i}theta} - mathrm{e}^{-mathrm{i}theta}}{2mathrm{i}}$ beaten into you so hard that when you try both substitutions in your head you realize you can immediately solve for $a$ and $b$ in sines and cosines entirely algebraically, that is, without having to know an additional obscure analysis fact: Euler's identity. Notice: I'm not claiming mathcounterexample.net's answer is better or worse than yours. I'm only responding to your line "since frankly I don't follow several aspects ..." with how my head justified his manipulations.
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Write the reminder $aX+b$. You have
$$P(X) = (cos omega + sinomega X)^n =Q(X)(X^2+1) +aX+b.$$
Substitute in this equation $X$ by $i$. You get
$$e^{in omega} = ai+b.$$ Substitute now $X$ by $-i$. You get
$$e^{-in omega} = -ai+b$$
Solving in $a,b$ you finally get $b =cos nomega$ and $a = sin nomega$.
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$begingroup$
Write the reminder $aX+b$. You have
$$P(X) = (cos omega + sinomega X)^n =Q(X)(X^2+1) +aX+b.$$
Substitute in this equation $X$ by $i$. You get
$$e^{in omega} = ai+b.$$ Substitute now $X$ by $-i$. You get
$$e^{-in omega} = -ai+b$$
Solving in $a,b$ you finally get $b =cos nomega$ and $a = sin nomega$.
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add a comment |
$begingroup$
Write the reminder $aX+b$. You have
$$P(X) = (cos omega + sinomega X)^n =Q(X)(X^2+1) +aX+b.$$
Substitute in this equation $X$ by $i$. You get
$$e^{in omega} = ai+b.$$ Substitute now $X$ by $-i$. You get
$$e^{-in omega} = -ai+b$$
Solving in $a,b$ you finally get $b =cos nomega$ and $a = sin nomega$.
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Write the reminder $aX+b$. You have
$$P(X) = (cos omega + sinomega X)^n =Q(X)(X^2+1) +aX+b.$$
Substitute in this equation $X$ by $i$. You get
$$e^{in omega} = ai+b.$$ Substitute now $X$ by $-i$. You get
$$e^{-in omega} = -ai+b$$
Solving in $a,b$ you finally get $b =cos nomega$ and $a = sin nomega$.
answered Dec 30 '18 at 21:53
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This is essentially the same answer as mathcounterexamples.net's answer, but it's a slightly different explanation and thought process, which seems to me to be slightly more natural (though I did upvote mce.net's answer). Hence I'll give my thought process on seeing this question.
We can calculate the remainder on division by a polynomial $fin k[x]$ by working in the ring $k[x]/(f)$, since the remainder of a polynomial $a$ on division by $f$ is the unique representative of $a$ in $k[x]/(f)$ of degree less than the degree of $f$.
Then recognize that $Bbb{R}[X]/(X^2+1)cong Bbb{C}$ via $Xmapsto i$.
Thus $(cos omega +Xsin omega)^nmapsto (e^{iomega})^n=e^{iomega n} = cos(nomega) + i sin(nomega)$. Thus the remainder on division by $X^2+1$ must be $cos(nomega)+Xsin(nomega)$.
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$begingroup$
Note that algebraic concerns alone cannot tell you whether you should use $X mapsto mathrm{i}$ or $X mapsto -mathrm{i}$ (since algebra doesn't distinguish Galois conjugates). mathcounterexamples.net does both.
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– Eric Towers
Dec 31 '18 at 3:38
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@EricTowers That's what confuses me so much about mathcounterexamples.net's answer. There's absolutely no reason to do both, since it doesn't matter which isomorphism with $Bbb{C}$ you choose. You'll get the same answer either way.
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– jgon
Dec 31 '18 at 3:57
$begingroup$
Since algebra can't tell the difference, both specializations give (simultaneously) valid equations. We get an equation for $b+ mathrm{i} a$ and its conjugate $b - mathrm{i} a$, exactly as we should since the action taking $mathrm{i}$ to $-mathrm{i}$ is conjugation. (If the LHS had been real, the two equations would be redundant, again as expected, since $mathbb{R}$ is fixed by this action.)
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– Eric Towers
Dec 31 '18 at 4:05
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@EricTowers, but you don't need both, since we've already fixed an isomorphism to $Bbb{C}$. The fact that $b+ia=e^{inomega}$ is already enough to figure out what $a$ and $b$ are, since we know how to expand $e^{inomega}$ in the $1,i$ basis for $Bbb{C}$.
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– jgon
Dec 31 '18 at 4:08
$begingroup$
... or you've had $sin theta = frac{mathrm{e}^{mathrm{i}theta} - mathrm{e}^{-mathrm{i}theta}}{2mathrm{i}}$ beaten into you so hard that when you try both substitutions in your head you realize you can immediately solve for $a$ and $b$ in sines and cosines entirely algebraically, that is, without having to know an additional obscure analysis fact: Euler's identity. Notice: I'm not claiming mathcounterexample.net's answer is better or worse than yours. I'm only responding to your line "since frankly I don't follow several aspects ..." with how my head justified his manipulations.
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– Eric Towers
Dec 31 '18 at 4:14
|
show 5 more comments
$begingroup$
This is essentially the same answer as mathcounterexamples.net's answer, but it's a slightly different explanation and thought process, which seems to me to be slightly more natural (though I did upvote mce.net's answer). Hence I'll give my thought process on seeing this question.
We can calculate the remainder on division by a polynomial $fin k[x]$ by working in the ring $k[x]/(f)$, since the remainder of a polynomial $a$ on division by $f$ is the unique representative of $a$ in $k[x]/(f)$ of degree less than the degree of $f$.
Then recognize that $Bbb{R}[X]/(X^2+1)cong Bbb{C}$ via $Xmapsto i$.
Thus $(cos omega +Xsin omega)^nmapsto (e^{iomega})^n=e^{iomega n} = cos(nomega) + i sin(nomega)$. Thus the remainder on division by $X^2+1$ must be $cos(nomega)+Xsin(nomega)$.
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
Note that algebraic concerns alone cannot tell you whether you should use $X mapsto mathrm{i}$ or $X mapsto -mathrm{i}$ (since algebra doesn't distinguish Galois conjugates). mathcounterexamples.net does both.
$endgroup$
– Eric Towers
Dec 31 '18 at 3:38
$begingroup$
@EricTowers That's what confuses me so much about mathcounterexamples.net's answer. There's absolutely no reason to do both, since it doesn't matter which isomorphism with $Bbb{C}$ you choose. You'll get the same answer either way.
$endgroup$
– jgon
Dec 31 '18 at 3:57
$begingroup$
Since algebra can't tell the difference, both specializations give (simultaneously) valid equations. We get an equation for $b+ mathrm{i} a$ and its conjugate $b - mathrm{i} a$, exactly as we should since the action taking $mathrm{i}$ to $-mathrm{i}$ is conjugation. (If the LHS had been real, the two equations would be redundant, again as expected, since $mathbb{R}$ is fixed by this action.)
$endgroup$
– Eric Towers
Dec 31 '18 at 4:05
$begingroup$
@EricTowers, but you don't need both, since we've already fixed an isomorphism to $Bbb{C}$. The fact that $b+ia=e^{inomega}$ is already enough to figure out what $a$ and $b$ are, since we know how to expand $e^{inomega}$ in the $1,i$ basis for $Bbb{C}$.
$endgroup$
– jgon
Dec 31 '18 at 4:08
$begingroup$
... or you've had $sin theta = frac{mathrm{e}^{mathrm{i}theta} - mathrm{e}^{-mathrm{i}theta}}{2mathrm{i}}$ beaten into you so hard that when you try both substitutions in your head you realize you can immediately solve for $a$ and $b$ in sines and cosines entirely algebraically, that is, without having to know an additional obscure analysis fact: Euler's identity. Notice: I'm not claiming mathcounterexample.net's answer is better or worse than yours. I'm only responding to your line "since frankly I don't follow several aspects ..." with how my head justified his manipulations.
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– Eric Towers
Dec 31 '18 at 4:14
|
show 5 more comments
$begingroup$
This is essentially the same answer as mathcounterexamples.net's answer, but it's a slightly different explanation and thought process, which seems to me to be slightly more natural (though I did upvote mce.net's answer). Hence I'll give my thought process on seeing this question.
We can calculate the remainder on division by a polynomial $fin k[x]$ by working in the ring $k[x]/(f)$, since the remainder of a polynomial $a$ on division by $f$ is the unique representative of $a$ in $k[x]/(f)$ of degree less than the degree of $f$.
Then recognize that $Bbb{R}[X]/(X^2+1)cong Bbb{C}$ via $Xmapsto i$.
Thus $(cos omega +Xsin omega)^nmapsto (e^{iomega})^n=e^{iomega n} = cos(nomega) + i sin(nomega)$. Thus the remainder on division by $X^2+1$ must be $cos(nomega)+Xsin(nomega)$.
$endgroup$
This is essentially the same answer as mathcounterexamples.net's answer, but it's a slightly different explanation and thought process, which seems to me to be slightly more natural (though I did upvote mce.net's answer). Hence I'll give my thought process on seeing this question.
We can calculate the remainder on division by a polynomial $fin k[x]$ by working in the ring $k[x]/(f)$, since the remainder of a polynomial $a$ on division by $f$ is the unique representative of $a$ in $k[x]/(f)$ of degree less than the degree of $f$.
Then recognize that $Bbb{R}[X]/(X^2+1)cong Bbb{C}$ via $Xmapsto i$.
Thus $(cos omega +Xsin omega)^nmapsto (e^{iomega})^n=e^{iomega n} = cos(nomega) + i sin(nomega)$. Thus the remainder on division by $X^2+1$ must be $cos(nomega)+Xsin(nomega)$.
edited Dec 31 '18 at 4:28
answered Dec 30 '18 at 22:33
jgonjgon
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Note that algebraic concerns alone cannot tell you whether you should use $X mapsto mathrm{i}$ or $X mapsto -mathrm{i}$ (since algebra doesn't distinguish Galois conjugates). mathcounterexamples.net does both.
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– Eric Towers
Dec 31 '18 at 3:38
$begingroup$
@EricTowers That's what confuses me so much about mathcounterexamples.net's answer. There's absolutely no reason to do both, since it doesn't matter which isomorphism with $Bbb{C}$ you choose. You'll get the same answer either way.
$endgroup$
– jgon
Dec 31 '18 at 3:57
$begingroup$
Since algebra can't tell the difference, both specializations give (simultaneously) valid equations. We get an equation for $b+ mathrm{i} a$ and its conjugate $b - mathrm{i} a$, exactly as we should since the action taking $mathrm{i}$ to $-mathrm{i}$ is conjugation. (If the LHS had been real, the two equations would be redundant, again as expected, since $mathbb{R}$ is fixed by this action.)
$endgroup$
– Eric Towers
Dec 31 '18 at 4:05
$begingroup$
@EricTowers, but you don't need both, since we've already fixed an isomorphism to $Bbb{C}$. The fact that $b+ia=e^{inomega}$ is already enough to figure out what $a$ and $b$ are, since we know how to expand $e^{inomega}$ in the $1,i$ basis for $Bbb{C}$.
$endgroup$
– jgon
Dec 31 '18 at 4:08
$begingroup$
... or you've had $sin theta = frac{mathrm{e}^{mathrm{i}theta} - mathrm{e}^{-mathrm{i}theta}}{2mathrm{i}}$ beaten into you so hard that when you try both substitutions in your head you realize you can immediately solve for $a$ and $b$ in sines and cosines entirely algebraically, that is, without having to know an additional obscure analysis fact: Euler's identity. Notice: I'm not claiming mathcounterexample.net's answer is better or worse than yours. I'm only responding to your line "since frankly I don't follow several aspects ..." with how my head justified his manipulations.
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– Eric Towers
Dec 31 '18 at 4:14
|
show 5 more comments
$begingroup$
Note that algebraic concerns alone cannot tell you whether you should use $X mapsto mathrm{i}$ or $X mapsto -mathrm{i}$ (since algebra doesn't distinguish Galois conjugates). mathcounterexamples.net does both.
$endgroup$
– Eric Towers
Dec 31 '18 at 3:38
$begingroup$
@EricTowers That's what confuses me so much about mathcounterexamples.net's answer. There's absolutely no reason to do both, since it doesn't matter which isomorphism with $Bbb{C}$ you choose. You'll get the same answer either way.
$endgroup$
– jgon
Dec 31 '18 at 3:57
$begingroup$
Since algebra can't tell the difference, both specializations give (simultaneously) valid equations. We get an equation for $b+ mathrm{i} a$ and its conjugate $b - mathrm{i} a$, exactly as we should since the action taking $mathrm{i}$ to $-mathrm{i}$ is conjugation. (If the LHS had been real, the two equations would be redundant, again as expected, since $mathbb{R}$ is fixed by this action.)
$endgroup$
– Eric Towers
Dec 31 '18 at 4:05
$begingroup$
@EricTowers, but you don't need both, since we've already fixed an isomorphism to $Bbb{C}$. The fact that $b+ia=e^{inomega}$ is already enough to figure out what $a$ and $b$ are, since we know how to expand $e^{inomega}$ in the $1,i$ basis for $Bbb{C}$.
$endgroup$
– jgon
Dec 31 '18 at 4:08
$begingroup$
... or you've had $sin theta = frac{mathrm{e}^{mathrm{i}theta} - mathrm{e}^{-mathrm{i}theta}}{2mathrm{i}}$ beaten into you so hard that when you try both substitutions in your head you realize you can immediately solve for $a$ and $b$ in sines and cosines entirely algebraically, that is, without having to know an additional obscure analysis fact: Euler's identity. Notice: I'm not claiming mathcounterexample.net's answer is better or worse than yours. I'm only responding to your line "since frankly I don't follow several aspects ..." with how my head justified his manipulations.
$endgroup$
– Eric Towers
Dec 31 '18 at 4:14
$begingroup$
Note that algebraic concerns alone cannot tell you whether you should use $X mapsto mathrm{i}$ or $X mapsto -mathrm{i}$ (since algebra doesn't distinguish Galois conjugates). mathcounterexamples.net does both.
$endgroup$
– Eric Towers
Dec 31 '18 at 3:38
$begingroup$
Note that algebraic concerns alone cannot tell you whether you should use $X mapsto mathrm{i}$ or $X mapsto -mathrm{i}$ (since algebra doesn't distinguish Galois conjugates). mathcounterexamples.net does both.
$endgroup$
– Eric Towers
Dec 31 '18 at 3:38
$begingroup$
@EricTowers That's what confuses me so much about mathcounterexamples.net's answer. There's absolutely no reason to do both, since it doesn't matter which isomorphism with $Bbb{C}$ you choose. You'll get the same answer either way.
$endgroup$
– jgon
Dec 31 '18 at 3:57
$begingroup$
@EricTowers That's what confuses me so much about mathcounterexamples.net's answer. There's absolutely no reason to do both, since it doesn't matter which isomorphism with $Bbb{C}$ you choose. You'll get the same answer either way.
$endgroup$
– jgon
Dec 31 '18 at 3:57
$begingroup$
Since algebra can't tell the difference, both specializations give (simultaneously) valid equations. We get an equation for $b+ mathrm{i} a$ and its conjugate $b - mathrm{i} a$, exactly as we should since the action taking $mathrm{i}$ to $-mathrm{i}$ is conjugation. (If the LHS had been real, the two equations would be redundant, again as expected, since $mathbb{R}$ is fixed by this action.)
$endgroup$
– Eric Towers
Dec 31 '18 at 4:05
$begingroup$
Since algebra can't tell the difference, both specializations give (simultaneously) valid equations. We get an equation for $b+ mathrm{i} a$ and its conjugate $b - mathrm{i} a$, exactly as we should since the action taking $mathrm{i}$ to $-mathrm{i}$ is conjugation. (If the LHS had been real, the two equations would be redundant, again as expected, since $mathbb{R}$ is fixed by this action.)
$endgroup$
– Eric Towers
Dec 31 '18 at 4:05
$begingroup$
@EricTowers, but you don't need both, since we've already fixed an isomorphism to $Bbb{C}$. The fact that $b+ia=e^{inomega}$ is already enough to figure out what $a$ and $b$ are, since we know how to expand $e^{inomega}$ in the $1,i$ basis for $Bbb{C}$.
$endgroup$
– jgon
Dec 31 '18 at 4:08
$begingroup$
@EricTowers, but you don't need both, since we've already fixed an isomorphism to $Bbb{C}$. The fact that $b+ia=e^{inomega}$ is already enough to figure out what $a$ and $b$ are, since we know how to expand $e^{inomega}$ in the $1,i$ basis for $Bbb{C}$.
$endgroup$
– jgon
Dec 31 '18 at 4:08
$begingroup$
... or you've had $sin theta = frac{mathrm{e}^{mathrm{i}theta} - mathrm{e}^{-mathrm{i}theta}}{2mathrm{i}}$ beaten into you so hard that when you try both substitutions in your head you realize you can immediately solve for $a$ and $b$ in sines and cosines entirely algebraically, that is, without having to know an additional obscure analysis fact: Euler's identity. Notice: I'm not claiming mathcounterexample.net's answer is better or worse than yours. I'm only responding to your line "since frankly I don't follow several aspects ..." with how my head justified his manipulations.
$endgroup$
– Eric Towers
Dec 31 '18 at 4:14
$begingroup$
... or you've had $sin theta = frac{mathrm{e}^{mathrm{i}theta} - mathrm{e}^{-mathrm{i}theta}}{2mathrm{i}}$ beaten into you so hard that when you try both substitutions in your head you realize you can immediately solve for $a$ and $b$ in sines and cosines entirely algebraically, that is, without having to know an additional obscure analysis fact: Euler's identity. Notice: I'm not claiming mathcounterexample.net's answer is better or worse than yours. I'm only responding to your line "since frankly I don't follow several aspects ..." with how my head justified his manipulations.
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– Eric Towers
Dec 31 '18 at 4:14
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